PC Case grow - Stealth + Perpetual + LST

v12xjs said:

Hey DryIs. Heartfelt thanks for stopping by and posting such a positive comment. You've really brightened my day.
Welcome to Rollitup and good luck with your grows.


I've been doing a it of the legwork I should have done before buying these VK seeds and it doesn't look promising. The genetics are malana x hindu kush and I should have looked into the malana aspect a bit more. The fact that I've smoked plenty of malana black possibly blinded me a bit, but now I look, I can't find any definitive info on flowering period because it takes so bloody long! Prolly 4 months or more!!!
Dusty had a light green colour to her leaves which would seem to be from the malana parentage but the 2 I have in flo ATM are much deeper green so maybe they will be closer to the kush genetically. That said, Trinity is at day 55 today and there's only the merest hint of flowers turning red. I can't see any chance of her being ready in 10 days and the more I think about it the less inclined I am to continue growing this strain, even the plants I already have.

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Thanks V, You've opened my eye to not forgetting to be smart and do your research on all the genetics going in to the plant you would like to grow! Sometime good info like this slips by, glad i caught this... used to be smart about that stuff, but the name games has taken over me!!! LOL hope your leg doesnt hurt from all that searching around! haha

Cheers Phase, glad it helps. I'm still kicking myself.

Hi V12,

trinity and Monica look fantastic great shots. You better stock up on the Red Bull cans soon!

Re the Kush well I only ever grew Bubba O Kush and OG Kush and both finished nicely at 9 weeks-ish (12/12) so I can see what you are saying re malana. I grew both strains on and off for about 5 years and was never disappointed. Hopefully those 2 ladies will have more of the Kush genetics as you say.

That's useful info ms, thanks. I'll take a bud from Trinity at 65 days and chop the rest at 70. If that doesn't do it I suspect I'll just BHO what I have left and start again from scratch.

FWIW here's a couple of pics. A group shot and a shot of one of Trinity's main colas at day 55. There's no way that cola is in the harvest window despite what Barneys Farm say about the strain.

So, the great v12 knows the art of BHO?!?! Would you share with us your technique as I would like to make that or hash from my trimmings, but I am unsure which is better.

I think the guys at barneys were sampling a little muCh when they were spec'ing that strain out, no where near ready!

I'm with you there gumball, they must have been off their faces!

Floridasucks is the man to speak to for processing bud, He's posted some stunning pics in his outdoor thread.

At times I've needed to make bad shit better and ingesting decarboxylated dope is about 8x stronger than smoking it. I also hate wasting stuff and don't want to throw out incriminating evidence either, so I keep all my trim & shade leaves and I have a little kit I use:



The funnel came with a hip flask I have. The end is slightly thinner than the plastic nozzle of a butane canister.

I powder up the trim as best I can by hand, a mortar and pestle makes it too fine. Once the trim is ready I fix 2 coffee filters over 1 end of the pipe using elastic bands and fill the other end with the trim, tapping it now and again to make sure it's settled but not compressed. I leave 1 inch of space at the end and insert the funnel.

The pipe gets way cold when the gas is released so I wear 2 gloves on the hand I use to hold the pipe. I point the end inside an upturned jar with a flexible pastic top like the 1 my trim is in, you can see the cap next to it. I use a full can of gas and after a minute it starts spitting out the end into the collection jar. When it's done I blow down the pipe for a bit to get the last dregs through and I'm done. This has to be done outside obviously.

Leave the jar to evaporate in the shed for a day and then put the plastic cap in the freezer for a couple of hours. I just bend the plastic and the hard oil lifts up and peels away.

I suppose ultimately there would be no differecne in potency between hash and oil from the same trim but hash is a bit more user friendly.
Can't beat a BHO blueberry muffin though. Yummy

and the pc gods rain down honey oil upon us!! thanks v12, very straight forward. i like the freezing part, makes it seem easier to deal with when done.

v12, i'm currently in the process of making a pc grow box, probably never gonna be as good as yours but when i'm done i'll post some pics up or something.

