Pic of a cool OG Kush seedling

BobCajun said:

I see. If it's a stinker as some say it may not be the best thing for indoor growing anyway. I'm just trying it out. You find it boring, maybe so will I. Probably just be another big letdown. Worth a try anyway. My guess is that I won't even notice a major difference from other strains I've grown. I'm actually more interested in good bud structure and growth characteristics than absolute potency or type of high. You can look at test results for the exact same strain in anaytical 360 and find one sample with 7% THC and another with 26%, so it seems to be more how it's grown or which pheno is chosen than the strain. You can find Kushes on there with very average potency. I've seen low potency GGs on there too.

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MichiganMedGrower said:

And here is more stuff that needs correcting. Lol. What the hell doc?

Plantmax bulbs are "greenhouse commercial"? That's not even a term. And they are just cheap Chinese bulbs likely rebranded across many lines.

Jupiter 6 hoods are not special. They had a supposedly better pair of inserts. It was just marketing. They are gone now. for lack of sales and customer service.

You can pay too much for used ones on eBay if you are so sold. Everyone with them sitting in their attic are jumping on the bandwagon it seems.

The 20% increased reflectivity was just advertising. Increased from what?

http://greenbookpages.com/reviews/hydroponics/hydro-premium-6-jupiter-grow-light-reflector/

And the light bulb below the glass would ruin the reflectors reflectivity to the canopy anyway.

I feel like I am still on Riddle me dot com. Lol.

And you keep showing the same bud pics. But they were chem dog supposedly last time you posted them.

And I don't even want to approach the rediculous yields you are claiming in 3 gallon pots but you just keep claiming with no real time proof ever.

Show a pic. A full garden pic with the reflectors as you say and show and just hold up a piece of paper with the date on it showing. A pic that shows all you claim. A new pic I have not seen. A pic of today.

And I will apologize to you for the insults. But I knew all along didn't I?

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MichiganMedGrower said:

No. My cmh is in an open vertical reflector. And Phillips bulbs actually put less uv on the canopy than ushio or max par. But more spectrum. They designed it to put down usable uv though.

Your mv does not put out any measurable uvb.

I looked it up to be sure when I posted. Only the reptile bulbs put down any usable uv-b. You have uv-a

I don't have time but any search for uv and mercury vapor will show this.

And it's still a reflective mess to mount a round bulb under the reflector. Common sense should kick in there. Would make a mess of the spectrum too.

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Dr. Who said:

"Greenhouse commercial" as these are used by many greenhouse's around - cost factor man, cost factor. I bought them by the skid when I ran them. The difference in performance from a "name brand" and plantmax.....is not worth the added cost for any result they claim......I don't give 2 shits about any damn internet video comparison either......Do a grow with each, not a meter test.

Jupiter hoods had effective working covers over the vents - They add 20% more reflected light.....My metering reflects it too.
Whats the point of the link MMG? There's no review there!

This is from the link: • 100% Light tight with 20% more output with exclusive 2 extra reflecting panels patent pending
It works better then the others that had the same idea. They lacked the return and the cooling air flow volume of the Jupiter.

My light bulb below the glass works just fine! In fact it works great! Your logic bomb opinion is, yours.

I get my yields! All you have to do is learn how. Even you could do it.

Now then. Let me explain something here. I live rural, very rural. The only way to get internet is by Sat. Huges or Excede. I get excede. You have limited bandwidth to use - monthly, then you get throttled back.
I'm not about to waste my bandwidth - net time on uploading pictures.......I'm not all that comfortable uploading pics of my grow, and I'm SURE AS HELL not going to take pics of the whole thing - for the world to see.... What I do is a pvt matter that I share at MY will, as I see fit......

BUT! Just for you......
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Now as a note on the other pics.
If you bothered to take the time to go back and look at them again. You'll find that the Chem and the #4 were clearly labeled and very plainly 2 different pics of different plants!

I will not ever again post any pictures by insult request!

I could really blow my top and answer back in the same insulting manor by which you consistently attack me......
I'm seriously pissed!
I don't care anything about the "thing" you have for Rid. That's your business!
Kindly keep that between you two!
Just because I refuse to take sides or get involved in that - any fucking more. Should not have placed a "target" on my back.




You may start NOW, and no, you didn't.....

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Dr. Who said:

Your flat out wrong about not emitting any UVB.......You gotta dig deeper the repti bulb answers to questions......
You can run them with no outer bulb - Fucking dangerous as hell and the makers will tell you that if you do.....The UV at all wavelengths go through the roof - make some phone calls.... I did back when I was looking for something better then Repti bulbs of crappy strength.

You know why they don't work past 18"? So they don't put harmful UV radiation into the home.......Go figure.

It's also long been said that if you remove the hood glass and run MH. You get some UV benefit in the last weeks....Even Ed said that!

Lastly, again, Repti bulbs and tanning bulbs (not to mention your specific listed ones). Are not the "only thing" that emits UVB

I didn't know about your hood not having glass in them....I don't care......That's my bad to ME for not looking...

