P.P.P. x Blueberry x Sativa.(Full gro with pics)

natmoon

natmoon

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exzile said:
do all the hairs on the buds turn red when there getting done? or do some plants stay a lil yellow and a lil amber?
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All strains are different.
As a rule most people who don't care to much about technicalities harvest when about three quarters of the hairs on the whole plant are brown.
This gives you an even balance in most cases of stone and high.
Personally i don't have tric inspections and i just wait until the calyxes are nice and swollen then i harvest properly.

The bud i pictured previously was a lower bud and all though the hairs are mostly brown the calyxes have not yet swollen properly.
Hairs can go brown for the wrong reasons as well like bad environment,temps,etc. or to much nutes.:peace::joint:
 
natmoon

natmoon

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kayasgarden said:
very nice nat you know we will be waiting for the smoke report, cant wait to hear the weight too you grew some monsters here!!!!! So nice being on the home streach!!!!!
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Hey kaya hows it going?
I will probably harvest them at by the looks of it 85 days,so about another 10 days or so.
I will of course take pics and let you know how it toked etc.
Thanks for taking a look:peace::joint:
 
zedragon

zedragon

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hey Nat, theres not much i can say but WOW mate WOW! this is the result of just a little attention to detail that makes all difference. nice growing my friend:clap:.

ze
 
natmoon

natmoon

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zedragon said:
hey Nat, theres not much i can say but WOW mate WOW! this is the result of just a little attention to detail that makes all difference. nice growing my friend:clap:.

ze
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Hey zedragon thanks for taking a look mate and for the kind comments:peace::joint:
 
Revolution101

Revolution101

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Thanks for stopping by my grow again nat. I cant wait to see how much you pull off your plant. Things just keep looking better and better over here.
 
Ativas

Ativas

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natmoon said:
I really don't think cannabis needs all of its leaves in a controlled environment and i want to end up with sticks of bud with as little leaf on as possible.

I know that leaves collect light and make sugars but its always a trade off,if the leaves are using the available nutes and light then the buds get less.

I would rather snip fan leaves as they get in the way and enhance growth to the buds and the tiny bud leaves that are tric covered.
I do this over the whole flowering period and try to take only a few leaves here and there so as not to cause stress:blsmoke:
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You're making an incorrect assumption about buds taking lights and nutes. Those fan leaves are required for proper bud production and are highly valuable, again, required, for this process. It's the leaves that are processing the light ... Snipping them is costing you yield, big time - not to mention the overall health of your plant, which again, affects yield. The fan leaves that 'cover' the buds are not in the way, this is where you're making your mistake; those leaves are needed. The buds will do worse without them, not better.

natmoon said:
i want to end up with sticks of bud with as little leaf on as possible.
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I cannot stress enough how incorrect this thinking is. Each time you remove leaves you are reducing your overall yield. Perhaps only a little at a time, but taking it down to sticks of bud by harvest time means that you have lost a significant amount of yield. The thing is, you won't know the difference ... you'll take your yield, accept it for what it is and never know how much you really lost. I expect you'll argue the point, but, with all due respect, I'm not interested in repeating this. I'm just trying to help. You can believe it, or not, it's your yield, not mine.
 
natmoon

natmoon

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Ativas said:
You're making an incorrect assumption about buds taking lights and nutes. Those fan leaves are required for proper bud production and are highly valuable, again, required, for this process. It's the leaves that are processing the light ... Snipping them is costing you yield, big time - not to mention the overall health of your plant, which again, affects yield. The fan leaves that 'cover' the buds are not in the way, this is where you're making your mistake; those leaves are needed. The buds will do worse without them, not better.

I cannot stress enough how incorrect this thinking is. Each time you remove leaves you are reducing your overall yield. Perhaps only a little at a time, but taking it down to sticks of bud by harvest time means that you have lost a significant amount of yield. The thing is, you won't know the difference ... you'll take your yield, accept it for what it is and never know how much you really lost. I expect you'll argue the point, but, with all due respect, I'm not interested in repeating this. I'm just trying to help. You can believe it, or not, it's your yield, not mine.
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Yeah thanks for the advice dude.
I only have 20+ years experience so i guess i wouldn't notice the difference.
My buds are just so small and useless without all of those fan leaves on i don't know what i would do without all the kindly negative people to point out my stupid newbish mistakes:mrgreen:
 
