Pandora's Box - Spectrum of Effects report by Scareb

Hobbes

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I give bud to 3 med patients, one gets close to half of my production and he did this report for me. I don't feel like I've vaped enough properly cured Pandora's Box to do justice to a spectrum of effects review but I do think this review is accurate. He's done all of the strains that I've done but this is his first smoke review, I want him to start thinking more about each strain's effects to choose our keepers rather than just "I like it and go through it quick." One of the other two folks I give bud to has done a few reports for me, I'll post those later on.

Two last notes. I find Pandora's Box to be more potent than the Jack The Ripper pheno I got this time. The 4 of us who've vaped Pandora's Box all found it to be sedative, not sure if I harvested too late but I thought it would be stimulating.

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Pandora's Box -
TGA Seeds

by Scareb

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Spectrum of Experience1. Onset: fast effect or creeper. creeper 1 2 3 4 5 fast

I would rate it at a 4 because although it does come on fast, it isn't that overwhelming fuzzy feeling that some smokes give you.


2. Up (stimulating) and Down (sedative)

Liven the disposition and stimulate the emotions:


I find this smoke puts you in a tired state of mind without the fatigue, so no, it is not stimulating


Inspiring sociability and talkativeness:


Although it may release some tension, it does not make you more talkative, but you may be more comfortable sitting around with other laid back people


Sedative and depressant effects:


Depression is a relative term so i personally do not find this to be a depressing smoke, but it is very very sedative. The interesting thing that i have pointed out before, is that you get the same state of mind of being tired without feeling fatigued


3. Head High / Body Stone

Energizing: Not in the least

Motivating:
sort of motivating. your not out going, but you want to keep busy

Couch lock:
if you can find something mind numbingly simple to do with your hands while on the couch then you are set. something like a cross word or Sudoku puzzle would do the job for me


4. Emotional State Caused

Anxiety: i would say this smoke relieves anxiety

Euphoria:
not really

Calm:
definitely, although you are not going to be doing complex things

paranoia:
a good medication for paranoia


5. Body - medicinal effects


Nausea:
not for me but i wouldn't be surprised if it did for others

Pain:
nope

Seizures:
are you kidding?

Back:
feels fine


6. Head - medicinal effects

Depression: doesn't bring you up but brings you to just about even

Mania:
not that I have ever had that, but no.

Anxiety:
helps

Antisocial:
does not help at all

Anger:
chills you out a good amount but doesn't make you happy


7. Ceiling: How high (of far) one is capable of going with the variety. How many hits can be consumed until more hits are unnoticeable:

Couldn't say.


8. Potency: weak 1 2 3 4 5 strong:

this is a 3 for potency. it is good but not over powering, and certainly not a knock out bud


9. Duration short 1 2 3 4 5 long:

about 45 minutes to an hour for a heavy smoker. not bad


10. Tolerance:
ability to provide the same experience via the same amount over time – the burnout factor. "Over time" means the long run: months, years, decades...:

too soon to tell


11. Taste:


No taste what so ever. maybe a bit musky, and definitely scratchy on the throat but that's it.

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http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/tga-subcool-seeds/tga-subcool-seeds-pandora-39-s-box/prod_1184.html

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bongsmilie
 

Fditty00

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Hobbes strikes again! Always look forward to your reports. PB has been on a long list of to-do's. Sounds like u have a good patient, who works with u, to choose the right meds for their needs. + rep
 

delstele

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I have these beans I waiting to crack them cuz I have to many thing in the fire now.. Thanks for the report!
 

Hobbes

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I'm on the last of the bud from my 2nd of 3 Pandora's Box, it's been curing about 5 weeks. We've been noticing a beautiful musky taste developing, very smooth, becoming a pleasure to vape. Still not potent enough.

Scareb has been finding Jack The Ripper to be a very up and happy bud, neither of us find it trippy but I did experience some unpleasant restlessness.

Really nice deep musky taste on this PB that fills the top of the mouth with taste, almost grape. It's not Flo but it's a nice taste.

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bongsmilie
 

trapper

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I'm on the last of the bud from my 2nd of 3 Pandora's Box, it's been curing about 5 weeks. We've been noticing a beautiful musky taste developing, very smooth, becoming a pleasure to vape. Still not potent enough.

Scareb has been finding Jack The Ripper to be a very up and happy bud, neither of us find it trippy but I did experience some unpleasant restlessness.

Really nice deep musky taste on this PB that fills the top of the mouth with taste, almost grape. It's not Flo but it's a nice taste.

