PGR Weed

Mirrordawn

Mirrordawn

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Here in Australia, PGR weed is really rampant and dominates most of the market. It is run by gang peddling other serious narcotics. Because of the absurdity of cannabis laws in Australia, this product continually exists on the market.

Is the situation that same in North America? Has recreational legality(in some states) put PGR in its place? What about the rest of the globe?
If so, do you think the same thing is most likely to happen here in Australia?
 
ilovereggae

ilovereggae

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Mirrordawn said:
Here in Australia, PGR weed is really rampant and dominates most of the market. It is run by gang peddling other serious narcotics. Because of the absurdity of cannabis laws in Australia, this product continually exists on the market.

Is the situation that same in North America? Has recreational legality(in some states) put PGR in its place? What about the rest of the globe?
If so, do you think the same thing is most likely to happen here in Australia?
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I dont go into the shops much nowadays but when I first moved to LA about 5 yrs ago, id say 1/2 of the shops in the city were shitty PGR hydro that all tasted the same regardless of strain. Pretty sure they were all controlled by some criminal enterprise bc as soon as one location got busted they would just reopen 2 blocks away the next week.

Most of that seems to have disappeared once recreational got passed. At first all the unlicensed shops were just selling either bootleg legit brands or in a lot of cases its just herb that failed pesticide tests for the legal market. Eventually they did mass raids and there are none left near where I live in West LA. Used to be at least 10 in a 2 mile radius. Now there like 4 legit shops in that same area, and a bunch of delivery only services.

However I wouldnt put your faith into legalization solving everything.. herb on the legal market doesn't seem to be full of PGRs, but for the most part its 4-6 months post harvest old just bc of supply chain slowness. Sometimes you can find fresh real high grade but for most of the herb they sell in shops is pretty bad and overpriced. Theres some decent light dep greenhouse herb that sells for about half of what the indoor sells for.

I am all about promoting people growing their own. That is the only way we will have any say or control going forward.
 
Nutty sKunK

Nutty sKunK

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mad_jet said:
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PGR: The Toxic Chemicals in Your Marijuana - Friendly Aussie Buds

Let's talk about PGR: Plant Growth Regulators. Has it ever occurred to you that the weed you’re smoking may actually be packed full of toxic chemica
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Deffo smoke that in my younger days - use to call it chinky weed.

Also we had stuff coated in glass going around our town. That was the worst thing about living in the sticks.

Now I have my own space I grow organically and have never smoked that shite since.
 
Shooey

Shooey

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It’s a great case for legislation! In its purest form weed is beautifully balanced. It’s much safer to consume and that should always be encouraged right?? You wouldn’t eat a jar of food with no ingredients label, so why should people have to consume bud with unknown additives, simply because there isn’t another option (metro areas). It’s especially bad for our young people as it compromises the thc/cbd ratios resulting in a more psychoactive and addictive product! Time for AUS to get real on this. The number of people who enjoy a smoke hasn’t ever changed since weed existed. It’s not going anywhere, so let’s get it happening, give people the change to grow or buy a safe product
 
Mirrordawn

Mirrordawn

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ilovereggae said:
I dont go into the shops much nowadays but when I first moved to LA about 5 yrs ago, id say 1/2 of the shops in the city were shitty PGR hydro that all tasted the same regardless of strain. Pretty sure they were all controlled by some criminal enterprise bc as soon as one location got busted they would just reopen 2 blocks away the next week.

Most of that seems to have disappeared once recreational got passed. At first all the unlicensed shops were just selling either bootleg legit brands or in a lot of cases its just herb that failed pesticide tests for the legal market. Eventually they did mass raids and there are none left near where I live in West LA. Used to be at least 10 in a 2 mile radius. Now there like 4 legit shops in that same area, and a bunch of delivery only services.

However I wouldnt put your faith into legalization solving everything.. herb on the legal market doesn't seem to be full of PGRs, but for the most part its 4-6 months post harvest old just bc of supply chain slowness. Sometimes you can find fresh real high grade but for most of the herb they sell in shops is pretty bad and overpriced. Theres some decent light dep greenhouse herb that sells for about half of what the indoor sells for.

