Please Help, Beginning of 3rd Weed Veg

JASON79

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hmm a week to dry?i wouldnt buy it after that shorta time buddy,,u wanna be known for DRY good quality product not that guy who sells wet shwag u know
if you dry the bud in 25c at 30 humidity and have some circulating air fully trimmed and chopped up in a drying rack spaced out well so the bud does not touch
it could be dry in 4-5 day, so the stem snaps
all dry and ready to smoke, i have done this before and it works well
you can dry over night but the smoke is not as good but still a lot better that a lot of weed you can buy
 

Elliesdaddy

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Is there something special about drying racks because the boiler room is about 24degrees and has low humidity i will check the humidity tonight...
Reason i'm asking is it has shelves in there which are side planks of wood
 

Elliesdaddy

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Just managed to get good views from the scope on the buds on the plant's,

The 8th we had the other day was probably about 70 - 80% cloudy trichomes the rest clear, checking these now

White Widow x Big Bud - 100% cloudy
The unknown one - 100% cloudy
I couldn't get a decent view on the pure ak so i cannot tell but the pure ak's buds are maturer anyway.
 
Your roots get air everytime you water if you look close you can see bubbles form in the surface as it pulls air down into the soil this is ine if the reasons why over watering is such a big deal aside from rot you are drowning the roots.
 

Elliesdaddy

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Actually purple puffinstuff these were right, flushing did not harm my plant's at all, they were not overwatered etc... it has caused no problems for the roots and bud growth has gone well
 

JASON79

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Is there something special about drying racks because the boiler room is about 24degrees and has low humidity i will check the humidity tonight...
Reason i'm asking is it has shelves in there which are side planks of wood
boiler room would work well
it will dry quicker if you have a fan in there
 

Elliesdaddy

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Just had a big laugh over a big thread i found called "how much weed is a blowjob worth" too many funny comments on it :L
 

Matchbox

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Just managed to get good views from the scope on the buds on the plant's,

The 8th we had the other day was probably about 70 - 80% cloudy trichomes the rest clear, checking these now

White Widow x Big Bud - 100% cloudy
The unknown one - 100% cloudy
I couldn't get a decent view on the pure ak so i cannot tell but the pure ak's buds are maturer anyway.
are you sure it's 100% cloudy, if it is with no clears or ambers, you have the perfect smoke! The trichs go amber when they start to degrade and loose potency.

100% cloudy is maximum potency! XD
 

Elliesdaddy

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I'll have a better look tonight! but i had to rush as lights were about to go off it's very difficult but i'm sure i couldn't find any clear ones :)
It's best to get 50percent amber isn't it, i'd like to go till 50percent amber as the buds are still growing

I thought cloudy was head high and amber was body high and you want a mixture of the both
 

tyke1973

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Dude,the info that you have been listening to is not right,the seedlings once they have there 1st true leaves should be put under the 600 hps.If you would have done this the plants would have been near flowering now.Just have the 600 about a foot of the seedlings when young,when they become used of the light then keep lowering it till its inces of the tops.At 4 week of veg if you feed good nutes the plants should be a foot tall at least.I feed nutes has soon has the seedlings have there first true leaves 1.1 ec just up the ec each week till you end up at 1.4 at week 4 of veg then 1.5 all way through flower.And a oz or two bone dry of a 600 you should pull about 7/10 if you feed right and your room is keyed.dont do to many plants under one light un less your flowering really small i mean around 6 ince
 

Matchbox

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I'll have a better look tonight! but i had to rush as lights were about to go off it's very difficult but i'm sure i couldn't find any clear ones :)
It's best to get 50percent amber isn't it, i'd like to go till 50percent amber as the buds are still growing

I thought cloudy was head high and amber was body high and you want a mixture of the both
That is roughly right with the highs. It's what you like but I prefer my weed to be at peak potency, I usually wait 'til about 70cloudy/30amber or 80cloudy/20amber as this seems to be the point where all of the clear's have gone cloudy and the cloudy ones are really cloudy and almost turning... Amber trichs is degrading THC, I've also found that more cloudy makes a nice head high and then kicks you with a harder couch lock than more amber. And the high lasts longer with mostly cloudy (probably due to it being at top potency)

just a side note 50/50 amber/cloudy is good for fruity and lemony strains as it usually involves giving them an extra week to finish up which helps to develop the terpins (oils that make it taste lemony : )

Dude,the info that you have been listening to is not right,the seedlings once they have there 1st true leaves should be put under the 600 hps.If you would have done this the plants would have been near flowering now.Just have the 600 about a foot of the seedlings when young,when they become used of the light then keep lowering it till its inces of the tops.At 4 week of veg if you feed good nutes the plants should be a foot tall at least.I feed nutes has soon has the seedlings have there first true leaves 1.1 ec just up the ec each week till you end up at 1.4 at week 4 of veg then 1.5 all way through flower.And a oz or two bone dry of a 600 you should pull about 7/10 if you feed right and your room is keyed.dont do to many plants under one light un less your flowering really small i mean around 6 ince
For 1 - it can be kinda bad to put seedlings under a high wattage light, I've done this a few times under a 400w and they've very nearly died (with temps dialled in and everything) But it has and can be done however (so I'm not going to shun this as bad advice) doesn't affect how tall or whatever they are, if anything my LED's make healthier, bushier plants than any HPS in the seedling and early veg phase. And if elliesD' had "put them under the 600w as seedlings they'd be near flowering" I don't get what your saying here, his plants are flowering and have very nearly finished.

2 - You will rarely ever be able to get a 600w a few inches from the tops without a cool tube or some crazy fan'age.