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bongsmilie
great report,can i ask how old your flo genetics are,my buddy grew it about 15 years ago and still raves about the flavor and the floating non anxiety high.but then again not too many people can hold a candle to dj short,the man is a master.
 

haze2

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Hobbes can you tell me a bit more about your harvest time and how you dried and cured?? Wondering why theres not much of a taste?? Not questioning your skills by no means just curious?? Haze2
 

Hobbes

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"can i ask how old your flo genetics are"

Only about 3 years Trapper, and they came via Dutch Passion unfortunately. Still a beautiful vapor, so tasty and so enabling. I'm going to order a pack of seeds from DJ Short sometime soon to see if there's a better pheno or plant out there. I find Flo that good, spectacular high.

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Hey Haze2

"can you tell me a bit more about your harvest time and how you dried and cured??"

Pandora's Box is a quick flowering plant, 8-9 weeks, gets frosty early. I dried the first two plants by hanging, then bag, then jar. I found that the buds dried out too much so this time around I clipped the colas and laid them on a nylon screen for drying clothes, the collapsing camping type.

It really helped, I ground 2 cups of small buds (~3 week) and left them in my veg room while I did some flower room work. When I came out it smelled like someone had left out a big bowl of Whelches grape juice. The taste is better but I'm hoping for developing taste and smell as it cures the next 2 or 3 weeks.

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"Wondering why theres not much of a taste??"

There was next to none on the first two, until the last jar of cured bud when it started to get grapey.

The third plant has much more taste at 3 weeks cure, I think it will get more flavorful. I don't remember reading any reviews mentioning grape, it's citrus in their ads.

"Not questioning your skills by no means just curious??"

Question all things, especially me. ;)

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bongsmilie
 

haze2

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Hobbes thanks for the help with this strain. So let me ask, did you do any type of flush on them at all?? if so how long or what method?? When you said the first 2 plants didnt have any flavor or almost none do you think those were flavorless phenos?? Or were they not cured?? Supposed to be citrusy is what Ive also heard. Haze2
 

haze2

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Hobbes how bout that candy store pheno in them Jillys anything you can tell me from yours?? any pics??
 

Hobbes

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"did you do any type of flush on them at all?? if so how long or what method??"

I'm testing the school of thought that most strains will have some of their best bud swell in the last week or two. The only thing I do is to stop adding Cha Ching (Fox Farm) as soon as I see my first amber on a sativa or 25% cloudy on an indica. I keep feeding it Liquid Karma, Hygrozme, Dark Energy, Kool Bloom, OverDrive and Big Bud right to the end. I find that it's the cure that makes the vapor smooth, flushing may speed that up but the cure will take care of taste so long as you don't over feed the plant at the end.



"When you said the first 2 plants didnt have any flavor or almost none do you think those were flavorless phenos?? Or were they not cured??"

I'll take responsibility for mistakes while learning the first time around. My root system's on the first two were poor, the yield was low. This third PB was the first plant I kept in veg for 2 weeks after transplanting to a 5 gallon pot, the yield on the first two were poor. On the third I got a little over 2 liters (9 cups) @ 3 week cured after clipping about a dozen small colas for sampling (It had 38 ). I'm believe that I can get at least 3 liters of cured bud from a plant the size of the one above.

I was watering with 1 gallon of water using the lift the bucket method, after popping a root ball to add trapping fabric I saw that it was dry on the bottom with almost no roots. I started watering until I get run though, about 2 gallons of water, I expect that to improve the root system and increase yield.

As well, I have one 600 watt HID supplying 4 people (2 high dosage med users), so often I don't have enough to let it cure properly. A lot of strains get really smooth and tasty after 4 - 5 weeks cure.



"Supposed to be citrusy is what Ive also heard."

I don't remember any one on Subcool's forum mentioning grape either. I'll take a closer look tonight, it might have been something I over looked. No question these last two plants are musky grape, very nice.



https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/




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"how bout that candy store pheno in them Jillys anything you can tell me from yours?? any pics?? "

Nothing near the end, which is too bad because it had some fantastic colas, like upside down pears. This is the latest picture I took of my 3 Jillybeans from seed, I'm not sure which one is the Candy Store. I had 9 females from 4 strains germenated at the same time, all three Jillybeans were grew the quickest and went into flower a month or more before the 3 Pandora's Box.

I've read that Jillybean is an average or small producer but 2 of my 3 plants were excellent even on the first grow. I had one cola so big around that it barely fit into a 1 liter Zip Lock Jar, when you get 3 dozen colas even a quarter that size it's a nice harvest.



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bongsmilie
 

haze2

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Ha!! Im absolutely speachless. Um about the Jillybean Sub says that its a heavy producer?? Well at bidzbay shall I. So nothing in particular with the candy store pheno that you can remember, just curious to know If I have a few lerking around. The yields on each do you have an actual weight on them?? I have been feeding with a gallon up until now, and I am now giving about a gallon and a half you think I should be giving 2 gallons?? just curious. As for that flushing method, your not using Organic nutes are you?? Im using botanicare and some MOAB by mad farmer I wonder if I should flush. Lots of Qs I know Im just very interested lol. Haze2
 
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