Perpetual Auto Chunking 2013-2014

I'll start off by saying Hi!
Well I guess i can get straight to the point. This project is going to be done on the fly so propossed crosses at this point are hypothetical and may be changed at any point or time.

medium will be soil/soiless blend
havent decided on party cups or 5" square pots that decision will be made when i get to it
nutes technaflora at the moment but will more then likely go with organic nutes in near future
grow space is a 3'X4'X5'
lighting
2X 135w led's 3w diodes 4 band and 7 band
400w lumatek high par hps 2000k in a 6" cooltube
have 400w of 68w 2700k cfl's if needed

First round

Afghan kush ryder fem Indica heavy pheno x spyder male Grape soda pheno ( in process )

Afghan kush ryder fem Sativa heavy pheno S1 ( in process )



Second round

Royal queens Northern lights auto fem x freedom of seeds " A little Kushy" X 2 ( seedling stage ATM) the NL is getting CS at preflower . the Kushy is a reg seed so if its male i will pollinate some of the NL if its female then its getting fem pollen from the NL

NL S1
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NL left , kushy right other one just popped no point in pics

Third round

Kc-45 reg seeds X 10 planted same time and best auto male of short stature and fast flower will be kept and crossed
all other males will be culled and info logged on all females
this strains is supposed to be unstable. So first selection is just to insure the auto trait for when its bred in the future.
All non auto's or slow to show pheno's will be culled

(Have seeds on the way to add to this round and have yet to decide what else to put in this spot )


After the first 3 crosses
6 seeds from each batch will be planted
all will be grown out and have a branch seeded by the best male
the best 2 females will be fully pollinated

Process will be repeated 3 times
and then the best female stock chosen
will be bred in the same manner
im just going to pick the best looking ones from each round regardless
of what strain is dominant in the visual traits





Goals


Short term

1.Not have to buy seeds
2.Have fun and learn something

Long term

1. Short stature
2.High yielding
3.Potent
4.Must respond well to super cropping/heavy stress training

this is the AKR getting cs
AKR x spy

Rite on.. Gl bro

akr x spy didnt take
too early poll. or the fact it was in a party cup for 5 weeks/flowering and transplanted to a 1 gal the shock may of done it

this is the AKR getting CS Please excuse the shitty cam phone + 15x loupe pics all i have
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Lovely tek...I have sum dinafem blue cheese x kens og kush and WOS nl xbb auto also to the og as well...tryna see how many turn out on the auto side this is my first go breeding and learning as well good luck on the offsprings n u looking good man nice set up

my box is so thrown together its not even funny
real poor mans growing >.<
i know the S1/ fem pollen will turn out pretty babies with almost whatever i cross it with
just waiting on the sacks to mature
going to cross this with one of the kc-45 i have going and use it on a branch of the NL and the little kushy if it ever does anything its a slow mover and a triple node mutant with zig zag growth at 2 weeks >.<

pretty sure that some of the pollen sacks have popped red hairs starting to show 50-75% or so

Lol..thats the whole point to the grow room when indoor gardening to me...I change my room around every other month ...I use 600 mh only..my room doesn't even look anywhere close to when I started...wat are my odds with a reg photo x fem auto...getting a male auto offsprings? To me autos are so useful. .when u vegn a photo for 2months an auto could almost be done In that same time period..then in that same room when you swith to flower you can harvest that auto and start a new one on 12/12 with the photo..and by the time you harvest the auto and photo the other auto should be nicely dryed n cured..mmm love autos! I Wanna use the og pollen on certain autos and see if I can keep the auto trait while adding more flavor n some potentcy..but more concerned with adding the og flavor

ImaSourDfiend said:

Lol..thats the whole point to the grow room when indoor gardening to me...I change my room around every other month ...I use 600 mh only..my room doesn't even look anywhere close to when I started...wat are my odds with a reg photo x fem auto...getting a male auto offsprings? To me autos are so useful. .when u vegn a photo for 2months an auto could almost be done In that same time period..then in that same room when you swith to flower you can harvest that auto and start a new one on 12/12 with the photo..and by the time you harvest the auto and photo the other auto should be nicely dryed n cured..mmm love autos! I Wanna use the og pollen on certain autos and see if I can keep the auto trait while adding more flavor n some potentcy..but more concerned with adding the og flavor

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auto x photo = 0 auto's around 100% of the time from what i understand
( A x P ) x A = 5-20% or something like that

numbers are off the top of my head
you would have to breed them out a few times 5-9 cycles if i remember right

i used 68w cfl's for years
led's are dirt cheap now so i added a few 135w led's
then still wasnt getting the ideal yield results even though the led's helped tremendously with the fluffy cfl bud syndrome they didnt yield
so i added a cool tube to the mix and BAM
12/12 400w 2000 k high par hps
24/0 270w of mixed spec led
12/12 of 360+ w cfl 2700k 68w
hps at night cfl's during the day

pretty sure thats a seed so im assuming its from the spyder pollen and not from the S1 its seems to far along to be from this

Ok...imma give it a shot and keep breeding it back to the auto...ahhh man so all my NL x BB auto X og pollen wont net any auto offsprings..ahh shucks..ok jus hit hit it back to the auto and itll increase my chances..so auto x male photo..then keep going back to the auto until it stabilize ok im in it to win it! I have a led...but the mh give me pretty nugs...there are always light green covered n trich u barely see any red hairs..that y I switched from hps..my nugs where green but full of orange hairs n that was jus a 250 when I switched to 600mh the nugs are super dense look so icy! Looks like a snowcone...I started off on cfl but it took foreverrrrrrrrr to flower and veg n had temp problems. ..built a bigger box n dont have a inline fan...jus a regular 10 buck box fan n temps stay at 80 when lights on...I still loved to use my cfls they are perfect for veg. Have you tryed the barney sweet tooth auto?

ya its one of my favorites
that and dinafem original amnesia auto
barneys newer stuff is really good
but dinafem if you can afford it
when you get them dialed in OMG amazeballs lol

I can't wait to see your end product tek! So since your breeding photos with autos, is there a chance they will take on the photo trait and no longer autoflower? 5 starred and sub'd good luck bro!

im breeding already stable auto's
so i should be fine
sourD is wanting to cross a photo in
that would require alot more time to lock in

Ahhh man i wanna run barney sweet tooth auto again...one was massive I grew n a 5 gallon bucket..one died I over watered it as a seedling..n the final one was only 2 ounces n the 5 gallon bucket as well but it was stinky than all my photo reg ..stinkier, stickier and even turned purple...I was tryna figure out the bad rep it got when googled..idk but I had great luck, but tangerine dream is not allowed on my premises at all! I wanna put a restraining order against that strain..maybe I had a bad seed...after some thought im going to try the photo to auto and see wat happens..og kush takes forever and if I can get a good stable auto breed n have the og taste im satisfied. ..Dinafem does have great autos as well i have the blue cheese going and sampled sum early and the flavor is great.

barneys has great genetics
sweet tooth looks like glass when you peel the buds apart
that being said
1 out of 5 -8 pheno's are just fucking dud's and if you get 2 or 3 of those in a row i could understand bashing them a bit

I understand...thats how I feel about tangerine dream...also change of plans...im jus going to enjoy watever come out of the f1s..bcuz its free! Dont have time to try n lock down an ibl auto...maybe n the future...but def not this year and next...I have some gsc pure gooey og grape krypt I wanna grow out n enjoy but I always need an auto to go alone side of the photos...so would b nice to have a og auto...I know I would love to see how your cross gonna come out..im tuned in

im just going to try and preserve good genetics that i encounter this upcoming year
whether its from crossing it with pollen on hand or using CS
just picking them on the fly you know whatever i think i want to keep around