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ToWeRdog and FloWeRGirl

ToWeRdog and FloWeRGirl

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I have had issues with FF burning my plants inthe past. Im not sayin that is what it is but, just sayin.....looks like your only using a little bit. Good luck man.

By the way....with rez temps that high i would run a root rot preventitive like sm-90.....I am running the same system and am 2 weeks into flowering and have root rot....I did not run any type prevetitive as I did not know about root rot and my rez temps where like 69-70. Also make sure you have 1 watt of air pump per gallon of water in your rez. sorry if i am telling you things that you already know but, I read alot on DWC/bubbleponics and saw nothing about these problems. If you look around it seems like there are qiuete a few people with brown slimy roots.
 
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Michael Phelps

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Ya my res temps are def to high, i want to get an aquarium chiller but that probably wont be for a month or so, btw i am expecting hygrozyme and hydroguard tomorrow,

Also im switching to gh nutes soon and going to use the lucus formula. Btw the lemon skunk was showing slight browning but that has since gone away, i appreciate the tips though.

Any more tips, do you think i could possibly have the 400w mh to close, its about a foot and a half away.
 
ToWeRdog and FloWeRGirl

ToWeRdog and FloWeRGirl

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Is your light aircooled? I have an aircooled hood but it is so cold around here right now that im not running any air through it. With out runing air through my 400 i keep it about 12"-15" but it has glass shield on the bottom. I would think 1 1/2 feet should be good. maybe you could just try putting it at 2 feet for a while and see if they get better or worse.

I have looked into the lucas formula and it seems to work for alot of people. I am using AN right now and so far i am not real impressed. I didnt have any probs with root rot untill i used their enzyme. The lucas formula is appealing just because of the fact that you dont have to change the rez often.

Wish i could be more help man, If it makes you feel better i have had leaf probs in both of my grows. I am currently on my second one. First one was not very succesful. Wish i had found this site before i started.
 
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Michael Phelps

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^ what is my what?

Could root rot be the issue here? I opened my reservoir and unfortunately its starting o get brown and slimy, i have hydro guard and hygrozyme coming tomorrow so hopefully its not to late.
 
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Michael Phelps

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ToWeRdog and FloWeRGirl said:
Is your light aircooled? I have an aircooled hood but it is so cold around here right now that im not running any air through it. With out runing air through my 400 i keep it about 12"-15" but it has glass shield on the bottom. I would think 1 1/2 feet should be good. maybe you could just try putting it at 2 feet for a while and see if they get better or worse.

I have looked into the lucas formula and it seems to work for alot of people. I am using AN right now and so far i am not real impressed. I didnt have any probs with root rot untill i used their enzyme. The lucas formula is appealing just because of the fact that you dont have to change the rez often.

Wish i could be more help man, If it makes you feel better i have had leaf probs in both of my grows. I am currently on my second one. First one was not very succesful. Wish i had found this site before i started.
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Yes my light is aircooled but its still kind of hot coming out of the glass, ive been exhausting my cab through my cooltube...

I think im going to just cool the light by itself and see if that helps with temps, cause its cold here to and i have my house temp at 60 degrees but it still stays pretty hot in my cab.


No worries man, i appreciate all the help you have given me, its def opened my eyes to some possibilitys.
 
crackerboy

crackerboy

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I have the same basic setup. GH nutes work great for me. I have heard a lot of people using the lucas formula. I personally just go by the table on the bottle and it works great. Also I had to put tape around my reservoir cause light was shining through the thin plastic. You could also use peroxide to treat the water and roots. Also it is good to change the res every 7 to 10 days. Your plants will not always eat the same nutes all the time. So when you just add nutes and not change out the res you could be adding too much of some things and not enough of another. Do more research before you decide on how to administer your nutes.
 
