Petition To Change The Insult Rule To Malicious Harassment (Or Something Like That.)

And therein lies the folly of your efforts. I'm sorry you dislike dissenting opinion, but calling it idiotic is silly. every post of mine in this thread has been in response to other posts that quoted me. I'm sorry you interpret it as harassing. You just proved that you can't be trusted to determine what a troll is.... after all, idiotic, fool, idiot are words you use for anyone that doesn't agree with you.... surely you'll just add "troll" to that list of names....

Follow the rules or get out... pretty simple.

poplars said:

look what is such the big deal with telling trolls or members who deserve it to fuck off or they're a prick tool douche etc. as long as I'm not harrassing you crossing boundries?

if anything you're harassing me by continuing to reiterate your shit point in my thread.

but because there is no rule against someone posting in someone elses thread if that person doesn't like it, I should retain the right to defend myself against your idiotic presumptions.

I don't want more bashing, wtf. you gotta realize stifling emotion is not the answer... insults are a part of life, and the internet, it is personal attacks that are malicious that should NOT be tolerated.

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budlover13 said:

Wo this threads going faster than i can read!

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Fuckin' ay, no fuckin shit!

ok I think I really can't say anymore here I'm likely to not be agreed with in the end.

While Charlie Sheen may have some hilarious things to say and was entertaining, he was kind of like a troll to the media world, trying to get a rise out of everyone and, in turn, getting popularity. Most of the people ended up just ignoring his antics and his short popularity died off. Then when you look at the people that booed him at his show, while they might have been doing it in hopes he would stop, it just fueled his fire and kept him wanting to do more shows. Trolls feed off of haters, it is what they thrive for, they want people to hate them.

poplars said:

ok I think I really can't say anymore here I'm likely to not be agreed with in the end.

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There are more than a few people I've wanted to call idiots, all of them are on my ignore list

poplars said:

hah what do you think we're going to become a cursing mayhem crazy place??

look you're jumping around in logical games and this isn't working so I"ll go at it this way...


what we're doing now is NOT working.... defending eachother against trolls will. simple. they are exploiting the insult rule so they can get people to blow up and get banned...

SIMPLE.

why do you think it's alright that if I blow up on a troll I'm banned and the troll isn't? I don't care how logically you can make that sound that doesn't sound right.

in real life if someone taunts you and you punch them, the person who taunted gets in trouble too, doesn't make the person who punched that guy all good, but he doesn't get in as much trouble as he would if he just walked up and punched a guy for no reason.

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How about the moderators just moderate them like they're supposed to then.. why not offer to go around protecting other members by modding trolls.

And yes, this is just one post discussing the rules and all you ahve done is runaround telling anyone who disagree's with your idea to fuck off because they're a troll. I see this as an utterly stupid idea. I don't know what i'm doing wrong, but i seem to be able to ignore or reply to trolls just fine without having to try and insult them or getting myself banned, it's not very diffiult to do.

At the end of the day, the way it appears to me is that you're sour because trolls get away with swearing at people so you want to be able to do it as well, because this will somehoe = a win, i really don't understand what if ANYTHING being able to swear at people will achieve.


troll: hahahahaha your plants are shit
user: fuck you troll
troll: um fuck you too, your plants look shit
user: umm, fuck you?

How does the ability to swear back help anything?

poplars said:

apples and oranges.

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How so. You have invoked false dichotomy:
(either-or fallacy) Recommended by tongues
An argument where only two choices are given when there are in fact more.
Examples:
"You're either with us or with the terrorists."
"Either love your country with all it's problems or leave it."

And:


Ad baculum (appeal to the stick or force)
An argument where force, coercion, or the threat of force is used to justify the conclusion.
Examples:
"If you don't repent your sins you will burn for eternity in hell, therefore you MUST repent."
"Don't argue with the king's policies or he will lock you up and toss away the key. Therefore keep your mouth shut."


So please, tell me how apples or oranges are different, without turning to Ad Baculum.