I am all about promoting people growing their own. That is the only way we will have any say or control going forward.
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Lots of great info here thanks for the such a response. It will be interesting to see how the street market will adapt when prohibition fades away, not in my life time though.

Nutty sKunK said:
PGR?
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Plant Growth Regulator for short, overly red weed with terrible smell and taste. Smells like a laundry hamper and visually the chlorophyll of the plant is mutated ... It's fucken sacrilege. They usually use the chemical to stop trees on the footpath(sidewalk) from growing into power lines. Extremely toxic chemical that has been forbidden in agriculture.
 
Mirrordawn

Mirrordawn

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mad_jet said:
It’s brutal in WA. Pretty much everything is PGR shit here.
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Now more than ever my man, its heart breaking

Shooey said:
It’s a great case for legislation! In its purest form weed is beautifully balanced. It’s much safer to consume and that should always be encouraged right?? You wouldn’t eat a jar of food with no ingredients label, so why should people have to consume bud with unknown additives, simply because there isn’t another option (metro areas). It’s especially bad for our young people as it compromises the thc/cbd ratios resulting in a more psychoactive and addictive product! Time for AUS to get real on this. The number of people who enjoy a smoke hasn’t ever changed since weed existed. It’s not going anywhere, so let’s get it happening, give people the change to grow or buy a safe product
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The government doesn't give a fuck about our health! They would rather it be illegal so they continue to give this illusion that the war on drugs is working. They don't care, they haven't figured out how to regulate it without losing the countries biggest income ... Good ol BHP OIL, As long as those motherfuckers wear the crown, ain't gonna be good weed in this place unless you grow it yourself.

Want to try white widow? Well you gotta wait for the seeds to ship(if they ship) then you gotta grow the plant, and dry it plus cure it. That's a whole season you gotta wait to try white widow. However that's a everyday reality here in WA! It's a challenge, but fuck it ...
 
CannaOnerStar

CannaOnerStar

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mad_jet said:
Should not be this easy to get....

https://glandorehydro.com/shop/additives/cyco-a-1ltr-pgr/
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Yea they also seem to sell brix +, which is basically microplastics you dip your weed in for it to gain more weight. Not only is not smoking plastics good ever, but im pretty sure that the crap they use in this is even the type of plastics that disrupt hormonal systems(its been many years since i looked into it). You know the type of stuff that make frogs and fishes hermie and cause infertility and all that good stuff.

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Brix + | Glandore Hydroponics | Hydro & Indoor Gardening Supplies - Online Store Australia

Brix plus is a unique formula designed to achieve maximum yield. Scientifically designed using only the best ingredients. Brix plus is …... Glandore Hydroponics is one of Australia's premier hydroponics retail stores. Offering the latest & greatest products and advice both in-store and online.
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Im sure that the PGR has some other proper uses, but this brix crap is being produced only to poison weed for little extra profits. I do think that PGRs like that should not be readily available, but i get why they exist since they are likely used for other stuff in horticulture. They should be sold under license, which im sure is the case in most countries.
 
Mirrordawn

Mirrordawn

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CannaOnerStar said:
Yea they also seem to sell brix +, which is basically microplastics you dip your weed in for it to gain more weight. Not only is not smoking plastics good ever, but im pretty sure that the crap they use in this is even the type of plastics that disrupt hormonal systems(its been many years since i looked into it). You know the type of stuff that make frogs and fishes hermie and cause infertility and all that good stuff.

glandorehydro.com

Brix + | Glandore Hydroponics | Hydro & Indoor Gardening Supplies - Online Store Australia

Brix plus is a unique formula designed to achieve maximum yield. Scientifically designed using only the best ingredients. Brix plus is …... Glandore Hydroponics is one of Australia's premier hydroponics retail stores. Offering the latest & greatest products and advice both in-store and online.
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Im sure that the PGR has some other proper uses, but this brix crap is being produced only to poison weed for little extra profits. I do think that PGRs like that should not be readily available, but i get why they exist since they are likely used for other stuff in horticulture. They should be sold under license, which im sure is the case in most countries.
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Wait... the stuff that made frogs gay?

