Please help!!!Berry Ryder prob!

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HiGhGuY305

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ok so i have 3 auto berry ryder growing "closet grow",exactly 2weeks and 4 days old from seed poping,4ft 4bulb t5 6500k spectrum 20,000 lumens fan pushing more than enough fresh air,75 degrees in closet,using soiless coco coir allthough i put a handfull off soil in the middle to put seed in when planted,i have canna coco a and b nutes,and using tap water thats been siting in 75 degree room temp for more than 24 hours ph is good...ok sorry about going on and on lol just trying to provide as much info as i can...ok so started using 5ml a and b to 1 gallon off canna coco nutes at 2weeks but now leaves are curling up and are yellowing in middle of leaves and what looks like nute burns "see in pic" so i flushed with just plain ph water yesterday since coco coir leaves a lot of salt build up figure it needed flush any way now i check them this morning not lookn all that better,should i still used a little nutes when i flushed?any help or advice would be greatly apreciated being as im still pretty new to growing oh and they are in 2 gallon pots thanks!
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RIKNSTEIN

RIKNSTEIN

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HiGhGuY305 said:
ok so i have 3 auto berry ryder growing "closet grow",exactly 2weeks and 4 days old from seed poping,4ft 4bulb t5 6500k spectrum 20,000 lumens fan pushing more than enough fresh air,75 degrees in closet,using soiless coco coir allthough i put a handfull off soil in the middle to put seed in when planted,i have canna coco a and b nutes,and using tap water thats been siting in 75 degree room temp for more than 24 hours ph is good...ok sorry about going on and on lol just trying to provide as much info as i can...ok so started using 5ml a and b to 1 gallon off canna coco nutes at 2weeks but now leaves are curling up and are yellowing in middle of leaves and what looks like nute burns "see in pic" so i flushed with just plain ph water yesterday since coco coir leaves a lot of salt build up figure it needed flush any way now i check them this morning not lookn all that better,should i still used a little nutes when i flushed?any help or advice would be greatly apreciated being as im still pretty new to growing oh and they are in 2 gallon pots thanks!
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No do not use nutes, you have nute burn, you fed too early. Do not nute till 3-4 week, and then only at 1/4 strength to get them use to it....good luck, the leaves will not heal but your plant will...
 
SimplySmokin

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I'll agree it appears to be nute burn, but Idon't think one should wait til 3 weeks after potting to feed. I ussually feed 1 week after potting a clone and and for seedlings I wait until its second set of true leaves and I use a 50% ratealthough I use humboldt nutes. The burn doesnt look too bad so I'm sure any damage is miniscule considering full rate was used.
 
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no you feed from day one in coco, yes you have nute burn, never run just plain water throught it, you knock youre beuffer system out, you could do with knowing youre ppm/ec levells cause when growing in coco keeping youre ec in check is crucail ...feeding 5 mill a gallon anb is very high for full bloom, ive never used more than 2 mill a liter also you using cal/mag,, go to canna.com and pull up the lite feeding chart, i go get u it, only use this thou as a rough guide, and then learn to dail in you're coco/op from there, or you need to be feeding about 1 mill a liter now and 2mill of rizho and about 150 pppm of cal/mag wich i think is 1,5 mill and that it remember coco as a buffer system that stores up nutes from day one you feed it. as i use a truncheon i think that it,

so do you use use cal/mag, also how many time u feed youre coco (how old is it)and how much when u have, have you had run of yet, i should be able to work out how to proceed with out a ec reading
 
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also in veg you want to try and get a feeding program were u can have a least one dry day in between feedings, then go to daily or 2 to 4 times daily once on full flowering, pot seize and environment will effect the amount of dry days between, also start with a ph of 6 and drop to 5.8 for flowering, but o.5 a time, this way you make mag/cal more available in veg and k more available in flowering,

you can use zym from week 3 to biuld up micro life ect, closer to flowering the better, as it will slightl6y affect youre pk values in youre coco, it will rise them slightly

or no, ive just seen youe flushed with plain water, how much run of was there and how old is youre coco, igfyou need to flush coco and bring youre ec down, u can used just youre additives, cal/mag, zym.rhizo.boost, or use only a 100 pm/0.5 mill or so a liter of AnB with the additives if the coco is still young, never plain water,
 
Sir.Ganga

Sir.Ganga

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All really good advice from these dudes...One thing instead of instructions and labels maybe a couple of good meters are in order. PPM and Ph pens or meters will allow you to be the same every time or at least very close. I see those little ladies and think...500-600ppm max. Setting your ph around 5.7 for coco will allow for a ph swing up between watering.
 