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Michael Phelps

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crackerboy said:
I have the same basic setup. GH nutes work great for me. I have heard a lot of people using the lucas formula. I personally just go by the table on the bottle and it works great. Also I had to put tape around my reservoir cause light was shining through the thin plastic. You could also use peroxide to treat the water and roots. Also it is good to change the res every 7 to 10 days. Your plants will not always eat the same nutes all the time. So when you just add nutes and not change out the res you could be adding too much of some things and not enough of another. Do more research before you decide on how to administer your nutes.
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Ya ive heard the lucas formula works wonders for the plants. I think im going to have to do the same with the tape because sometimes when i change my reservoir i can see light coming through on the sides, its not alot but im sure its enough. Also i do change my reservoir every 7 days, the roots like the straight air they get for those 5-7 min.
 
snutter

snutter

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Hey MP...

man I wish I could say exactly what the problem is. I thought that maybe you were over ferting, but 320ppm should be ok with the plants this young.. that's about 1/4 strength, like we talked about.

Hmm. I'll do some reading and see what I can find. those brown spots are worrisome...

I too have heard about fox farm nutes having issues with burning plants.

Have you measured the temps down by your plants? I think 1 foot away should be fine with the light, but it might be a little warm. One of your pics looked like over heating..

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snutter

snutter

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Ok, my best guess is a phosphorous deficiency. Any one have any thoughts on this diagnosis??

What percentage of phos is your nutes?

That's my best guess for you.

I hope you get your GH nutes soon. Make sure to flush your plants for a day or two before switching over..

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Fox farm is organic nutes aren't they? I personally hate organic nutes in hydro systems. seems to cause a lot of people problems. It seems like a lot of people that use them also experience root rot from what I've read on many threads over the past few months...
 
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Michael Phelps

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snutter said:
Hey MP...

man I wish I could say exactly what the problem is. I thought that maybe you were over ferting, but 320ppm should be ok with the plants this young.. that's about 1/4 strength, like we talked about.

Hmm. I'll do some reading and see what I can find. those brown spots are worrisome...

I too have heard about fox farm nutes having issues with burning plants.

Have you measured the temps down by your plants? I think 1 foot away should be fine with the light, but it might be a little warm. One of your pics looked like over heating..

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Ya man its just at 1/4 strength, when you change your reservoir do you ever have remaining nutes left over? Cause i just changed my reservoir a couple min ago and added some hygrozyme and aquashield(hydroguard). After i put new water in i was still reading 250 ppm. Im not adding any nutes at this point, just letting them take a quick break for a couple days before i add more nutes(if i do) and let the germ killers go to work on the plants roots... Also i realized that putting 2 frozen water bottles in my reservoir every 12 hours brings my temps down to 74 degrees at its highest(i took the measurement's when the bottles were all the way melted, so thats the highest the res temps get, so i think after the hygrozyme and the hydro guard i should be straight as far as root rot until i get some aquarium chillers.

also the temps down by the plants was 83 when i read it today, Could humidity have anything to do with it? im reading 31% humidity right now
 
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Michael Phelps

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snutter said:
Ok, my best guess is a phosphorous deficiency. Any one have any thoughts on this diagnosis??

What percentage of phos is your nutes?

That's my best guess for you.

I hope you get your GH nutes soon. Make sure to flush your plants for a day or two before switching over..

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Fox farm is organic nutes aren't they? I personally hate organic nutes in hydro systems. seems to cause a lot of people problems. It seems like a lot of people that use them also experience root rot from what I've read on many threads over the past few months...
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the phosphorus is 2, like i said in my previous post i just add hygrozyme and hydro guard so hopefully that helps! But i will be ordering gh nutes on friday!


Alright so basically i need to just run straight water through my system for 2 days?
 
snutter

snutter

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Michael Phelps said:
the phosphorus is 2, like i said in my previous post i just add hygrozyme and hydro guard so hopefully that helps! But i will be ordering gh nutes on friday!


