Pandemic 2020

Steinbach pastor says he's been flooded with angry messages after being featured in vaccine campaign
'People would call ... and say I'm going to hell,' says Kyle Penner after hearing from anti-vaccine crowd

A Steinbach pastor says he's been getting abusive phone calls, emails and Facebook messages since becoming part of a provincial campaign encouraging Manitobans to get vaccinated.

Kyle Penner, an associate pastor at Grace Mennonite Church in Steinbach, is one of the faces of the Manitoba government's Take a Seat ad campaign, which features various community members talking about the importance of getting vaccinated so Manitobans can get back to the shared experiences they love.

Penner also wrote an article for the campaign's website about his decision to get vaccinated and his experience doing so.

After the ads went live on social media last week, people started commenting on his public Facebook posts, questioning his faith and accusing him of taking money to be part of the campaign, which he says isn't true.

Penner said he thought he'd seen the last of the nasty messages, until he showed up for work on Monday, where he was welcomed with dozens of angry voicemails and emails.

"Then my phone rang a bunch today [Tuesday] and they just really wanted to tell me I was wrong," he said.

While he was prepared for some criticism, Penner says he underestimated how much anger is out there.

"I was shocked, I would say, I was surprised that some people would call a stranger and say I'm going to hell. Like, thanks," he said

"I don't know what to do. Like, I don't want to be the person who hangs up on these people who are calling me because that doesn't help anything. But I don't know what else to do. I had some conversations with them and they didn't really help. So I don't know what to do there either," he said.

Though rates in Steinbach have been slowly climbing, as of Tuesday, just under 51 per cent of people in the health district had received at least one shot of a COVID-19 vaccine, compared with 73 per cent provincially.

In neighbouring Hanover, only 37.1 per cent of people have been vaccinated.

Differing ideologies, though it should be expected and not shocking. If a person is generally driven by something/someone they hate, they become a christian/republican. And, his job is to teach about love/humanity/humility to people that have none of it. It's an uphill battle, but that's what fighting the good fight looks like if you believe in that stuff. Not a big fan of religion, but there are definitely some aspects that are admirable, like I'm sure he'll put his head down and get back to work.

Told ya shit was going to hit the fan in July.

It's beginning. Patients in southwest #Missouri are starting to be transferred to other hospitals, hundreds of miles away, as hospitals become filled with COVID patients. Only 38% of #Missouri is fully vaccinated & #DeltaVariant infections are surging. https://news-leader.com/story/news/loc

Early estimate for the number of people expected to be infected with Delta is 36 million in the US.

UK deaths:

Daily infections in the UK now roughly the same as in late Jan and Nov last year, while deaths - obviously lagging behind - are still nowhere near the same. Unless the number of deaths increase 50-100x in a few weeks it is very unlikely it will get anywhere near as bad as it has been. And while delta+ won’t be the last more dangerous variant, a dog can’t mutate into a bird.


June 26th was the first day since september there were zero covid deaths in NL. Also zero new ICU patients a couple of days ago. Daily infections plateaued around 500, 10% is delta variant. About half is delta in Amsterdam, but that’s only ~25 daily cases. Mask mandate lifted last week. A strange sight, seeing crowds without masks. As I expected, there’s no such thing as a new normal, turns out it takes about 48-72 hours of no measures for people to get back to normal as if there never was corona. The experts are optimistic about the next month or two and hopeful the fall will show no major increase in hospitalizations and deaths despite an expected increase in cases.

Last week they opened a hotline for a J&J shot. 2million people called, that’s almost all our youngsters. The main reasons they are so eager is not necessarily to gain protection against covid but needing only 1 shot to be able to go to “festivals” and “vacations abroad” without having to get tested every time. Regardless of their reasons, if needed in the fall, they only need to be motivated to get one more shot. Those festivals are huge outdoor designer drug field labs so shouldn’t be very exciting for them.

Got my second pfizer shot a few days ago. Asked the girl who stuck the needle in my arm if she heard any good new 5G jokes. She had no idea what I was talking about. Akward... I guess she doesn’t facebook.

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It's beginning. Patients in southwest #Missouri are starting to be transferred to other hospitals, hundreds of miles away, as hospitals become filled with COVID patients. Only 38% of #Missouri is fully vaccinated & #DeltaVariant infections are surging. https://news-leader.com/story/news/loc

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The show me State. Looks like they’re about to get shown.

