Pheno types & harvest time

CapitainSpaulding

CapitainSpaulding

Member
I'm growing Sour D. There at 8 weeks in flowering. But one of the different pheno types, looks done. She looked ready, a week ago. The buds are falling over. And over 60 percent of the hairs have turned orange. And are curling in. Knowing this, I flushed her a week ago. And I've been giving her nothing but water since. I heard this was a 10 week strain. What do you guys think? What would you do? She a day over 8 weeks. And I don't know what's the right thing to do. Should I take her down or what? I could use some advice
 
Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

Well-Known Member
Wait another 2 weeks...I know that's not what you want to hear & if you were gonna chop you would have already but the best advice I've gotten on this site is if it looks done give it another 2 weeks & then harvest. 8 weeks is not enough I go 10 minimum regardless of what the breeder says. A lot of complexity is added to the buds in the final weeks don't take them down before they reach full potential as hard as that can be when you are out....stay vigilant
 
Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

Well-Known Member
Just want to add that you do not have to take down there whole plant either. If you are unsure or really hard up cut off a tester bud & hang it to dry. You can leave the lowers to ripen while you pull a couple nugs to smoke on
 
CapitainSpaulding

CapitainSpaulding

Member
Richard Drysift said:
Just want to add that you do not have to take down there whole plant either. If you are unsure or really hard up cut off a tester bud & hang it to dry. You can leave the lowers to ripen while you pull a couple nugs to smoke on
Click to expand...
The messed up thing, I really barely smoke. I mean a couple times a month. And I have pretty to hold me over. I just never seen a pheno that was that much different. All other ladies need the couple weeks. But I did try a little nug. And it was a real uppity high. And it only lasted a hour. So U think your right. I should wait. And let the trics get more cloady. I just was worried about letting it go to long. And getting a couch lock high. Thanks for the good advice. I was stressing it. I put my heart & soul into those girls lol. Take care
 
Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

Well-Known Member
A couch lock high is desired imo. That narcotic effect is what good weed should do. To me holding onto the bong & starting off into space for hours is the very definition of being stoned. If it doesn't make you mildly retarded it's not medicine to me but to be honest flavor in my book is just as important than potency which is the main reason I grow in organic soil. A lot of dankness is added in the final weeks, if you've come this far why not let the bud get to its full triple AAA grade potential? You'll notice the colas furthest from the light tend to ripen first and the tallest colas typically finish before the lowers. I like to wait until the whole plant is finished which normally takes about 75 days for most strains.
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

Well-Known Member
Richard Drysift said:
A couch lock high is desired imo. That narcotic effect is what good weed should do. To me holding onto the bong & starting off into space for hours is the very definition of being stoned. If it doesn't make you mildly retarded it's not medicine to me but to be honest flavor in my book is just as important than potency which is the main reason I grow in organic soil. A lot of dankness is added in the final weeks, if you've come this far why not let the bud get to its full triple AAA grade potential? You'll notice the colas furthest from the light tend to ripen first and the tallest colas typically finish before the lowers. I like to wait until the whole plant is finished which normally takes about 75 days for most strains.
Click to expand...
Thank god somebody said it.

If it cant put you to sleep, give it another week.
 
CapitainSpaulding

CapitainSpaulding

Member
Hey, I could use some advice again. I got 2 tents. A veg & flower. And I gave the veg nutes to the flowering tent. This was gonna be the last feeding, before flush. Would you flush em now. I don't want to fry em
 
CapitainSpaulding

CapitainSpaulding

Member
Richard Drysift said:
A couch lock high is desired imo. That narcotic effect is what good weed should do. To me holding onto the bong & starting off into space for hours is the very definition of being stoned. If it doesn't make you mildly retarded it's not medicine to me but to be honest flavor in my book is just as important than potency which is the main reason I grow in organic soil. A lot of dankness is added in the final weeks, if you've come this far why not let the bud get to its full triple AAA grade potential? You'll notice the colas furthest from the light tend to ripen first and the tallest colas typically finish before the lowers. I like to wait until the whole plant is finished which normally takes about 75 days for most strains.
Click to expand...
Responding to your message. There certain types of weed I smoke during the day. And certain types I smoke at night. Yeah, a couch lock is good before sleep. But I want some right in the middle. And the sour D is, for me. When I smoking during the day. I like weed that makes the day better, and help me want to get things done. Not put me to sleep. I can see you a indica guy lol!
 
Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

Well-Known Member
Nope I grow a lot of hybrids & sativas many of which take longer than 9 weeks to finish but I'm trying to say that the whole early or late harvest justification is a bunch of Internet lore. "Cerebral" weed is a way of saying the bud is weak but if that is what you aim for that's cool too. Some strains are super fuckin strong & maybe you do want to diminish their potency so I could see that. My point is the ripening of the trichomes is a chemical process that takes time; don't cut until your plants reach full potential...that's potential not potency- pick the bud when the whole plant is done which almost never takes less than 10 weeks...good luck & happy growin!!!
 
CapitainSpaulding

CapitainSpaulding

Member
Yeah, but if you let to many tric's turn Amber. To me you have some sleeper bud. I harvest when my tric's are cloady. And a few are Amber. I wouldn't cut her down while there clear. That would be a waste of time & effort. I guess to each there own. The harvest time is up to the grower. So they can get what there looking for. Weed is the most potent when the trics are clear. There have been lots of studies. Check it out online if you don't believe. That's why you high, that's why you got so much energy.. Like I said I like my tric's cloady & a little Amber. But it's what you consider high. If you consider sitting on couch with munchies, high? I would say that a dazed & confused lol. I like just a little Amber. So I get some CBD's also. To each there own
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

Well-Known Member
CapitainSpaulding said:
Responding to your message. There certain types of weed I smoke during the day. And certain types I smoke at night. Yeah, a couch lock is good before sleep. But I want some right in the middle. And the sour D is, for me. When I smoking during the day. I like weed that makes the day better, and help me want to get things done. Not put me to sleep. I can see you a indica guy lol!
Click to expand...
Yeah dont let it confuse you, a sativa pulled while swelled will still take on its sativa effects but it will feel/taste & smell way stronger. It doesn't make it feel like an indica unless its a hybrid indica dom. Let that sativa swell and enjoy the deeper stone and increased yield. But atleast you dont need to buy properly ripened grade A. Early harvested weed is cheap! So thats a plus
 
Last edited:
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
There are some great threads about harvesting times. The most recent of the good ones is from RM3, have a look. I pull when I run out :(.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
CapitainSpaulding said:
Hey, I could use some advice again. I got 2 tents. A veg & flower. And I gave the veg nutes to the flowering tent. This was gonna be the last feeding, before flush. Would you flush em now. I don't want to fry em
Click to expand...

1: Look here to SEE what done looks like! :-D
https://www.rollitup.org/t/are-they-done-yet-what-does-done-look-like.853978/

2: Flushing is a MYTH! tired of explaining so read this - :wall:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

Thanks again to Riddle for the great teaching threads written with great patience and research! :hug:
 
CapitainSpaulding

CapitainSpaulding

Member
Dr. Who said:
1: Look here to SEE what done looks like! :-D
https://www.rollitup.org/t/are-they-done-yet-what-does-done-look-like.853978/

2: Flushing is a MYTH! tired of explaining so read this - :wall:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

Thanks again to Riddle for the great teaching threads written with great patience and research! :hug:
Click to expand...
WOW! I just got done reading the link you left. And yes it makes sense. So do I got this right? Should I just flush about every month. To make sure no trace minerals are clogging the roots. Or is there no need to flush at all? As long as I feed them right. So at the end of harvest. You plant need there nutes. Because there still growing & going through some important changes. So should I just feed them the way I always do, right up to the end. Or should I slowly lower the nutes. But anyways I really dug that article. I wish I had a setup to try the hippie trick. Putting the root underwater the last 10 days to harvest. Thanks for the info. And thanks for just being cool. Some people on here, like to put people down. I'm just here to learn what I can. And improve what I can, with this hobbie of mine.
 
