Owning a hand gun

Bonzi Lighthouse said:

Are you talking about the United States of America here? You STILL have the right to 'keep and bear arms' as long as they are properly registered. This is just plain wrong, there is no "registration" of individuals fire arms on a federal level. The carring of an un licienced weapon is a crime (in most jusistrictions) in and of it self.

and I thought there was a lot of bad plant advise on this board!!!

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You must not have any legally registered firearms (in particluar, handguns)in your household then. Since the Brady bills passing (after President Regan and Brady were shot) obtaining a handgun has become more complicated in that you have to fill out a FEDERAL form and answer several questions truthfully under penalty of perjury (look on the form). Most places will sell you a shotgun or hunting rifle no questions asked or waiting periods. Try to buy a HANDGUN and get ready to fill out that Federal paperwork AND have an FBI background check run. All gun dealers do this, and yes this is America. And nobody said anything about CARRYING an unregistered weapon (that is a both a possession and concealed charge) if you don't have your permits in order.

Goose42-
If you aquire your weapons BEFORE you obtain your Red card, you are clear. Show me the statute (Federal or State) that mandates in writing you surrender your registered weapons after you obtain your Red card, it doesn't exist. As far as 'controlled substances' go, Vicodin, Percoset and Oxycontin are also controlled substances. Plenty of police officers (and others) use them to treat chronic pain. And THEY are supposed to serve the public trust. People just give up their rights so fast these days, no wonder there are few of them reamaining.

Like mac said shotgun is your best bet. some states allow shotguns for home defense.

Macguyver4.2.0,

You are confused on firearms laws:

Buying a handgun from a dealer is no different than buying a shotgun as far as a background search - you have to do the paperwork for either.

There is no such thing as a registered handgun under Federal law, but some states and cities have restrictive laws requiring registration, and imposing bans on certain weapons.

Colorado is an open carry State, so you can carry a visible weapon on your person unless restricted by local law. It is also legal in CO. to carry a loaded handgun in your vehicle as long as it is not in plain sight.

MacGuyver4.2.0 said:

Goose42-
If you aquire your weapons BEFORE you obtain your Red card, you are clear. Show me the statute (Federal or State) that mandates in writing you surrender your registered weapons after you obtain your Red card, it doesn't exist. As far as 'controlled substances' go, Vicodin, Percoset and Oxycontin are also controlled substances. Plenty of police officers (and others) use them to treat chronic pain. And THEY are supposed to serve the public trust. People just give up their rights so fast these days, no wonder there are few of them reamaining.

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agreed, i never claimed they would come take my guns either. I would love to see them try lol. I was however told by the sheriff that my CCW renewal would be automatically denied if I were a registed MMJ patient. on the BATF (federal) form it expressly asks you if u use a controlled substance, to include marijuana. I was just high, not trying to be controversial lol. I think a soccer mom on 2 xanax is 10000X more dangerous than a former military guy (like myself) with a joint, no matter what weapons we happen to be weilding (.357, sharp stick, mini van...).

Some day hopefully we will see this loophole resolved. I work in the firearms industry, and I am shamefully forced to illegally use MMJ in a state where it is legal. If i were to get a red card id be fired tomorrow, and wouldn't be able to buy and new handguns in CO. Why, because I spent 8 years in the military, know exactly what Im doing with a gun, have 0 arrests, violent or otherwise, and like to smoke a joint now and then to help with injuries i received defending this country?

The idea that Marijuana is "dangerous" fuels way too much money into the "war on drugs." This is just another representation of them securing that funding. Keep buying firearms and keep lying on those forms! You might need them one day lol

MMJ Licensing is back-door gun control (mmj also creates an industry that can lobby against legalization in order to keep profits in the mmj industry's pockets).