As for the under the hood thing - Again, that's your opinion - Have it! It simply works well, for me!

I'm still holding my tongue.....

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Johnei said:

MichiganMedMan... previous page, the pics you posted... first pic in veg...
That's 100% OG! No mistaking that sheeit! Yours has not so visible 3leaf sheeit.. but it's there.. you just grew her so well.. and maybe I'm thinking by looking... she's a granny... that she's past most the 3leaf shit hardcore like when younger.. Very nice plant MichicanBrother! Get's me all razzled up... MY BABY MY BABY.... about my og I USED to have. lol.. Love it bro. she's sexy bioatch! ....cya. She's a beut.. all tall and lanky and fucked up growth. The best!

(--didn't wanna quote longass picture post of yours)

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MichiganMedGrower said:

Thanks a lot man.

The first one I grew looked more normal in veg and then stretched all over. So maybe more Trainwreck in that one. It still tastes all og. Lemons and fuel and a full head and body high that lasted and got a bit trippy and distorted sometimes.

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Johnei said:

Just double looking now... fuck man.. I;ve done that... pinch tops so high... you better support that shit, she's gonna take on some crazy shape.. im thinking bend those very top brqanches way over, give others time.. still looks good. she;s a crazy bioatch.

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Johnei said:

Nice Nice. ................................................(LOL! ...if you saw what was here before)

Hey bro, brings up a question in my mind.. vegging lets say in 1gal pots, you think when you see not just 1or2.. but a good amount(not overly crazy too far) of roots stickin out the bottom, that's it time to move them up? ....or it doesn't mean shit and can veg more whatever...
Thanks!
quick question what you think.
Help out a newb.

-edit-and they dont sit in water etc...

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MichiganMedGrower said:

Ok. I'm sorry. I see plants with a note with the date I asked for. Took you 2 days. But I see that someone has labeled the plants.

They look like they will yield about a third of your claims. Just my opinion.

But honestly the way you answer questions and your story about your raided dispensary and failure to produce any lab tests when anyone asks. And your answering differently and using descriptions I posted and info "you tested" that has only been published recently.

I think you just know someone with a dispensary. And make up a whole lot of crap.

Just my opinion. It's easy to pretend to be something on the internet. It isnt only me around here that thinks this.

but you did what I said and made sure you insisted you didn't have to do it again.

Sounds fishy. I live way out in the country and use the same crappy internet as you. And I take the time to post.

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Dr. Who said:

2 days? I've been in Mason shooting in the state trap championship.
Came home cause the wife had a problem. Going back in 1 hr to shoot the 200 bird singles and staying for Sundays handicap final too.

I'm not here to make the likes of you happy and I don't give a shit about what your opinion of me is.....I'm not judging you. I'm trying to change away from being that kind of ass.....

Somehow I offended you by not taking your side in the stupid Riddle thing.

Now you simply go down the road of an about to be divorced wife. "You did, you said, but you, etc, etc"

You insult anyone who doesn't agree with your superior knowledge (from a self proclaimed 2 years of intense study - read pot books) You have what? 3 years of growing.....You do grow nice plants - never said you couldn't grow..... But just because you don't do what I do, I can't be doing it?

And people say I'm hard to take. (have been attempting to work on that)

Oh, that's right....you sold cars...Used ones no doubt...No soul...eh? Just like the door to door vacuum salespersons....Selling overpriced crap to suckers that don't have the strength to say no to high pressure sales.......You act exactly like that..... The TRUMP of the website.......

Well that's going to be my limit of insult.....Your not worth it....

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BobCajun said:

My suggestion; put each other on ignore. This bickering is obviously not leading to anything productive. From what I've seen, neither of you are experts on the subject so pretty much the pot and the kettle going back and forth at each other.

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MichiganMedGrower said:

I never claimed to be an expert. I'm just getting started really. I waited a couple of years before ever posting to be sure I had learned all about plants and gardening and got past the noob learning curve.

I have managed to run a timed perpetual with up to 12 different strains or crosses and not missed a deadline in almost 3 years in a row. And the the quality and yield has gone up considerably.

I don't claim anything else.

Donations paid for my new house and life here since my illness has taken over. I am grateful for the medical marijuana program here. I lived in fear of jail for pot most of my life. And I always needed it for my sick colon.

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BobCajun said:

Okay, I thought it was a "I know more than you know" thing. Personally I don't mind Dr Who posting stuff here that may not be backed up with solid evidence. It's just a laid back kind of weed forum, not fucking Cannigraphic forum or whatever. People don't have to take what he says as gospel and if he makes stuff up so what? If he gets joy out of posting then why spoil his fun? Your nasty attacks on him are actually more disturbing than his possibly erroneous or fictional statements. Like I said, just put each other on ignore because nobody wants to read that shit. Either that or do it by PM, please and thank you.

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