physan 20 overdose?

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stupidlizard

Active Member
I have a question. I have a 27 gallon tank with about 23 gallons of water in it. I have been batteling root rot and some greyish slimyish shit. So I have h202 3% and physan 20. SO I put like 3 table spoons of the physan 20 in the water and now all i have is lots of foam.so much foam that you cant even see the bubbles from my 3 12 inch airstones. I remove all the foam and then 30 min later its right back. so my roots are covered in this foam. is this normal? did I over dose? what is the right dosage? are my plants in danger?
 
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AverageJohnDoe

Active Member
From what I have seen that physan 20 really foams up the reservoir, it is supposed to be some amazing stuff. My Dutch Master Zone bubbles up a little, but not like I have seen pics of the physan20. I have seen inches of the 'foam' it makes. Sorry, not too much help
 
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DecimateForce

Active Member
I can't find any information on using Physan 20 in the nutrient reservoir. Is it OK to use it during the normal growing cycle? I made a mistake and introduced some rot into my system and was wonder if I could put this in for a few watering cycles before changing my nutrients? I'm running an ebb and flow system. If it's alright to do this, what concentration do you use? Can you put it in with the rest of your nutrients or should you use fresh water?
 
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stupidlizard

Active Member
well I out 3 tablespoons in 25 gallons of water with normal nutes and proper ph and temp. They are in there second week of flowering. I will put up pics in a few hours when they wake up.
 
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MORE COWBELL

Member
PHYSAN 20 IS POISONOUS and is for ORNAMENTAL PLANTS ONLY!
NOT FOR INGESTION!
DONT CARE HOW WELL IT WORKS YOU WILL UNLIKELY POISON YOURSELF AND OTHER PATIENTS
if the goal is to provide the best meds then you wont use PHYSAN 20-BECAUSE IT WILL KILL YOU!
http://www.physan.com/

this one even better
http://www.physan.com/PAGES/Physan20_8oz_Label.pdf

dont do what dummies do cause it might kill you and others unless that is your goal

QUOTE"DANGER:
Corrosive. Causes severe eye and skin damage. Do not
get in eyes, on skin, or on clothing. Harmful if swallowed.
Avoid contamination of food.
Personal Protective Equipment (PPE):
Applicators and other handlers (other than mixers and
loaders) must wear: Long-sleeved shirt and long pants,
waterproof gloves, shoes, plus socks and protective
eyewear. Discard clothing and other absorbent materials
that have been drenched or heavily contaminated
with this product’s concentrate. Do not reuse them. Follow
manufacturer’s instructions for cleaning/maintaining
PPE. If no such instructions for washables, use detergent
and hot water. Keep and wash PPE separately
from other laundry. See Insert #2 for User Safety Recommendations.
STATEMENT OF PRACTICAL TREATMENT
In case of contact, immediately flush eyes or skin with
plenty of water for at least 15 minutes. For eyes, call a
physician. Remove and wash contaminated clothing
before reuse. If swallowed, drink promptly a large
quantity of milk, egg whites, gelatin solution, or – if
these are not available – drink large quantities of water.
Avoid alcohol. Call a physician immediately.
NOTE TO PHYSICIAN: Probable mucosal damage may
contraindicate the use of gastric lavage.
ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS:
This pesticide is toxic to fish. Do not discharge effluent
containing this product into lakes, streams, ponds, estuaries,
oceans, or public waters unless this product is
specifically identified and addressed in an NPDES permit.
Do not discharge effluent containing this product to
sewer systems without previously notifying the sewage
treatment plant authority. For guidance, contact your
State Water Board or Regional Office of the EPA."ENDQUOTE
 
dankhoe417

dankhoe417

Active Member
StupidLiz- don't be scared of the PHYZAN20. I use 2 tbsp per 25 gal rez when I get slime with no issues at all. H2O2 is equally dangerous, if not more. The PHYZAN20 is a bit soapy and will foam up. The more agitation with bubbles, the more foam. It will subside after a day or two. What I do is change my rez 3 days after a dose of it, then go back to H2O2. The stuff is awesome and a bottle will last you forever. It is also good to use at 1tsp per gallon in a spray bottle between crops as a disenfectant.
Read whats in the ingredient list of a frozen corn dog. That should scare you more. Most of those warnings are related to full strength applications, not diluted. Hell, hydrochloric acid is extremely corrosive and is used in prepping concrete surfaces, but it is also present in everyones stomach.
Take it FWIW, but PHYZAN20 is great stuff in my eyes, for its intended use.
 
kilo810

kilo810

Active Member
dankhoe417 said:
StupidLiz- don't be scared of the PHYZAN20. I use 2 tbsp per 25 gal rez when I get slime with no issues at all. H2O2 is equally dangerous, if not more. The PHYZAN20 is a bit soapy and will foam up. The more agitation with bubbles, the more foam. It will subside after a day or two. What I do is change my rez 3 days after a dose of it, then go back to H2O2. The stuff is awesome and a bottle will last you forever. It is also good to use at 1tsp per gallon in a spray bottle between crops as a disenfectant.
Read whats in the ingredient list of a frozen corn dog. That should scare you more. Most of those warnings are related to full strength applications, not diluted. Hell, hydrochloric acid is extremely corrosive and is used in prepping concrete surfaces, but it is also present in everyones stomach.
Take it FWIW, but PHYZAN20 is great stuff in my eyes, for its intended use.
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Agreed, DWC got messy with slime, added this, got messy with bubbles, LOL and hopefully i'll come out clean.
 