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Steinbach pastor says he's been flooded with angry messages after being featured in vaccine campaign
'People would call ... and say I'm going to hell,' says Kyle Penner after hearing from anti-vaccine crowd

A Steinbach pastor says he's been getting abusive phone calls, emails and Facebook messages since becoming part of a provincial campaign encouraging Manitobans to get vaccinated.

Kyle Penner, an associate pastor at Grace Mennonite Church in Steinbach, is one of the faces of the Manitoba government's Take a Seat ad campaign, which features various community members talking about the importance of getting vaccinated so Manitobans can get back to the shared experiences they love.

Penner also wrote an article for the campaign's website about his decision to get vaccinated and his experience doing so.

After the ads went live on social media last week, people started commenting on his public Facebook posts, questioning his faith and accusing him of taking money to be part of the campaign, which he says isn't true.

Penner said he thought he'd seen the last of the nasty messages, until he showed up for work on Monday, where he was welcomed with dozens of angry voicemails and emails.

"Then my phone rang a bunch today [Tuesday] and they just really wanted to tell me I was wrong," he said.

While he was prepared for some criticism, Penner says he underestimated how much anger is out there.

"I was shocked, I would say, I was surprised that some people would call a stranger and say I'm going to hell. Like, thanks," he said

"I don't know what to do. Like, I don't want to be the person who hangs up on these people who are calling me because that doesn't help anything. But I don't know what else to do. I had some conversations with them and they didn't really help. So I don't know what to do there either," he said.

Though rates in Steinbach have been slowly climbing, as of Tuesday, just under 51 per cent of people in the health district had received at least one shot of a COVID-19 vaccine, compared with 73 per cent provincially.

In neighbouring Hanover, only 37.1 per cent of people have been vaccinated.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/pastor-angry-messages-vaccine-campaign-reaction-1.6085543

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I would be willing to bet that the majority of these idiots that are calling and harassing people are just paid trolls mostly. The same ones that call CSPAN with their talking points. I wish they would ask people if they get paid to make those calls while they are on air. It gets pretty obvious.

hanimmal said:

I would be willing to bet that the majority of these idiots that are calling and harassing people are just paid trolls mostly. The same ones that call CSPAN with their talking points. I wish they would ask people if they get paid to make those calls while they are on air. It gets pretty obvious.

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No, the people are not getting paid. They are truly brainwashed. My brother in law's sister (from the area) is one of them.

captainmorgan said:

It's beginning. Patients in southwest #Missouri are starting to be transferred to other hospitals, hundreds of miles away, as hospitals become filled with COVID patients. Only 38% of #Missouri is fully vaccinated & #DeltaVariant infections are surging. https://news-leader.com/story/news/loc

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Southwest Colorado hospitals capacity is near max.

i was listening to excerpts from our framers regarding Independence Day..'Freedom from Theology' was one..they never said 'Freedom from Science'.

I tried calling one of my patients for her appointment on Tuesday and she is in the hospital with Covid!! She never got her vaccination. It’s going to be spreading like wildfire over here now.

Germany recommends combination of AstraZeneca, mRNA shots (yahoo.com)

Germany recommends combination of AstraZeneca, mRNA shots

BERLIN (AP) — Germany is recommending that all people who get a first shot of the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine switch to a different type of vaccine for their second shot. The aim is to increase the speed and effectiveness of vaccinations as the more contagious delta variant spreads.

Health Minister Jens Spahn conferred with his colleagues from Germany's 16 states on Friday, the day after the country's standing committee on vaccination issued a draft recommendation. In a statement, the committee said that “according to current study results,” the immune response from a mixture of AstraZeneca with an mRNA vaccine was “significantly superior” to that from two doses of AstraZeneca.

It recommended that the second dose with an mRNA vaccine — Germany uses those made by BioNTech-Pfizer and Moderna — be administered four weeks or more after the first AstraZeneca shot. That is much shorter than the nine to 12 weeks the committee recommends between two doses of AstraZeneca.

The committee, known by its German acronym STIKO, didn't detail what studies its conclusion was based on. Germany's disease control center noted that it was a draft, and that a final recommendation with more detail and sourcing will follow. Researchers have said that mixing vaccines is likely safe and effective, but are still gathering data to be sure.

German authorities already decided in April that under-60s who had received a first AstraZeneca shot should as a rule get a second shot of an mRNA vaccine. The decision came after the AstraZeneca vaccine was linked to extremely rare blood clots in younger people. Germany recommends that under-60s consult with a doctor before taking it.

