@thecosmicgoat : I never saw any crinkled leaf phenos out of the 8 beans of NL x C99 I have popped.
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GiovanniJones
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Sorry for the dumb question, but can anyone explain (maybe with pics if necessary) what exactly a crinkled leaf looks like?
Thanks.
Thanks.
thecosmicgoat
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Harry Bonanza
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Thanks that’s great info! Sorry I’m just catching up now after a busy 7 days. The idea of creating my own seed collection is very intriguing. I’m sitting here with my seeds right now trying to figure out which ones to pop first. I figure it’s this batch that will end up outdoors so I’m not going to dust any of those. Light pollution has caused me some hermie problems in the past. I’m excited to see if Mikes genetics can power through the pollutionI'm still learning, so consider this only a small part of your research.
This was the first time I've pollinated an entire plant. Previously I've only done branches. I've got 100-200 seeds numerous times from one branch.
I've read, and early experience bears it out, that the more seeds a plant produces the smaller they are likely to be. Too early to be sure though.
These are a couple bought seeds on the left and mine on the right(can't recall if NL or BBxNL). My C99xBB are as small or smaller than the ones on the left.
I put them in a paper envelope for a couple weeks, remove as much debris as possible and put them in amber glass vials. Vials are in an enclosed container and kept in the dark. My collection is only about 4 or so years old(the older ones are all purchased) and I've never had a problem with germination. I haven't refrigerated.
Harry Bonanza
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Decision made. Soak is on
Northern Skunk
Sweet C99
Texada Skunk x C99.
Northern Skunk
Sweet C99
Texada Skunk x C99.
Harry Bonanza
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Added some coconut water to the mix and after 24 hour soak and 24 hours in paper towel I have 28 of 30 popped. I expect to see the other 2 later on today. Exciting times!
Harry Bonanza
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Morning growers. %100 germination on all 30 seeds. I waited until evening to get them into soil and that was longer than I’d like. They were all at least 1/2” long and delicious. Question I have is does anybody ever start in cells instead of cups. I went with a 50 cell tray just for space purposes on the heat mat. I figure 2-3 weeks? Will they be a giant pain to transplant? I’m not worried about a couple days recovery. No race just having fun.
Saboo the Shaman
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Seven days later, PSBC Blueberry, 51fHere's a little blueberry, grown in about a 4L container. It was flipped shortly after the clone rooted. Hoping for no foxtails on this one. This is 44f.
The angle is to show the small pot this girl is in. Yellow item for scale, I imagine someone will recognize it.
Really nice girl you have there looking goodSeven days later, PSBC Blueberry, 51f
The angle is to show the small pot this girl is in. Yellow item for scale, I imagine someone will recognize it.
Im starting to think small pots if timed correctly can steer the plant into flowering more quickly after flip and shorten internodal spacing. More bud sites , less space. Of course this would only work with coco or rockwool. And you have to be flooding every couple hours.
Saboo the Shaman
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Another week has passed and she's still swelling. PSBC blueberry 58f.
Saboo the Shaman
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And the first of the SB X BB backcross, twisted leaves and all. 
Harry Bonanza
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Another week has passed and she's still swelling. PSBC blueberry 58f.
Looking pretty! How many days do they usually go? Also very excited to see the SB x BB through. I’ve tried to go back and see your light setup. Do you just take the domes off and how many do you have? I’m very close to buying the spider farmer 2000Another week has passed and she's still swelling. PSBC blueberry 58f.
Saboo the Shaman
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Thank you.
Previous batches of PSBC BB seeds(and the website) say this is an 8-9 week strain. When I bought these ones however, the label on the little black envelope said 9-10 weeks; he must've changed out a parent. This pheno takes a solid 10+ weeks. I've retired the mother and am searching for a faster replacement.
The little 2x2 tent these are in has a 4x5 socket fixture. I puncture the globe and then use snips or scissors to remove it. Many people remove the entire globe, but I leave 3/16" or so as a mini reflector and to make it easy to spot dead lights without having to stare into the eye-melters.
