Plant Moisture Stress - Symptoms and Solutions

whodatnation said:

Better yet! In the ground I think! Im a dumb indoor grower

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Shit I admire your outdoor veggie gardens.

Hey guys I did put her in a bigger pot on saturday and she has already put on at least a inch all around. The problem I had was that the lower leaves were turning yellow and starting to move up, and the new growth on top was only 3 leaves and really skinny I think it was root bound by the looks of it.

Hey guys and gals, recently joined forum so I can get some input on these LR2's I just started.
As you can see from the pick the leaves are starting to kind of curl upward and was wandering if it could be from the sun or over watering?
These are going to be outdoors plants and I can't/don't want to plant them in the ground because their really isn't any good spots and it is also monsoon season out here in Arizona.
Soooo I just wanted some input as to why the seedlings are doing this?
I know the soil on top looks dry but that is because I tried putting some on top to help soak up the standing water, as the pot was not draining like I had hoped it would overnight....
So I took an ice pick and made the holes bigger and drained out the water but the plants are like this now...
Also the seedlings get direct Arizona sunlight from about 10:30 am - 3:00 pm... Is this too much sunlight for seedlings???
I figured it would not matter that amount of sunlight if I kept them watered but now they're doing this so I'm curious if it is sun or water...
Using organic soil and threw in some used coffee grinds, egg shells and banana peels before planting, just to get some elements in the soil...plants were fine for the first week but now this...

Ph: 6.5 - 6.7

That's called "praying to the almighty sun", and it's a good thing.
Most seedlings need some protection from harsh direct sunlight so that they don't dry out too quickly.
Some outdoors guys poke a garden spade down into the dirt near the seedling so it sits in shadow, which is still plenty bright for a tiny plant with small leaves.
Once it outgrows the shadow of the spade, you can decide if it's hardy enough to go on it's own from there, or if you need some netting or loose gardening fabric set up to give some minor shade to take the edge off.
Once it's big enough it'll be good to go for full sunlight if you choose to give it to the plant.
I'm sure others will pop in with better advice.

I'm having troubles. I'm nearing day 26 and my girls just soooo small. Not to mention it's a light green which I haven't been able to fix. Now the fan leaves (the few I even have) are cupping down. I'm fairly certain this an issue related to too much moisture. As for the rest, I'm lost. I'm broke, Im stuck moving my girl window to window (which is a little embarrassing), aaaand I'm a little worried my soil is in serious need of change. Does anyone have any tips to help my girl grow, roots and all? Greatly appreciated.

- le monster

LeMonster said:

I'm having troubles. I'm nearing day 26 and my girls just soooo small. Not to mention it's a light green which I haven't been able to fix. Now the fan leaves (the few I even have) are cupping down. I'm fairly certain this an issue related to too much moisture. As for the rest, I'm lost. I'm broke, Im stuck moving my girl window to window (which is a little embarrassing), aaaand I'm a little worried my soil is in serious need of change. Does anyone have any tips to help my girl grow, roots and all? Greatly appreciated.

- le monster

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Can you post some pics so we can see what your talking about?

Gladly, I just have to figure out how to get it from my iPad to here lol. My computer screen had a run in with hulk...

Hope this will do. Can't take more till later tonight. Hopefully I'm just being overly cautious...

I should mention that picture was taken a few days ago and the drooping on the lower two leaves have considerably increased.

Let me know if you can't access the picture.

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Damn. I think my only other option would be to email it to someone, if someone's willing. Idk why it won't let me upload.

Might be hungry, a lack of nitrogen will do same thing

I had given up on the poor thing until recently. I mean it looked pretty bleak. But I switched out for a more airy soil I had lyin around the other day. I had always been awar of my crappy clump soil and I think it may have invited root rot to the party. I figured I'd give it another shot and try to setup up a proper light cycle for it. Too many variables being choked out window to window. I'm gonna try givin it some nuts as soon as it pops some new leaves and gets back on track a littl bit. I mean it's been at least a month and a half and it's tiny lol. Do you think I should toss it a low amount of notes now anyway? Thanks for the response.
- LM

Some very simple but good pointers.

Cheers.

HayesYHaze said:

Hey Uncle!

I've searched the web high and low for a week, I dont know to submit a HELP ME post... but I greatly need your help.

I assumed my plant was root-bound after the leaves began to look like this, transplanted to a 4GaL pot, and Three days later- still curling in with tips yellowed.
Its on 18/6 lighting. I water everyother day. (soil isn't moist 2" down)
Averages in tent are 37-48% Humidity, (77-81deg LIGHT) (72-74deg DARK)



Leaves lower are the same but dark, and "cripsy" like
I give up, and neeeed help!

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We need to talk about what's going on in your closet.

I dont care if your growing, but that set up has to go.

alright sweet that first post just about answered my question about some of my leaves curling like a bluntwrap lol thanks!

pls a little help, my leaves ar curling in a strange way, is this normal?

http://youtu.be/CkP2kTXUKaw any help or suggestions appreciated

blackxs said:

C02 can definitely help in high temperature conditions, but generally, growth will slow above 83/85.

If at all possible, lower your temps to about 80 and see if your plants dont enjoy it more. I bet they will. And while C02 may help mitigate any ill effects of temperature, it can be a tradeoff because you have to turn ventilation off to run it which lets things get hotter. Unless your running a closed setup. In which case I think no-C02 running 10 degrees cooler would be better. Just IMO, but what do I know - I only have so few posts

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Really? Where is the documentation of this? I would like to see some actual facts, not pot forum myths.....

Uncle Ben said:

You have to help (and figure this out) yourself. The problem may be your root system or overall lack of understanding of basic plant culture. Buy Mel Frank's "MJ Insiders Growers Guide". It is your shortcut to success.

The following is the best write up on soil container gardening I've seen in my 40+ years of gardening. The post (member) replies to Al the author is amazing. http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/contain/msg0316064615891.html?14

Good luck,
UB

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Wow that is an incredible article on container plants. Everything you really need to know is in that, and beginners would do very well to read it. The soil mixes are spot on as well. I have switched from a full peat based mix to pine bark fines and the results have been incredible to say the least.