VIANARCHRIS
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kinda like alcohol and tobacco?
Paul Lewin : The Liberal Party Will Ruin Legalization
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nobody important 666
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Probably more like restricted guns
VIANARCHRIS
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Sure. Cause that makes perfect sense.
nobody important 666
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Sure it does. You are treated as a criminal to own or use one and the liberals dont want any around and change the rules on any given day. Kinda sounds like their idea on legalization
The Hippy
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So pretty much the same system we have always had...only this time they insert themselves between the cash and us. Very clever.....buncha cunts...BOYCOTT or be a knee dropper.
doingdishes
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so they will restrict it...it's pretty restricted now so what will change? we have to pay the Government to access??
Growdict
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exactly, nothing will change. if i can buy a decent oz for 150-160 so $5.5/g why would I buy from a LP at $10/g. and why can LPs not figure out how to grow profitably? If the black market is full of gangs with billions of dollars selling at $5.5/g how can LPs suck so bad?
GroErr
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Taxes and regulations will continue to drive the price up so the black market will continue to thrive at the rate this is going, not a bad thing for those who depend on it. I think their plan is to use regulations/laws/sentences to deter the black market vs. lower prices, not a great plan considering it's always been there and will continue to be there if there's opportunity.
TheDizzyBizzy
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Remember when all the Justin drones used to attack anyone who pointed this out last year? Now they all want to pretend they said this all along. Remember when Jodie and Marc Emery were attacking anyone who said Trudeau would fuck up Legalization? Yeah, I remember.
GroErr
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Live in the past much or need constant reassurances that you're right and others are wrong? You may want to see a psychologist and sort that out. Who cares what was said last year, you sound like my ex bringing up shit I had said 10 years before in a conversation that had nothing to do with it. Things change, shit happens, opinions change, so what? You sound like a high school kid.
VIANARCHRIS
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That was talked about long ago...how the gov. recognizes the need to keep prices low in order to stem the black market. I'm not sure how they get there, though. The only way to do it,imo, is to allow personal production and 'ma & pa' competition. The LP's will be forced to drop their prices to attract business. Any attempt to limit production and sales to one source just bolsters the black market and will be a fail. Let's hope they at least have the intelligence to figure that part out. I hate this wait-and-see bullshit! Bring in controls identical to alcohol and the problem is solved. I don't see a huge black market for homemade booze, it happens, but it's not very common. Cannabis could and should be the same- minus the violence, arrests and traffic deaths.....
GroErr
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Yeah that's the key difference whether this goes well or bad, open market competition and let the market sort it out. Any other alternatives like ridiculous controls or favourism towards a few LP's is bound to fail and keep the BM going. Alcohol hasn't had to deal with this level of restriction, if you want to make your own beer/wine it's an option and you don't have register, hide out, or jump through endless regulations to do it. With the level of taxation on booze/beer/wine it's kind of surprising there isn't a bigger BM for that. There is, the more rural you go, the easier it is to find "a guy" who sells beer out of his garage. I remember Bob down the road when I lived a little more rural and the beer store wasn't open on Sundays. I've never been a drinker but he did good business for a long time, the local alcoholics kept him going
doingdishes
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i think they'll "try" to get it right but if they make the price too affordable for people, the LP's will sue because they can't make as much money. if they make it too expensive, the BM will continue to thrive.
once it's legal,m i wonder what the penalties will be. i wonder how they'll handle home grows.
once it's legal,m i wonder what the penalties will be. i wonder how they'll handle home grows.
GroErr
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I'd imagine based on what they've said in their lead up to all of this that they will at least attempt to make penalties for selling into the BM more serious than they already are. Yeah they keep talking about balancing everything but on the other end they also keep talking about regulation and control, can't have it both ways and a closed market will hurt the chances of real competition. It's funny too because JT is always talking about making fact-based decisions and facts are that big business doesn't contribute anywhere near as many jobs as small businesses.
Here you go JT, some fact-based data from one of your own departments you idiot:
https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/061.nsf/eng/03022.html
CalyxCrusher
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Fuck the LPs. They cant sue for not hitting profit margins, too bad so sad for them
doingdishes
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they can sue because they were lied to....doesn't that sound familiar!
we have to fight for every step forward.
too bad the Government won't pull their heads out of their asses for a second and look at what we're saying. they just want to turn their heads the other way and deny we actually have brains!
VIANARCHRIS
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Did you have a chance to reread/rethink what you wrote? The Liberals are legalizing cannabis because "they don't want any around" and they want to treat you like a criminal? Isn't that what prohibition was all about? Discussing the potential what-if's of legalization is productive and enjoyable, but we need to keep things relatively real. It shouldn't matter which political party you support, we ALL want legalization that works for everyone, there is only one government in power to lobby...we need to be one voice. Bombarding the task force and politicians with our demands, ideas and expectations is a lot more effective than simply bitching about what might go down but taking whatever happens. Making bizarre claims of the Liberals wanting to treat cannabis like restricted weapons isn't doing our credibility any favours.
OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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me thinks thou doth protest too much...the actual out come will tell us whats up..not you me or anyone else
but having anne mc and biil blair in care of the hen house..smacks of Bair /Witch project
not awaiting another 1000 words..but it will come
i will be the frst to congratulate you for your wisdom but ..well
you know me.."montre moi ..[ne] pas dites moi"
keep an keeping the faith
but having anne mc and biil blair in care of the hen house..smacks of Bair /Witch project
not awaiting another 1000 words..but it will come
i will be the frst to congratulate you for your wisdom but ..well
you know me.."montre moi ..[ne] pas dites moi"
keep an keeping the faith
VIANARCHRIS
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Me thinks you doth comment on my opinion too much. I don't recall saying I am the one making the rules, and I know you aren't on the task force, so waiting on the actual outcome to know what they are actually going to do kinda makes sense. This forum is here to discuss and debate our thoughts and predictions. The fact that you think things will go differently than I do does not make my view any less valid. If others are free to share their views of how legalization will take away their weed, or how the Liberals are gonna treat cannabis like restricted weapons, I am free to point out the idiocy. I wasn't aware this was a contest, and I'm not out for any congrats...I'm just trying to inject some realism and sanity into the debate. You can agree with me, or not, I don't care