Alright so basically i need to just run straight water through my system for 2 days?
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Right on, on the GH nutes... the sooner the better... :-) That's too low for phos. It'll be fine once you get your GH nutes, and you switch over to the Lucas Formula. I'm sure of it.. And your plants will bounce back beautifully... :-)

as far as flushing, yes straight water for a couple days should be fine. Make sure to pH it to 5.5 or so... Even though it's straight water, pH level still matters. that's because the plant still has nutes in it that it's using.

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snutter

snutter

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Michael Phelps said:
Ya man its just at 1/4 strength, when you change your reservoir do you ever have remaining nutes left over? Cause i just changed my reservoir a couple min ago and added some hygrozyme and aquashield(hydroguard). After i put new water in i was still reading 250 ppm. Im not adding any nutes at this point, just letting them take a quick break for a couple days before i add more nutes(if i do) and let the germ killers go to work on the plants roots... Also i realized that putting 2 frozen water bottles in my reservoir every 12 hours brings my temps down to 74 degrees at its highest(i took the measurement's when the bottles were all the way melted, so thats the highest the res temps get, so i think after the hygrozyme and the hydro guard i should be straight as far as root rot until i get some aquarium chillers.

also the temps down by the plants was 83 when i read it today, Could humidity have anything to do with it? im reading 31% humidity right now
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82 degrees at the plants eh? not too bad, but still high. what's the room temp? If you can get to 75 degrees, that's a perfect temp. But, a little higher doesn't hurt much.

I hope the root rot clears up quickly for you.

What type of water are you using? RO, distilled, or straight tap water? If you're using straight tap water, then a ppm reading of 250 is not surprising at all. That's probably what your water reads normally coming out of the tap. I use tap water. Mine is something like 175 to 200 ppm... Do the very tips of your leaves turn yellow? If so, that's just from the chlorine in your tap water (if that's what you use). It's nothing to be concerned about though...

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fishman

fishman

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Hey whtas up with this plant?planted the same day as the others but looks really strange leafs curling down .No brown spot so its not nut burn.Not to much water what could it be?Is it just a bad seed or some thing else?





snutter said:
82 degrees at the plants eh? not too bad, but still high. what's the room temp? If you can get to 75 degrees, that's a perfect temp. But, a little higher doesn't hurt much.

I hope the root rot clears up quickly for you.

What type of water are you using? RO, distilled, or straight tap water? If you're using straight tap water, then a ppm reading of 250 is not surprising at all. That's probably what your water reads normally coming out of the tap. I use tap water. Mine is something like 175 to 200 ppm... Do the very tips of your leaves turn yellow? If so, that's just from the chlorine in your tap water (if that's what you use). It's nothing to be concerned about though...

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golddog

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If your PH goes up and you cannot control it - Use Physan20 at 3mL per 25gallons to sterilize and clean

Do not feed the beast (if you have the brown slime) hygrozyme!

It will clog up your pump as it eats all of your nutes.

If you are experiencing this issue, get rid of the organics, go chemical. H2O2.

At least until you research "Strange Slime Buildup on Roots" and
Introduction to the Cyanobacteria


Good Luck !


 
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supremagnetic

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its the big bloom from foxfarm.......shit sucks on the bottle it says it has worm castings and bat guano. looks like nasty chocolate milk. my plants were 4 weeks old as soon as i used it next day brown slime on roots. they say your res is supposed to be clear but hows that when foxfarm nuts are dark and milky. did 5 grows with gh nutes not a prob in dwc. herd all the hype about fox farm nutes and switched to them now plants are dying. fuck fox farm. im yanking them and going back to gh nutes. stick with what you know and dont fix it if it aint broke.....golden rule
 
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Michael Phelps

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Yo snutter so i just ordered gh flora bloom and the micro bloom like we talked about, i also got some super thrive, 45 count rockwool and some cloning gel. So this should help the plants alot, the lemon skunk is looking alittle better, the browning has pretty much stopped and kept to those two leaves, the hashplant haze is still all fucked up though, the mk ultra on the other hand is doing fantastic! its growth is skyrocketing and it looks in really good shape!
 
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