Pile of curing weed

waterproof808 said:

Hey, I can appreciate the dudes "outside the box" approach to things and curious mind but Perhaps he should sign up for some science courses so his responses can be more informed and less anecdotal and "bro-sciencey."

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CannaBruh said:

troll game is hard af 100

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BobCajun said:

Yeah your troll game sure is, troll. You're on MY thread, so who's the troll, troll?

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CannaBruh said:

you're trolling the boards with completely dissonant info with zero credibility, I'm all for outside of the box thinking, but dismissing what is already accepted largely as "acceptable" only to replace with outlying anecdotes and zero evidence (you want to answer my question about # of times you've actually done this?) it begs to question how much fun you're having, or if you're serious.

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BobCajun said:

What, how many times I heat cured weed? Twice, why do you ask?

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Lucky Luke said:

And how many times have you cured the traditional way and for how many months?

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BobCajun said:

Never. I just dried it in a microwave before. But I can tell you that the traditional curing method found in all forums etc dries it too quickly, setting the green color. That's why it's green and remains green no matter what happens later. Here's some information about curing another plant called tobacco from this article.

"Burley’s quality is influenced by moisture and temperature conditions inside the curing facility during the curing period. Steady or average daily humidity in the 72‐75% range is considered optimum for producing the quality of tobacco leaves currently desired by the industry. The optimum temperature is considered to be in a range of mean daily temperatures from 65 to 90˚F."

How many weed curing guides recommend that humidity level? None. Now here's what happens.

"Tobacco harvested in late September or early October presents additional challenges for curing. If the weather is especially dry during the first 3‐4 weeks, the tobacco may dry too fast, causing a greenish or “piebald” color to be set in the leaf."

It's supposed to dry over a period of weeks, not a few days like everyone does. After those first few days, when it gets down to 60-65% rh, it has already been dried. All that stuff with the jars is not curing, it's just further drying at a slower rate and then it's aging, which is different from curing. The humidity level of the weed after the 3 day drying is the same as the FINAL humidity of tobacco, 62%. That shows you that the weed is not cured at all, just quick dried, quick meaning about 3 days.

The way I now do it is a real curing method, flue curing. The way everybody else does it is not a curing method of any kind, it's a drying method. Show me one article on tobacco curing in which it's taken down to 62% humidity in 3 days at room temperature. The only humidity control done by everyone else is keeping it LOW, in the 60s, not up in the 70s. That's where you all screwed up and that's why you all have green weed.

Here's an example of how NOT to cure plant material, unless green is your favorite color. This is from http://www.growweedeasy.com/drying-curing

"Optimal Drying Environment:
Room Temperature - Around 70°F (21°C)
50% Humidity

Optimal Environment in Jars (Curing):
Room Temperature - Around 70°F (21°C)
60-65% Humidity"

What happened there was that the weed was quick dried in WAY too low humidity and then it was AGED in jars. Aging is not curing, which is why it's a different word. BTW, one way to maintain a RH of 72-75% would be to use a saturated solution of salt with excess salt grains, so basically a salt paste. If it gets dry you add water, if all the salt dissolves you add salt. I don't know how much it would take, probably a pan of it. Then you would keep that and the weed in a closed container with a small fan in it. Can't get much easier than that. You'd have to arrange the weed in such a way that air can circulate around it well, like maybe on a screen over the pan. I may try it sometime when I have some weed I don't mind sitting around for a couple months. Would it mold? I don't know, maybe or even probably. But then that's a good reason to flue cure it instead. No mold on my weed.

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CannaBruh said:

troll harder, you've lost me with your zero credibility game

cures 2x with heat, with zero cures but says those doing it (see; cup winners) are doing it all wrong... be easy bobcajun

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BobCajun said:

Never. I just dried it in a microwave before. .

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Shayno said:

I'm not interested in discussing the merits of BobCajun's unusual method. However, I suspect, as more science folks come into this field, we will stop using the misnomer "cured". We are not "curing" cannabis, we are drying it in such a way as to stabilize it, with the goals of minimizing chemical and microbial degradation, along with preventing the loss of volatile constituents to the environment. This is the same for all herbaceous botanical materials containing volatile constituents. You dry too fast, you lose the volatiles. You dry too slow, you get microbial growth. You have to find the right balance for each herb in your environment, whether we're talking cannabis, lavender, or cleavers. Technically, "curing" involves increasing the solute concentration of a biological material, so as to reduce its moisture content and subsequently inhibit microbial growth. We do not "cure" cannabis. However, we do dry it, in a controlled manner, to achieve some of the same goals (the approach to which is open for discussion...or argument, as the case may be).

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Lucky Luke said:

Stoners like their weird terms to much and the term "cured" has been used for 100's of years so i can not see it not being used. The term id love to get rid of is "Flushed" and the one id like people to be more aware of is "Defoliate".

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Lucky Luke said:

So, you have never dried the product the recommended way and you have never cured the product the recommended way. Yet you claim to "know" whats best....

You try to link Traditional curing methods (drying in very large amounts outside in the sun- Browning effect ) with a more boutique, controlled better way. Which you cannot in reality do. Someone trying to "cure" 500 outside plants is not going to do it the better way that we can do. You also keep confusing that horrible tobacco plant with Cannabis. Unless im mistaken they are completely different species. I also think that the flu cure that Tobacco growers use was to speed up the process of curing not give it a better cure. But thats off topic.

Its very hard to take you seriously due to you having no bass line to work from and the generality's you seem to draw from and you certainly shouldnt be preaching the "my way is best" if you havent tried the best way. How could you know? Bro science and "I just know" doesnt cut it, we are adults.

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Shayno said:

I'm not interested in discussing the merits of BobCajun's unusual method. However, I suspect, as more science folks come into this field, we will stop using the misnomer "cured". We are not "curing" cannabis, we are drying it in such a way as to stabilize it, with the goals of minimizing chemical and microbial degradation, along with preventing the loss of volatile constituents to the environment. This is the same for all herbaceous botanical materials containing volatile constituents. You dry too fast, you lose the volatiles. You dry too slow, you get microbial growth. You have to find the right balance for each herb in your environment, whether we're talking cannabis, lavender, or cleavers. Technically, "curing" involves increasing the solute concentration of a biological material, so as to reduce its moisture content and subsequently inhibit microbial growth. We do not "cure" cannabis. However, we do dry it, in a controlled manner, to achieve some of the same goals (the approach to which is open for discussion...or argument, as the case may be).

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BobCajun said:

Surprising number of learning disabled people on this forum, apparently. What part of my explanation of the difference between drying and curing went over your heads, all of it? BTW, the first sign of learning disability is not being able to spell the name of the nation Colombia.

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