Re your intended purchase, I have lost touch with current LED tech as I don't believe they offer value in comparison.
Here's a quick and dirty worksheet comparing the performance of a well known and respected LED, the HLG 100 V2
The HLG 100v2 produces about 156 lumen/watt per the HLG website(15000/96) for over $200CAD shipped.
200/15000=$0.01333 or 1.3 cents per lumen
Seven x 15w SILs =105 watts (1550 lum ea before removing globe)
Cost of mat'l inc SIL bulbs <$30
7*1550=10850 + 10%(approximation for removal of globes)=11935 lumens
30/11935=$0.00251 or 0.2 cents/lumen
1550+10%= 1705 lumens
1705/15 =113.66 lumens/watt
Notes:
I know lumen are not PAR. I worked with the information available.
The 10% increase in directional intensity was pulled out of my butt. I know intensity increases, but not by how much.
Assuming the above figures are reasonably correct, SILs are ~28% less intense(43/156) but cost 69% less (9/13)
Between initial set-up price, maintenance and area coverage, I couldn't be happier with SILs and have no desire to change.
The above was to provide information and provoke discussion. It was not intended to denigrate or disrepect any person or company.
Previous batches of PSBC BB seeds(and the website) say this is an 8-9 week strain. When I bought these ones however, the label on the little black envelope said 9-10 weeks; he must've changed out a parent. This pheno takes a solid 10+ weeks. I've retired the mother and am searching for a faster replacement.
The little 2x2 tent these are in has a 4x5 socket fixture. I puncture the globe and then use snips or scissors to remove it. Many people remove the entire globe, but I leave 3/16" or so as a mini reflector and to make it easy to spot dead lights without having to stare into the eye-melters.
Re your intended purchase, I have lost touch with current LED tech as I don't believe they offer value in comparison.
Here's a quick and dirty worksheet comparing the performance of a well known and respected LED, the HLG 100 V2
The HLG 100v2 produces about 156 lumen/watt per the HLG website(15000/96) for over $200CAD shipped.
200/15000=$0.01333 or 1.3 cents per lumen
Seven x 15w SILs =105 watts (1550 lum ea before removing globe)
Cost of mat'l inc SIL bulbs <$30
7*1550=10850 + 10%(approximation for removal of globes)=11935 lumens
30/11935=$0.00251 or 0.2 cents/lumen
1550+10%= 1705 lumens
1705/15 =113.66 lumens/watt
Notes:
I know lumen are not PAR. I worked with the information available.
The 10% increase in directional intensity was pulled out of my butt. I know intensity increases, but not by how much.
Assuming the above figures are reasonably correct, SILs are ~28% less intense(43/156) but cost 69% less (9/13)
Between initial set-up price, maintenance and area coverage, I couldn't be happier with SILs and have no desire to change.
The above was to provide information and provoke discussion. It was not intended to denigrate or disrepect any person or company.
Rivendell
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I use SILs as well, and agree 100% with your statements.Thank you.
Previous batches of PSBC BB seeds(and the website) say this is an 8-9 week strain. When I bought these ones however, the label on the little black envelope said 9-10 weeks; he must've changed out a parent. This pheno takes a solid 10+ weeks. I've retired the mother and am searching for a faster replacement.
The little 2x2 tent these are in has a 4x5 socket fixture. I puncture the globe and then use snips or scissors to remove it. Many people remove the entire globe, but I leave 3/16" or so as a mini reflector and to make it easy to spot dead lights without having to stare into the eye-melters.
Re your intended purchase, I have lost touch with current LED tech as I don't believe they offer value in comparison.
Here's a quick and dirty worksheet comparing the performance of a well known and respected LED, the HLG 100 V2
The HLG 100v2 produces about 156 lumen/watt per the HLG website(15000/96) for over $200CAD shipped.
200/15000=$0.01333 or 1.3 cents per lumen
Seven x 15w SILs =105 watts (1550 lum ea before removing globe)
Cost of mat'l inc SIL bulbs <$30
7*1550=10850 + 10%(approximation for removal of globes)=11935 lumens
30/11935=$0.00251 or 0.2 cents/lumen
1550+10%= 1705 lumens
1705/15 =113.66 lumens/watt
Notes:
I know lumen are not PAR. I worked with the information available.