3 - Week 4 his plants were relatively tall but height is entirely strain dependant.

4 - You shouldn't really feed nutes until you see the 1st 3 bladed leaves (unless you have some shiny, seedling or starter nutes) there's enough dissolved salts in water (and in their cotelyndons) to sustain seedlings for a good 2-3 weeks.

5 - Elliesdaddy is using coco, not running hydro so EC'ing is not nessasary.

6 - He's looking to get 6-10 oz anyway and probably will so I have no idea why you felt the need to say the last part... are you reading the thread or just posting entirely irrelevant points at random parts. Everything you've written has already been said or at least hinted that elliesD' has researched...

No offense.
 

Elliesdaddy

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Tyke why would you put 1 set of leaves under a 600watt that's a waste of electric are you on about my grow? my plant's are starting there 8th week of flower tomorrow so what are you on about and i'll be happy with 6oz, my first grow starting with nothing and broke and next week i'll have oz's no complaints
 

Elliesdaddy

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Thanks matchbox, i guess that's a good point white widow x big bud is gunna give the knock out stone anyway hmm... it's not actually white though maybe i did something wrong there...
I'll have a look tonight and see plus i have some bud coming in an hour or so it's ment to be nice, i'll smoke it and decide weather i would like my bud more cloudy or amber than what i get and work from there
 

Elliesdaddy

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Oh matchbox i think i understand, so some times you can get say 70% cloudy 15 amber and 15 clear, is 100percent cloudy the best buzz of an energetic high with the best thc level so if they have all gone cloudy with no clear's left over this the best time to harvest if none are clear?
 

JASON79

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Oh matchbox i think i understand, so some times you can get say 70% cloudy 15 amber and 15 clear, is 100percent cloudy the best buzz of an energetic high with the best thc level so if they have all gone cloudy with no clear's left over this the best time to harvest if none are clear?
this is your first grow so to make sure i would wait till you see at less 30% amber
you can not get this wrong as the amber look dark red close up and black spects when you zoom out like x10
clear to cloudy can be hard to tell at first
when you have done some grow you will be able to tell easy
you do not want to havest early you can loss a lot of the yeild
 

Matchbox

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Oh matchbox i think i understand, so some times you can get say 70% cloudy 15 amber and 15 clear, is 100percent cloudy the best buzz of an energetic high with the best thc level so if they have all gone cloudy with no clear's left over this the best time to harvest if none are clear?
Yeah the best time to harvest would be when none are clear and the rest are majoritively cloudy. But that's in my preference :)

this is your first grow so to make sure i would wait till you see at less 30% amber
you can not get this wrong as the amber look dark red close up and black spects when you zoom out like x10
clear to cloudy can be hard to tell at first
when you have done some grow you will be able to tell easy
you do not want to havest early you can loss a lot of the yeild
And agreed, get it when you know for sure, then you can start dialling it down so at least you know what an amber trich looks like :)
 

tyke1973

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My advice would be in future grows and from now on put them straight on to the 600 hps light,i have no idea why you have not done this to start with just have the light about a foot of the plant tops for about a week after they have there first true leaves.Then keep lowering the light untill the light is around 6 ince of the tops,with a ossalating fan blowing across the plant tops.If you would have done the 600 has soon has the true leaves were through then you would have been around a foot tall now prob bigger i veg for 4 week and mine are around 1 1/2 ft tall at the end of week 4.
 

missnu

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That is roughly right with the highs. It's what you like but I prefer my weed to be at peak potency, I usually wait 'til about 70cloudy/30amber or 80cloudy/20amber as this seems to be the point where all of the clear's have gone cloudy and the cloudy ones are really cloudy and almost turning... Amber trichs is degrading THC, I've also found that more cloudy makes a nice head high and then kicks you with a harder couch lock than more amber. And the high lasts longer with mostly cloudy (probably due to it being at top potency)

just a side note 50/50 amber/cloudy is good for fruity and lemony strains as it usually involves giving them an extra week to finish up which helps to develop the terpins (oils that make it taste lemony : )



For 1 - it can be kinda bad to put seedlings under a high wattage light, I've done this a few times under a 400w and they've very nearly died (with temps dialled in and everything) But it has and can be done however (so I'm not going to shun this as bad advice) doesn't affect how tall or whatever they are, if anything my LED's make healthier, bushier plants than any HPS in the seedling and early veg phase. And if elliesD' had "put them under the 600w as seedlings they'd be near flowering" I don't get what your saying here, his plants are flowering and have very nearly finished.

2 - You will rarely ever be able to get a 600w a few inches from the tops without a cool tube or some crazy fan'age.

3 - Week 4 his plants were relatively tall but height is entirely strain dependant.

4 - You shouldn't really feed nutes until you see the 1st 3 bladed leaves (unless you have some shiny, seedling or starter nutes) there's enough dissolved salts in water (and in their cotelyndons) to sustain seedlings for a good 2-3 weeks.

5 - Elliesdaddy is using coco, not running hydro so EC'ing is not nessasary.

6 - He's looking to get 6-10 oz anyway and probably will so I have no idea why you felt the need to say the last part... are you reading the thread or just posting entirely irrelevant points at random parts. Everything you've written has already been said or at least hinted that elliesD' has researched...

No offense.
I start any and all seeds under a 400w Mh and have never had one get burnt up, or stunted or anything...they grow like awesome!
 

Elliesdaddy

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Got proper views on the plant's last night in 100x zoom they are about 60% cloudy the rest clear...
So got a good time for the buds to keep growing did the second flush last night so them leaves will be getting yellower soon :D

So now the plant's can get more potent, the buds can get bigger and i have plenty of time to give them another good flush or two :)
 
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