According to the feds having controlled substances and fire arms in the same domicile/vehicle is a felony. However, you can still trade, buy and sell guns privately in the state meaning there does not need to be a record of your fire arms purchases...this doesn't make it "legal" to use mmj and own a fire arm but it doesn't advertise that you're breaking "the law" either.

http://www.rmgo.org

angelsbandit said:

Macguyver4.2.0,

You are confused on firearms laws:

Buying a handgun from a dealer is no different than buying a shotgun as far as a background search - you have to do the paperwork for either.

There is no such thing as a registered handgun under Federal law, but some states and cities have restrictive laws requiring registration, and imposing bans on certain weapons.

Colorado is an open carry State, so you can carry a visible weapon on your person unless restricted by local law. It is also legal in CO. to carry a loaded handgun in your vehicle as long as it is not in plain sight.

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"In general, it does not change things legally if it is loaded or not. For example, in your car, the law does prohibit long guns with a round chambered, but not handguns. These are based on hunting laws. But the law concerning weapons “in facilities of public transportation” does specify “any loaded firearm.” Technically, an unloaded firearm would be legal, but a violation of this law is a felony, so arguing loaded v. unloaded is some very thin ice to skate on. 33-6-125. Possession of a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle."


It can be loaded if not in plain sight? Do you know where I can find the CRS on that? I had no idea, I tend to keep my ammo in a separate lock box in my vehicle and it irritates me!

Bonzi Lighthouse said:

Are you talking about the United States of America here? You STILL have the right to 'keep and bear arms' as long as they are properly registered. This is just plain wrong, there is no "registration" of individuals fire arms on a federal level. The carring of an un licienced weapon is a crime (in most jusistrictions) in and of it self.

and I thought there was a lot of bad plant advise on this board!!!

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Are Colorado Citizens required to register their firearms? NO. In fact, state law prohibits firearms registration by local or state government (the federal Brady Act is another matter, though that's not "claimed" to be registration).
CRS 29-11.7-103. Regulation - type of firearm - prohibited.
A local government may not enact an ordinance, regulation, or other law that prohibits the sale, purchase, or possession of a firearm that a person may lawfully sell, purchase, or possess under state or federal law. Any such ordinance, regulation, or other law enacted by a local government prior to March 18, 2003, is void and unenforceable.
CRS 29-11.7-102. Firearms database - prohibited.
(1) A local government, including a law enforcement agency, shall not maintain a list or other form of record or database of:
(a) Persons who purchase or exchange firearms or who leave firearms for repair or sale on consignment;
(b) Persons who transfer firearms, unless the persons are federally licensed firearms dealers;
(c) The descriptions, including serial numbers, of firearms purchased, transferred, exchanged, or left for repair or sale on consignment.
What is required when I bring firearms from another state? NOTHING
Is it legal for a private citizen to sell a firearm to another private citizen? YES, as long as the seller has no knowledge that the purchaser is ineligible to purchase that firearm. Click here to sell firearms privately.
Is it legal for a private citizen to sell ammunition to another private citizen? YES.
Does Colorado require "handgun registration"? NO (Only because of the hard work of RMGO and it's members).

Either way MMJ or no MMJ why leave a paper trail? Here's a great spot for private trading:
http://www.cologunmarket.com/mkt/

This is BS I have my MMJ card and own 4 Rifles and 2 shotguns and a friend of mine is an active ccw holder and mmj holder ALSO has his class 3 liscence for a silenced pistol.

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class 3 license for silent pistol. i want one.

This is why civil issues need to be addressed with ANY legalization attempts. The war on marijuana allows them to violate just about every constitutional right we have, which is one of the reasons law enforcement is always against legalization. They want to get an amendment legalizing an oz and under but it doesnt change the fact that cops can bust your door down and search your car based on smell alone, nor does it change the fact that they are still going to have issues with firearms and marijuana.

it's lots of fun all you hear is the action moving back and forth and barley a whisper from the bullet

I've had the cops at my house before, they knew I had 2 firearms and my garden... they didn't do anything.

Why were the cops by there?!? I see one drive by and I get all tense, yet alone knocking on the door. I am afraid to own an airsoft gun with my plants

Who know's but in AZ anyone can carry so I don't have to worry about that. HA!