Ph meeters

Fangthane

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The Apera PH20 was the one "good" pH meter I ever bought. It was also the one that made me say "fuck pH meters." The first one Amazon sent me was clearly used and wouldn't accept calibration at all. The second one wasn't much better. It would calibrate, but jump wildly out of calibration within hours. Sent that one back and bought GH test solution. Haven't really looked back since. Fuck pH meters.
 

MissinThe90’sStrains

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You lost me, I was referring to your comment that Apera uses a type of probe that won’t completely die from drying out and can be reconditioned by soaking in storage solution. I'm asking where that info came from.
 

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Purple love

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You never answered whether you have tried calibrating those two meters... I've used a few of the "cheaper" meters and some work better than others, even two new identical meters - even after calibrating... The cheapo I'm using now is remaining accurate and I keep calibration solution in jars for checking/calibrating...

Just received a "better" multi-meter (pH/PPM/EC) that I will be returning as it seems to have a cold solder joint on the circuit board that is keeping TDS/EC functions from working properly... When switching mode from pH to PPM it may or may not flash a reading for a split second before reverting to zero and only once displayed an EC reading before reverting to zero... Replaced the batteries with new and had the same results...

My advice, always keep new batteries onhand, preferably 357/303 Silver Oxide instead of the cheaper LM44 Alkaline's they come with... The 357/303's last far longer and give steadier readings... Well worth the extra expense...
nope but now that i know am gona get a top ph meter and calibrate it and go that route
 

1212ham

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witch one i went on the site they have multiple ones witch one should i get
Those are two different brands and I don't know which site you went to, your budget, grow medium, or what you are measuring.

The Milwaukee MW102 is around $120, the Apera PH60 is around $80 and their PH20 is $40.

I probably wouldn't bother measuring water ph for living soil.
 

Driver733

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Needs to be at 2.5x the price of the other usual suspects. ;)

When you say 'best' what do you mean? Faster to read, stays calibrated longer, more accurate?
I've been using one for over 2 years now, with no issues. It does ph and tds, stays calibrated, and it works every time. I can replace the ph tip if it ever malfunctions, current cost is $75 on Hanna web site. The total pen price is up to $195 now on the Hanna web site, was $150 when I bought it. If you give your email to the web site, you will get a coupon code for 10% off your first order. That would bring the total down to $175. They are $225 on Amazon. https://www.hannainst.com/hi98129-ph-ec-tds-tester.html

They also have a less expensive option for a ph only pen (no tds) for $118, replacement tips are $59. This is similar to the BlueLabs Ph pen for $85, so $23 more than Hanna. Not too much more money for the quality. See here: https://www.hannainst.com/hi98127-phep4-ph-tester.html

Like everyone else, I wasted my money on the cheap pens first. I bought my Hanna after having issues with the other pens and either sending them back for a refund or just tossing them in the trash. The Hanna was a recommendation of a friend of mine who works in a water testing and analysis lab in the municipal water industry. They use Hanna Instruments in the lab which is how he knew the brand reputation (top of the line). If you look on their web site, you'll see what I mean - some really serious equipment. I had never heard of the brand before talking to my friend.

Like any pen, you cannot let the tip dry out or you will have issues. I use the Hanna storage solution in the pen cap when I take a break from growing, usually during the summer June - August. I make sure the cap is full of fluid, then I store the pen in a 64 oz mason jar with a large humidity pack. This keeps the pen tip from drying out. You will see salt migrate out of the pen cap over time while in the jar, once a month I take the pen out, wash off the salt, make sure the cap has fluid, and return it to the jar. I would recommend doing this when storing any brand ph pen, to keep the tip functional.

If you want some even better equipment, these are the ph probes I will buy one day ($400+): https://www.hannainst.com/search?search_query=99+series+portable#/filter:product_type:Portable$2520Meter/filter:brand:Hanna$2520Instruments

I hope this helps! Good luck.
 