A license ... like weed? Well look how that turned out :lol:
There should be a place where they sell clean weed and government makes money from it. Wtf why is that such a fantasy????
 
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Brudog

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@CannaOnerStar ....can you better explain your brix theory or info? A link to something explaining or a place one can buy this “brix“ you’re talking about? I’m curious.

I also brew beer and make wine, have for years and have used refractometers to measure brix....which is basically a measurement of sugars in a liquid. Not something that is an ingredient to be dipped in. It’s the level of mostly sugars in a “thing”.

Happy to be schooled with some facts!
 
CannaOnerStar

CannaOnerStar

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Brudog said:
@CannaOnerStar ....can you better explain your brix theory or info? A link to something explaining or a place one can buy this “brix“ you’re talking about? I’m curious.

I also brew beer and make wine, have for years and have used refractometers to measure brix....which is basically a measurement of sugars in a liquid. Not something that is an ingredient to be dipped in. It’s the level of mostly sugars in a “thing”.

Happy to be schooled with some facts!
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I read about it many years ago when it was just becoming a thing, so i dont remember all the details. But basically its microplastics mixed in a liquid and you either spray it on your plants after harvest or dip the whole plants in it. This gives it fake smell that some newbies might think is actual cannabis smell, more weight and buds look like they got more trichomes.

If you look at what some of these microplastics do in living animals, they cause changes to hormonal function among other things like cancer. These hormonal changes can cause frogs and fishes to go hermie and i think they work in similar way as estrogen for men. However how much of that stays the same after being smoked is unknown, it is also unknown if they turn into some even more dangerous crap when heated during smoking.
 
CannaOnerStar

CannaOnerStar

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Mirrordawn said:
Wait... the stuff that made frogs gay?

A license ... like weed? Well look how that turned out :lol:
Their should be a place where they sell clean weed and government makes money from it. Wtf why is that such a fantasy????
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Dunno if you label hermies as gay.

I didnt mean weed licence, but license to buy PGR, so that government could have more control on who buys it. Most likely there are not many companies who actually need it for legit reasons and most is sold to poison cannabis.

Its a fantasy because its not true everywhere and in places where it is illegal, well its because people have been brainwashed to buy into lies for so long, that it has became a norm to be against it and to label everyone as dangerous druggies who defend it. Im sure when the old farts from politics retire little by little and new generations take over, well lets just say that people from younger generations know the truth and would more easily legalise.
 
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Brudog

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Right on. Not sure that’s accurate though. Appreciate the quick response And perspective!

My understanding of plant brix boosters are that they are boosters that are fed to increase sugar concentrations. Most are expensive bottles of molasses (and list it as the main ingredient) and other vitamins Used to sell A $40 bottle of sugar water.
 
CannaOnerStar

CannaOnerStar

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Brudog said:
Right on. Not sure that’s accurate though. Appreciate the quick response And perspective!

My understanding of plant brix boosters are that they are boosters that are fed to increase sugar concentrations. Most are expensive bottles of molasses (and list it as the main ingredient) and other vitamins Used to sell A $40 bottle of sugar water.
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That brix thing is different. The products you are talking about this https://www.dinafem.org/en/blog/brix-degree-value-development-cannabis-plants/ and are named after that.

But the product i linked(which im quite sure is the crap im talking about, i do know there are other different products made for what you talk about of same or similar name) and what i was talking about is called that because it adds artificially a "sugary frost" or something. Also maybe it got the name from it being used in so called brick weed, i think already before that particular product was sold commercially. Hence the name bricks plus, adding weight to brick weed and making it smell and look better for newbies. I think this was the rumour back in the days, but dunno how true it is.
 
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