My question is, what strains do you grow in there? i'm not sure what i'd be able to fit in for the entire cycle, as i have no where else to grow it.

Thanks dude

Thanks serious.
I guess the short answer is that Ice Cream and Northern Lights both do really well in a case , they stay short, flower quickly and are both potent strains.
If you aren't running a perpetual then 12/12 from seed combined with LST should tame just about anything, but for my little perpetual I need stuff that finishes in 60 days or less.
Just remember that some breeders might not be totally honest with their descriptions and flower times

Awesome, thanks man

how do you mean perpetual?

What do you think of my attempt at a pc grow case? I'm gonna be installing another reflector on the left when i get more bulbs and general materials so i'll straighten the current one up when the new one's in. The reflectors can be raised and lowered when needs be

either it's me or the image didn't link properly...

here's another attempt

Hey serious.
Nice case. I'm not sure there's enough light in there though, it doesn't look like it's fully covering all 5 of those seedlings and bigger plants will need a lot more. Once you up the lighting you might want to open up that front air intake again to help cool things down.

yeah man, i've got another 5 lamps, i just have no means of connecting them at the moment, can't find any lamp fittings which sucks. i'm working on it though

Maybe it's worth looking at bigger bulbs. Here's a link with some decent sized cfl's:
http://www.bltdirect.com/products.php?cat=48&nm=Energy+Saving+Spiral+lamp

yeah i'm aiming to get bigger and better, it's just i have literally no money at the moment :/ broke my leg and missed out on two months of work so far.

At the moment i have 4 18 watt ( 100 watt eqv.) and two 11 watt (60 watt eqv.) but as i say, i need some roses to actually power them.

Do you have a CO2 generator in your build/are they worth it?

Hope you get things sorted out soon serious.
There's no point using CO2 in my grow. I need the fans on constantly when the lights go on so it would just get blown straight out. CO2 really needs the exhaust to be turned off to get the levels up.

Just looked in on the girls so I got a couple of pics. Trinity is finally showing some red pistils but the trichs are still a way off yet, she's at day 63 today. That main cola on Monica is showing real promise though and she's already starting to change colour.
I need to make a decision on the smaller 2 though, the baby needs repotting urgently and there just isn't any room because Dusty and Trinity have taken so long. Not sure if I should pull the baby and put a NL in her place to keep my momentum going, or sling the other plant outside to reveg. I should be ok to plant outdoors from Tuesday but I'm not sure I want to keep this line going. I guess I'll work it out on Tuesday.

your progress is inspiring, and your input is very helpful.
Thank you

You are most kind GF.

those girls are lookin juicy.

Thanks fs. Link me to those Qwerkle pics when you get them.
All is not rosy in the garden today though. Check this:

It looks like I've got some new residents in my grow. I watered last night and as usual I collected the runoff for disposal but I noticed something on the top of the water that I wanted to check out properly this morning. Now I've had a good look it seems I'm just about to be overrun by the dreaded thrips
Here's a pic of what I saw on the surface of the water and a closeup of the little bastards enjoying a swim:



I'm very careful when it comes to the grow environment. I don't even wear any clothes when I check on my girls, so the only outside element that could have brought them in is the coco or the root riot and I've already ruled out the root riot. There's a possibility that they were already in the coco when I bought it and they have been dormant over the winter, or maybe they jumped aboard the big bag while I had it open to take some out while I repotted 1 of the plants. Either way I'm convinced that's where they came from.
I just put the jug in the microwave for a minute and that's killed these little buggers off but I've got at least 1 pot in the grow that must be full of them.
Plan of attack then is to decant 2 litres of coco from the big bag each time I need it and to pop that in the micro for 5 minutes before use. I will also get hold of some Genius neem oil tonight or tomorrow and water with that until I'm clear. Fingers crossed I can sort this shit out before it takes a real toll.
Wish me luck.