CapitainSpaulding

CapitainSpaulding

Member
SPLFreak808 said:
Yeah dont let it confuse you, a sativa pulled while swelled will still take on its sativa effects but it will feel/taste & smell way stronger. It doesn't make it feel like an indica unless its a hybrid indica dom. Let that sativa swell and enjoy the deeper stone and increased yield. But atleast you dont need to buy properly ripened grade A. Early harvested weed is cheap! So thats a plus
Click to expand...
Most of the stains I've grown, needed to go a week longer in flowering cycle. I don't know where all this early harvest came from. If you guys consider a early harvest meaning when the tric's are cloady with a few Amber ones. Then I guess so. But I thought a early harvest was when the Tric's are clear. I wrote this thread because out of the 6, I was growing. I had a pheno that looked almost done. Almost all the hairs where red & curled in. While the rest of my plants pistils are white & still reaching straight out. And they have no hairs turning colors yet. And I'm at a little over 8 weeks into flower. But I know most of my girls are going to need a week or two longer then the 10 weeks. By the way they look now.
 
CapitainSpaulding

CapitainSpaulding

Member
CapitainSpaulding said:
Most of the stains I've grown, needed to go a week longer in flowering cycle. I don't know where all this early harvest came from. If you guys consider a early harvest meaning when the tric's are cloady with a few Amber ones. Then I guess so. But I thought a early harvest was when the Tric's are clear. I wrote this thread because out of the 6, I was growing. I had a pheno that looked almost done. Almost all the hairs where red & curled in. While the rest of my plants pistils are white & still reaching straight out. And they have no hairs turning colors yet. And I'm at a little over 8 weeks into flower. But I know most of my girls are going to need a week or two longer then the 10 weeks. By the way they look now.
Click to expand...
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
CapitainSpaulding said:
WOW! I just got done reading the link you left. And yes it makes sense. So do I got this right? Should I just flush about every month. To make sure no trace minerals are clogging the roots. Or is there no need to flush at all? As long as I feed them right. So at the end of harvest. You plant need there nutes. Because there still growing & going through some important changes. So should I just feed them the way I always do, right up to the end. Or should I slowly lower the nutes. But anyways I really dug that article. I wish I had a setup to try the hippie trick. Putting the root underwater the last 10 days to harvest. Thanks for the info. And thanks for just being cool. Some people on here, like to put people down. I'm just here to learn what I can. And improve what I can, with this hobbie of mine.
Click to expand...
Thanks, I try to help.

For the real question here.
That would depend on what media your in.
What you feed.
How often you feed and how you feed.

So then, Soil? What soil?
What nutrient - list everything.
How often?

If your in soil and running synthetics, you should be doing this; Water-feed-water-feed-water-feed - etc.
If you do that and you don't over feed. You should NOT need to flush (read as: leech actually) at any time really!

Here is a tip for you.
Do NOT change to "bloom" nutes at the lighting change to flower times. WAIT 2-3 weeks or until the stretch period is over!
The plant is still needing the higher N during this time.....Then maybe use 1/2 Veg and 1/2 Bloom for 2 more weeks, THEN go to 100% bloom nutrient! You won't get the "yellowing" of the plant like many do. They will stay healthier and yield better!

Once you get dialed in, really dialed in.....you'll get it!
 
tyke1973

tyke1973

Well-Known Member
CapitainSpaulding said:
I'm growing Sour D. There at 8 weeks in flowering. But one of the different pheno types, looks done. She looked ready, a week ago. The buds are falling over. And over 60 percent of the hairs have turned orange. And are curling in. Knowing this, I flushed her a week ago. And I've been giving her nothing but water since. I heard this was a 10 week strain. What do you guys think? What would you do? She a day over 8 weeks. And I don't know what's the right thing to do. Should I take her down or what? I could use some advice
Click to expand...
Personally i dry in the flowering room ,so i would just let the one that looks done go,till the other one is done.It won't hurt anything,My jack herer is a 9 week strain but the blues i have in the same room looks like it will run a week longer you may suprise your self and,this may sound stupid but don't be suprised if your end result is a little more than normal ,i have done sour d and its all ways been done in 9 week,but it wont hurt to runit to 10
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top