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drew420man

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haha danm i cant believe someone out there would actually say nat is doing something wrong. i have never seen a 5 foot nug as big around as my leg let alone every cola this fool has. hes doing something right thats for SURE
 
natmoon

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drew420man said:
haha danm i cant believe someone out there would actually say nat is doing something wrong. i have never seen a 5 foot nug as big around as my leg let alone every cola this fool has. hes doing something right thats for SURE
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Yeah man i have obviously tested both ways of growing.
If the plant was outdoors or i had a large amount of high powered lights then maybe i wouldn't take as much leaf off as i do with only the 400 watt lamp.
What some people seem to fail to understand is the fact that the plant has evolved for outdoor growth i.e. the plant knows that it will need to have more leaf to store water and nutes while it is dry and also because of predators from all corners,mites to deer.
There are no deer,no mites and no dry spells in my cupboard:mrgreen:
 
natmoon

natmoon

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Heres some mostly sativa that i crossed with my own mostly indica.
Just cut the top off.
This plant has no leaves either:mrgreen:





 
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drew420man

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haha thats very true. i argue that alot but no one seems to understand that a plant is a fixed object in space. it has addapted to every environment since its been on earth. i think it likes indoor the most because all the TLC haha
 
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drew420man

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holy shit!! nice lookin herb but i do see some leaves hidden behind those crystals. looks like you could get all the leaves and have straight budz
 
Ratty696

Ratty696

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Looking nice man!! I dont think that you have compomised your yield it looks to me like your plants are doing very well!! Dont listen to people who dont know what they are talking about!!
 
pinksensa

pinksensa

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You are so much more polite than me I started a full on riot a few weeks down over my position that you really can trim fan leaves at will......since I have moved my nutes to only bloom nutes the more I trim the faster she re-grows.....the riot got so bad in my journal I shut it down for a few days....the fact is there is evidentiary proof all over the place that the plant can thrive with less leaves. I think that over time people have made such a huge deal out of not trimming to keep really green noobs from trimming their plants so bad and neurotically.....but for sure you can trim trim trim....

You make me want to cross the water just to see you!!!

natmoon said:
Yeah thanks for the advice dude.
I only have 20+ years experience so i guess i wouldn't notice the difference.
My buds are just so small and useless without all of those fan leaves on i don't know what i would do without all the kindly negative people to point out my stupid newbish mistakes:mrgreen:
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natmoon

natmoon

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drew420man said:
holy shit!! nice lookin herb but i do see some leaves hidden behind those crystals. looks like you could get all the leaves and have straight budz
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Yeah all the little bud leaves are sufficient for the needed light absorption.
Only difference is most of the little leaves are tric covered:blsmoke:
 
natmoon

natmoon

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Ratty696 said:
Looking nice man!! I dont think that you have compomised your yield it looks to me like your plants are doing very well!! Dont listen to people who dont know what they are talking about!!
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Hey ratty thanks for stopping by dude:joint:
My yield is definitely not compromised lol.:mrgreen:
Hopefully people will just try both ways and find out for themselves:peace::joint:
 
natmoon

natmoon

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pinksensa said:
You are so much more polite than me I started a full on riot a few weeks down over my position that you really can trim fan leaves at will......since I have moved my nutes to only bloom nutes the more I trim the faster she re-grows.....the riot got so bad in my journal I shut it down for a few days....the fact is there is evidentiary proof all over the place that the plant can thrive with less leaves. I think that over time people have made such a huge deal out of not trimming to keep really green noobs from trimming their plants so bad and neurotically.....but for sure you can trim trim trim....

You make me want to cross the water just to see you!!!
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Hey pinksensa thanks for commenting it is appreciated.
As you know you can trim a lot and the plant will be fine as long as you look after them carefully.
I get fat buds that need little trimming and all my plants efforts go into bud production and not leaf.
I gave up getting angry on the internet a couple of months ago lol:mrgreen:
Doesn't help me at all to rise to it it does however never cease to amaze me that someone could go through my entire journal and search for something to moan about or say that i am doing wrong.
Id like to whip him with my rubbish small buds hahaha:mrgreen::peace::joint:
 
Ativas

Ativas

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natmoon said:
Yeah thanks for the advice dude.
I only have 20+ years experience so i guess i wouldn't notice the difference.
My buds are just so small and useless without all of those fan leaves on i don't know what i would do without all the kindly negative people to point out my stupid newbish mistakes:mrgreen:
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I did my first grow in 1974 so this isn't my first rodeo either. Sure, you're doing great, but you could do better. Believe what you will. Makes no difference to me.
 
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