The 10% increase in directional intensity was pulled out of my butt. I know intensity increases, but not by how much.
Assuming the above figures are reasonably correct, SILs are ~28% less intense(43/156) but cost 69% less (9/13)
Between initial set-up price, maintenance and area coverage, I couldn't be happier with SILs and have no desire to change.
The above was to provide information and provoke discussion. It was not intended to denigrate or disrepect any person or company.
Harry Bonanza
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That’s a lot of awesome info man thanks for not only sharing but for putting in the work. I have a dozen extra bulbs you had me thinking about but now I’m sold. Possibilities seem endless nowThank you.
Previous batches of PSBC BB seeds(and the website) say this is an 8-9 week strain. When I bought these ones however, the label on the little black envelope said 9-10 weeks; he must've changed out a parent. This pheno takes a solid 10+ weeks. I've retired the mother and am searching for a faster replacement.
The little 2x2 tent these are in has a 4x5 socket fixture. I puncture the globe and then use snips or scissors to remove it. Many people remove the entire globe, but I leave 3/16" or so as a mini reflector and to make it easy to spot dead lights without having to stare into the eye-melters.
Re your intended purchase, I have lost touch with current LED tech as I don't believe they offer value in comparison.
Here's a quick and dirty worksheet comparing the performance of a well known and respected LED, the HLG 100 V2
The HLG 100v2 produces about 156 lumen/watt per the HLG website(15000/96) for over $200CAD shipped.
200/15000=$0.01333 or 1.3 cents per lumen
Seven x 15w SILs =105 watts (1550 lum ea before removing globe)
Cost of mat'l inc SIL bulbs <$30
7*1550=10850 + 10%(approximation for removal of globes)=11935 lumens
30/11935=$0.00251 or 0.2 cents/lumen
1550+10%= 1705 lumens
1705/15 =113.66 lumens/watt
Notes:
I know lumen are not PAR. I worked with the information available.
The 10% increase in directional intensity was pulled out of my butt. I know intensity increases, but not by how much.
Assuming the above figures are reasonably correct, SILs are ~28% less intense(43/156) but cost 69% less (9/13)
Between initial set-up price, maintenance and area coverage, I couldn't be happier with SILs and have no desire to change.
The above was to provide information and provoke discussion. It was not intended to denigrate or disrepect any person or company.
Saboo the Shaman
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You are welcome. I look forward to seeing your results.
I like math, and I like backing up my claims, so this was all good.
Harry Bonanza
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Seeing as we’re talking numbers.....is 7 a magic number? Is that a max load kind of thing without needing a driver? I’m thinking I’ll need 14 bulbs to cover my tent space.
Saboo the Shaman
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First and foremost, anything I say about anything electrical is for information only. I take no responsibility for anything anyone else does. Do your own homework and keep yourself safe.
No, I used 7 in the example because that gave around 100 watts total, making the comparison to the HLG 100 as close to apple to apple as possible.
Look at the wattage rating on the wiring you use and divide that by the number of bulbs and that will tell you the max. It shouldn't be an issue. For example if you are using wire rated for a maximum of 600 watts and you have 15 watt bulbs, 600/15=max of 40 bulbs on that wire. You don't want to be pushing the limits so give yourself a margin of safety.
Harry Bonanza
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Again great info and thank you. I do understand how you need to be careful sharing info when it comes to such things. I’m trying to free up wattage taken by my 600w HPS. Your info is great but your pics are the pudding. You seem to really have it dialed in. I’ve been vegging under 6500k daylight bulbs the last two grows with great results. Now keep in mind I’m high every time I’m here so I’m sorry if this is a dumb question.....you say you have a 4x5 light fixture in your 2x2. What do you mean my 4x5 fixture?
Edit: And to keep this Peak related I’ve now got at least 3 maybe 5 other guys running Peak strains outdoors this summer. Should be fun!