Spahn said Friday that enough mRNA vaccine is available to implement the new recommendation quickly and that it “makes the AstraZeneca vaccine more attractive,” with large quantities now arriving and the prospect of a much shorter wait for the second shot.

He said the head of STIKO told ministers that the combination of AstraZeneca and BioNTech “protects as least as well as BioNTech-BioNTech as a combination, in some cases even better.” But he also stressed that two doses of AstraZeneca give good protection. BioNTech-Pfizer has been the mainstay of Germany's campaign, with AstraZeneca a distant second in terms of doses administered.

Germany is keen to keep upping the pace of its vaccination campaign even as new infections have sunk to their lowest level in months, pointing to the rise of the delta variant. Authorities believe it now accounts for more than half of new cases, and are keen to ensure that people get their second vaccine shots.

“Only double-vaccinated protects well against delta,” except in the case of the single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine, Spahn said.

As of Wednesday, Germany had given at least one shot to 55.1% of its population, and 37.3% were fully vaccinated. “That's a good figure, but it's still not enough,” Spahn said.

Chancellor Angela Merkel, who is 66, recently received a second shot of Moderna's vaccine after taking a first shot of AstraZeneca. Her spokesman said that was a conscious effort to encourage people not to be afraid if they are advised to get a mix of shots.

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So true. This past week at the clinic I heard some really off the wall things about the vaccine from patients. I had one guy ask my if he could safely get a CT scan because he was vaccinated . he read that the vaccine has metal in it. He was so embarrassed when I said “what are you talking about ?” ( and looked at him like he was completely nuts ) and he said “ nevermind , it was just something I read that I guess wasn’t true.” and quickly changed the subject.
Lol. He was such a jerk. I was surprised he even got the vaccine. He admitted he didn’t want it and told me he had given up all hope for the world anyway , so decided to throw in the towel and like he would practically be committing suicide getting the vaccine. I saw the governor of Arkansas today report that vaccinations are up since last month and more and more people are getting vaccinated in the state because they are scared now that they can see their friends and family members getting Covid. I guess this was what had to happen to get these people to see the big picture . In this case ignorance is not bliss, it’s embarrassing.

Delta Variant Brings Calamity to Countries Stuck Waiting for Covid-19 Vaccines - WSJ

Delta Variant Brings Calamity to Countries Stuck Waiting for Covid-19 Vaccines
Sparsely vaccinated developing countries have been left exposed while shots protect wealthy nations from surges in hospitalizations and deaths

SINGAPORE—The fast-spreading Delta variant of the coronavirus is driving up infections around the world, both in countries that have achieved large-scale vaccination and those that haven’t. There is one crucial difference, though: Vaccines are helping wealthy nations escape steep rises in severe cases and deaths while developing countries short on shots battle deadly surges.

Indonesia, where Covid-19 cases have reached new highs, has reported about 500 deaths a day in the past week—almost triple the daily levels recorded in early June—data from its health ministry shows. Authorities are racing to add hospital beds as medical workers in parts of the country face shortages of ventilators and isolation rooms. Patients are traveling for hours for proper medical care, said the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies, which runs a hospital in West Java province and recently set up emergency tents on-site to accommodate the flow.

“Every day we are seeing this Delta variant driving Indonesia closer to the edge of a Covid-19 catastrophe,” Jan Gelfand, who leads the group’s delegation in the country, said recently. “We need lightning-fast action globally so that countries like Indonesia have access to the vaccines needed to avert tens of thousands of deaths.”

In the U.K., by contrast, the variant is dominant and has pushed reported daily cases up by 67% in the past week compared with the week before, but deaths are down 1.6%, government data shows. Israel, another wealthy nation with high inoculation levels, has reported small new outbreaks but just one fatality in the last two weeks of June, according to data from the World Health Organization. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in the U.S., where the variant is highly prevalent, says that vaccines are effective against it. “If you look at the share of the population fully vaccinated in the United States and world-wide, they’re dramatically different, as is the dynamics of infection,” he said.

The divergence is the result of months of inequitable vaccine supply that has left the developing world exposed. The U.S. and U.K. have fully inoculated about half their populations, but across the African continent, just over 1% of people have been fully vaccinated. Mortuaries in Zambia are full and patients are dying in hospital hallways in South Africa waiting for care.