We're trying to fight fire with fire

Except the instigator has a Bic and we have a flamethrower

Troll: your plants look like shit
Everone else: fuck off we all hate you
Troll: Its like high school all over again

poplars said:

ok I think I really can't say anymore here I'm likely to not be agreed with in the end.

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Nah man, say what you want, that's your freedom, just don't expect people to take kindly to you telling them to fuck off, whether they are right or wrong in your eyes, if someone told you to fuck off for stating your opinion then you would go back at them, right? I welcome your opinion here man, it's your thread and you can say what you want, all I am saying is don't expect people to just shrug off you continuously telling them to fuck off, especially when the insults and everything is a sensitive subject right now in this thread...

You do you man and I'll back you up when I agree, just like I would with anything else I agree with, I will back it up, but if I don't agree with something then I am going to state why I disagree but not going to try changing that person's opinion. If someone is set in their ways then I am not going to waste my time trying to get them to be on my team, I am just going to hangout with my team and smoke them out you are welcome to join in on this joint I just rolled

I love you RIU.

poplars said:

ok I think I really can't say anymore here I'm likely to not be agreed with in the end.

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Not my intent poplars. Just tone down the rhettoric a little. As was said earlier. Give 'em a reaction and they love it.

Then you'll both get burned.... just ignore the trolls, or stoop to their level...

Xrtnfx said:

We're trying to fight fire with fire

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The Cryptkeeper said:

I love you RIU.

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Go away troll with your idiotic statements... Whos with me!

Serapis said:

Then you'll both get burned.... just ignore the trolls, or stoop to their level...

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No! Quote the whole thing about the flamethrower and highschool!

Um, i odn't think you understand what trolls are. The more negative feedback and outroar and commotion they cause the better, they are not taking retorts to heart, they are just laughing and poking harder. If they get banned, they just make another account, if you get banned, you all get your knickers in a twist. He wins every time, there are ten thousand pictures around the web stating DON'T FEED THE TROLL for a reason, it's a method that works...

See, poplars. At this point in this thread, i agree whole-heartedly that the trolls can FUCK OFF! But that's my opinion in life too. i am only influenced by their negativity and stress and sickness if I own it. And in reality, it's not mine to own.

SO, as a result of not your argument but the way in which you presented it, i have not signed the petition even though i agree the basis of it. To promote a cool online community. Because i get a bitter taste in my mouth when i see ANYONE using

Ad lapidem (throwing stones)
Dismissing a statement as absurd without giving reason why it is absurd.
Examples:
"You don't believe in a divine being? That's just fuckin' retarded!"
"You don't think marijuana is addictive? Are you crazy!? Pull your head out of your ass."

And

loaded question
Asking a question that presupposes something that isn't yet proven.
Examples:
"Do you still beat children up with baseball bats?"
"Why is Obama afraid to admit he was born in Kenya?"


Along with other negative tactics.

Other than this thread please show my posts that may be considered trolling.....

To many get their panties in a wad over the internet.......is life really that pathetic?

If i'm a goon den you a googan..........just fucked your entire week up huh??????????????

tip top toker said:

Um, i odn't think you understand what trolls are. The more negative feedback and outroar and commotion they cause the better, they are not taking retorts to heart, they are just laughing and poking harder. If they get banned, they just make another account, if you get banned, you all get your knickers in a twist. He wins every time, there are ten thousand pictures around the web stating DON'T FEED THE TROLL for a reason, it's a method that works...

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See I'm not sure If i am a troll or not. I say things but I try and word them so people can tell I am joking with them, sometimes they cannot tell however

Dankster4Life said:

Other than this thread please show my posts that may be considered trolling.....

To many get their panties in a wad over the internet.......is life really that pathetic?

If i'm a goon den you a googan..........just fucked your entire week up huh??????????????

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It would have if I knew what a googan was... If I google that and it's something mean you're in trouble

Xrtnfx said:

See I'm not sure If i am a troll or not. I say things but I try and word them so people can tell I am joking with them, sometimes they cannot tell however

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One of the biggest problems with all the arguments on RIU is people's lack of being able to tell tone on here, if only there were more obvious ways to show jokes haha