Over 2lbs from 400w in normal time frame, need a test pilot.

dannyking

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Ill check it out. What ever about the science behind it I personally think it may be achievable with a 400w. 10 grms a plant aint much at all. Throw in 2 weeks veg and your sorted. Any other opinions???? Advice???
 

OregonMeds

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Ill check it out. What ever about the science behind it I personally think it may be achievable with a 400w. 10 grms a plant aint much at all. Throw in 2 weeks veg and your sorted. Any other opinions???? Advice???
No veg time whatsoever, would not work with veg time. It's a very fine line between balancing the crowding, keeping the light minimal, giving up big yield per plant and fat buds but coming out ahead for doing things very different.

Walking on water...
 

dannyking

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I know what your saying but if I'm to do this it will be from seed so I think just to get some roots established first, even just a minor amount.
 

SlikWiLL13

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i personaly have tried 50 in a 4x4 under a 1000W and was very dissapointed with individual plant yield. just because you can fit that many blocks into the tray does not mean you can fit that many plants. even witn no veg they will be packed too tight.
 

epixbud

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in the See More Buds second room, 300 plants, 100 died from crowding...... and thats with sufient light..... no veg periods ether, once the clones rooted the changed the lights, but did yeild like 5 pounds....
 

Bear*rack Olama

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another thing to take into account is plant spacing.
If you take a space of 6 plants and start using smaller containers with a higher plant count and pack them in wall to wall, youll still end up with about the same amount as the 6 plants provided, perhaps less.
You have to give them room for air to circulate between them so go no more than 4 per square foot no matter what size pots you use for the grow.
 

OregonMeds

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Totally untrue and proven untrue in the link above, you didn't look at it.

There is a point where no matter how crowded and limited on medium they will still put out a little, that is the edge to push, that is the gain in this plan because it works out contrary to everything you've seen before.
 

Bear*rack Olama

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Totally untrue and proven untrue in the link above, you didn't look at it.

There is a point where no matter how crowded and limited on medium they will still put out a little, that is the edge to push, that is the gain in this plan because it works out contrary to everything you've seen before.

I do not disagree with this
There is a point where no matter how crowded and limited on medium they will still put out a little, .
and if a person is wanting to do a sog grow this way that is great.
But my point is a better result can be achieved with just a bit of airflow around those same plants.
I thought this was a general sog thread not one where someone was wanting to go about it in a specific manner, my apologies.
 

OregonMeds

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No apologies needed. Yea this is a specific new way of doing things. An experiment that shows promise is all.
 

Bear*rack Olama

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No apologies needed. Yea this is a specific new way of doing things. An experiment that shows promise is all.
promise it does indeed show.
You can take a clone and flower it right from rooting, it will then stretch out and start to flower, the size it ends @ depends on the strain and how much stretch it has. An idea of yield can be gauged from that.

How many plants are being spoken about being grown in this wall to wall, no space in between manner?
Maybe we should name this method Floor Of Green?
 

OregonMeds

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This is not meant for crops from seed, only crops from clones.

Maybe you could get away with it, but seeds vary too much in growth and with things so close there's little tolerance for differences.
 

Bear*rack Olama

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carpet of green now that would be nice.
And godbud would be good for this...as well as a bunch of other worthy sog strains...(I can see my mtf doing this...she makes a 2 ounce plant sog from a 12 inch clone when spaced per foot....)

But as oregonmeds said, ONLY from clone, seed plants are too irregular.
 

OregonMeds

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Oh and yes I have seen all the seemorebuds video's, I reccomend them all the time. But you can't compare that SOG to this, they had too much light for this to work, and their aero method was probably too efficient and promoted TOO much growth to pack so much and pull of the same grams per watt. These plants will grow more lanky than those for sure and be able to pack tighter than those.


But SeeMoreBuds video's are an amazing resource I reccoment to everyone. It can't be argued, some of those grows are top noth _for sure_ and great benchmarks to compare to.
 

FLoJo

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holy jeebus... 6 lbs from 2400w! that is some serious numbers right there.. better than any flat garden i have seen
 

FLoJo

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that sounds pretty insane.. id like to see it done. that would be at least 5 lbs per 1k.. best ive ever seen was 4lbs per 1k and that was with a serious vertical system doing a wall of green with about 200 plants per light.. i would be interested to say the least
 
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