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LeastExpectedGrower

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I've been using one for over 2 years now, with no issues. It does ph and tds, stays calibrated, and it works every time. I can replace the ph tip if it ever malfunctions, current cost is $75 on Hanna web site. The total pen price is up to $195 now on the Hanna web site, was $150 when I bought it. If you give your email to the web site, you will get a coupon code for 10% off your first order. That would bring the total down to $175. They are $225 on Amazon. https://www.hannainst.com/hi98129-ph-ec-tds-tester.html

They also have a less expensive option for a ph only pen (no tds) for $118, replacement tips are $59. This is similar to the BlueLabs Ph pen for $85, so $23 more than Hanna. Not too much more money for the quality. See here: https://www.hannainst.com/hi98127-phep4-ph-tester.html

Like everyone else, I wasted my money on the cheap pens first. I bought my Hanna after having issues with the other pens and either sending them back for a refund or just tossing them in the trash. The Hanna was a recommendation of a friend of mine who works in a water testing and analysis lab in the municipal water industry. They use Hanna Instruments in the lab which is how he knew the brand reputation (top of the line). If you look on their web site, you'll see what I mean - some really serious equipment. I had never heard of the brand before talking to my friend.

Like any pen, you cannot let the tip dry out or you will have issues. I use the Hanna storage solution in the pen cap when I take a break from growing, usually during the summer June - August. I make sure the cap is full of fluid, then I store the pen in a 64 oz mason jar with a large humidity pack. This keeps the pen tip from drying out. You will see salt migrate out of the pen cap over time while in the jar, once a month I take the pen out, wash off the salt, make sure the cap has fluid, and return it to the jar. I would recommend doing this when storing any brand ph pen, to keep the tip functional.

If you want some even better equipment, these are the ph probes I will buy one day ($400+): https://www.hannainst.com/search?search_query=99+series+portable#/filter:product_type:Portable$2520Meter/filter:brand:Hanna$2520Instruments

I hope this helps! Good luck.
Cool. I'd consider it if/when my Bluelab meter decides to quit. It's been solid for a couple years without any issues, but they don't last forever.

The only negative about the Bluelab one for me is that it takes a good while to get to the reading point I rinse it in our tap water (8.something) and my filtered & nutrient filled water is down around 4.7...I walk away for 5 minutes and come back to check on it. Would be great to have something that I don't have to do that for.
 

1212ham

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Cool. I'd consider it if/when my Bluelab meter decides to quit. It's been solid for a couple years without any issues, but they don't last forever.

The only negative about the Bluelab one for me is that it takes a good while to get to the reading point I rinse it in our tap water (8.something) and my filtered & nutrient filled water is down around 4.7...I walk away for 5 minutes and come back to check on it. Would be great to have something that I don't have to do that for.
If my probes were that slow I'd smash them with a hammer, run them through a meat grinder and burn them. Then I'd vent my frustration. :lol:

I don't get it, was it always that slow? My meters are normaly within a few hundreths in seconds.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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If my probes were that slow I'd smash them with a hammer, run them through a meat grinder and burn them. Then I'd vent my frustration. :lol:

I don't get it, was it always that slow? My meters are normaly within a few hundreths in seconds.
Yeah, from first use it's been that way. It calibrates fine (though that takes time too) and it's accurate, but it just takes a long time. I actually often use the 'hold' function in the middle momentarily so that it doesn't shut itself off while it crawls downward. Definitely takes minutes not seconds.
 
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Delps8

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I hadn't heard that before, can you post a link?

I can recommend the Apera ph-60 and Milwaukee mw102, both are quality meters.
Bluelab says that same thing - if it dries out, just soak it overnight.

I don't use storage solution . The docs for the Bluelab warn against using RO and distilled (and one other type of pure water that escapes me ATM) so I leave my meter in a ceramic coffee cup ½ full of nutes. Sure, that's not storage solution but I figure if my pH probe from my Bluelab monitor sits in a res all the time, the pen will be OK. Two and a half years in, it's doing fine.
 

Driver733

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Cool. I'd consider it if/when my Bluelab meter decides to quit. It's been solid for a couple years without any issues, but they don't last forever.

The only negative about the Bluelab one for me is that it takes a good while to get to the reading point I rinse it in our tap water (8.something) and my filtered & nutrient filled water is down around 4.7...I walk away for 5 minutes and come back to check on it. Would be great to have something that I don't have to do that for.
No waiting at all with the Hanna. I don't remember waiting with my BlueLab pen but that was like 10 years ago now, so my memory is a little foggy.
 
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