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HiGhGuY305

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still new to this only 2 grows under my belt,but not using cal/mag i wish i did but canna coco says 15ml per gallon i figured that was to much thats why i did 5ml,but ill deff use what you recomended and what should i do from here on out being as i flushed all the nutes out of the coco?thanks for all the help!
 
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also was reading in this growers guide i have that the yellow and curling up with the brown tips is form being zinc deficient what do you guys think?thanks again
 
RIKNSTEIN

RIKNSTEIN

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SimplySmokin said:
I'll agree it appears to be nute burn, but Idon't think one should wait til 3 weeks after potting to feed. I ussually feed 1 week after potting a clone and and for seedlings I wait until its second set of true leaves and I use a 50% ratealthough I use humboldt nutes. The burn doesnt look too bad so I'm sure any damage is miniscule considering full rate was used.
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spitsbuds said:
no you feed from day one in coco, yes you have nute burn, never run just plain water throught it, you knock youre beuffer system out, you could do with knowing youre ppm/ec levells cause when growing in coco keeping youre ec in check is crucail ...feeding 5 mill a gallon anb is very high for full bloom, ive never used more than 2 mill a liter also you using cal/mag,, go to canna.com and pull up the lite feeding chart, i go get u it, only use this thou as a rough guide, and then learn to dail in you're coco/op from there, or you need to be feeding about 1 mill a liter now and 2mill of rizho and about 150 pppm of cal/mag wich i think is 1,5 mill and that it remember coco as a buffer system that stores up nutes from day one you feed it. as i use a truncheon i think that it,

so do you use use cal/mag, also how many time u feed youre coco (how old is it)and how much when u have, have you had run of yet, i should be able to work out how to proceed with out a ec reading
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I can't see how a bean can be that much different from soil to hydro for the first 3-4 weeks, they still have a cotyledon that feeds them for at least the first true set of leaves, and I never give nutes for at least 3-4 weeks or until they tell me to with yellowing tips...it means the cotyledons are used up

11.jpg100.jpgDay 21 before it asked for food...Healthy...you can see the cotyledons curling and the one on the far side is turning yellow...now it needs nutes...
 
RIKNSTEIN

RIKNSTEIN

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RIKNSTEIN said:
I can't see how a bean can be that much different from soil to hydro for the first 3-4 weeks, they still have a cotyledon that feeds them for at least the first true set of leaves, and I never give nutes for at least 3-4 weeks or until they tell me to with yellowing tips...it means the cotyledons are used up

View attachment 2586608View attachment 2586610Day 21 before it asked for food...Healthy...you can see the cotyledons curling and the one on the far side is turning yellow...now it needs nutes...
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And the nutrient companies want you to use it all up quickly, so you have to buy more...learn to read your plants...I know..it's corny, but they will tell you what they want, you just need to learn to speak their language..lol
 
Sir.Ganga

Sir.Ganga

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RIKNSTEIN said:
I can't see how a bean can be that much different from soil to hydro for the first 3-4 weeks.
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The biggest difference is the medium, Hydro medium usually does not hold any nutrients so adding a little nutes is required while in soil there is enough food in the actual soil for a good start.
 
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HiGhGuY305

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after i flushed i cut back nutes and they are looking much much better.i heard the autoflower strain dosent like to much nutes the funny thing is one of the plants never got affected from when i feed them all equal amounts but thank you everyone for youre help very apreciated this site and the people on it are the best!
 
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