kilo810

kilo810

Active Member
MORE COWBELL said:
PHYSAN 20 IS POISONOUS and is for ORNAMENTAL PLANTS ONLY!
NOT FOR INGESTION!
DONT CARE HOW WELL IT WORKS YOU WILL UNLIKELY POISON YOURSELF AND OTHER PATIENTS
if the goal is to provide the best meds then you wont use PHYSAN 20-BECAUSE IT WILL KILL YOU!
http://www.physan.com/

this one even better
http://www.physan.com/PAGES/Physan20_8oz_Label.pdf

dont do what dummies do cause it might kill you and others unless that is your goal

QUOTE"DANGER:
Corrosive. Causes severe eye and skin damage. Do not
get in eyes, on skin, or on clothing. Harmful if swallowed.
Avoid contamination of food.
Personal Protective Equipment (PPE):
Applicators and other handlers (other than mixers and
loaders) must wear: Long-sleeved shirt and long pants,
waterproof gloves, shoes, plus socks and protective
eyewear. Discard clothing and other absorbent materials
that have been drenched or heavily contaminated
with this product’s concentrate. Do not reuse them. Follow
manufacturer’s instructions for cleaning/maintaining
PPE. If no such instructions for washables, use detergent
and hot water. Keep and wash PPE separately
from other laundry. See Insert #2 for User Safety Recommendations.
STATEMENT OF PRACTICAL TREATMENT
In case of contact, immediately flush eyes or skin with
plenty of water for at least 15 minutes. For eyes, call a
physician. Remove and wash contaminated clothing
before reuse. If swallowed, drink promptly a large
quantity of milk, egg whites, gelatin solution, or – if
these are not available – drink large quantities of water.
Avoid alcohol. Call a physician immediately.
NOTE TO PHYSICIAN: Probable mucosal damage may
contraindicate the use of gastric lavage.
ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS:
This pesticide is toxic to fish. Do not discharge effluent
containing this product into lakes, streams, ponds, estuaries,
oceans, or public waters unless this product is
specifically identified and addressed in an NPDES permit.
Do not discharge effluent containing this product to
sewer systems without previously notifying the sewage
treatment plant authority. For guidance, contact your
State Water Board or Regional Office of the EPA."ENDQUOTE
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ALso note that it is used in orchards. LOL and on fruit trees. HAHAHA. remember that next time you eat a peach or apple.
 
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vertigo0007

New Member
MORE COWBELL said:
PHYSAN 20 IS POISONOUS and is for ORNAMENTAL PLANTS ONLY!
NOT FOR INGESTION!
DONT CARE HOW WELL IT WORKS YOU WILL UNLIKELY POISON YOURSELF AND OTHER PATIENTS
if the goal is to provide the best meds then you wont use PHYSAN 20-BECAUSE IT WILL KILL YOU!
http://www.physan.com/

this one even better
http://www.physan.com/PAGES/Physan20_8oz_Label.pdf

dont do what dummies do cause it might kill you and others unless that is your goal

QUOTE"DANGER:
Corrosive. Causes severe eye and skin damage. Do not
get in eyes, on skin, or on clothing. Harmful if swallowed.
Avoid contamination of food.
Personal Protective Equipment (PPE):
Applicators and other handlers (other than mixers and
loaders) must wear: Long-sleeved shirt and long pants,
waterproof gloves, shoes, plus socks and protective
eyewear. Discard clothing and other absorbent materials
that have been drenched or heavily contaminated
with this product’s concentrate. Do not reuse them. Follow
manufacturer’s instructions for cleaning/maintaining
PPE. If no such instructions for washables, use detergent
and hot water. Keep and wash PPE separately
from other laundry. See Insert #2 for User Safety Recommendations.
STATEMENT OF PRACTICAL TREATMENT
In case of contact, immediately flush eyes or skin with
plenty of water for at least 15 minutes. For eyes, call a
physician. Remove and wash contaminated clothing
before reuse. If swallowed, drink promptly a large
quantity of milk, egg whites, gelatin solution, or – if
these are not available – drink large quantities of water.
Avoid alcohol. Call a physician immediately.
NOTE TO PHYSICIAN: Probable mucosal damage may
contraindicate the use of gastric lavage.
ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS:
This pesticide is toxic to fish. Do not discharge effluent
containing this product into lakes, streams, ponds, estuaries,
oceans, or public waters unless this product is
specifically identified and addressed in an NPDES permit.
Do not discharge effluent containing this product to
sewer systems without previously notifying the sewage
treatment plant authority. For guidance, contact your
State Water Board or Regional Office of the EPA."ENDQUOTE
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Did you even bother to pull an msds? It clearly says you dont even need a respirator. I just love all of the misinformation on this site!
 
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