Please Help, I'm not sure what the problem(s) is with my girls!

Mr.LIVE.TreeZ

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Hello, I have tried researching myself but this is my first indoor grow and everything I have tried has not helped. I was leaning toward a calcium def but now I am very unsure. My girls are about 4 weeks into flower with tiny buds and the leaves are getting worse. Here is the stats and pics:

Strain: Girl Scout Cookies (sativa dominant)
Soil: Fox Farm Ocean Forest
Light: 1000w HPS
Stage: 4th week of flower
Feeding: Only when dry and plain water for about the first 30 days, then when I switched to flower I began feeding it with unsulphered mollases. When flowers began to form I tried starting nutes and shortly after is when the leaves began showing deficiencies. I make sure to PH my water at about 6.5+-.
Nutrients: (only water twice with them because I was thinking they may have been the problem) Botanicare CNS17 bloom 2-2-3
temps: I try to keep it no higher than 80, after the lights go off it's anywhere between 60-75 depending how the weather is.
Distance from light: Height differentiates a bit but nothing too bad, the girls closest and directly under the light are about 2ft from it. The light is not air cooled or anything like that.

Thank you in advance for any help!

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Mr.LIVE.TreeZ

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A little confusion I typed earlier, they did not veg for 30 days. I only vegged them about a week, then switched to 12/12. I fed just water until I started seeing flowers, then fed with mollases + water ph'd at 6.5+-.... then around day 30 tried feeding nutes as I was told thats when Fox Farm soil usually runs out of the nutes already in soil. They are in 2 gallon containers.
 

DroBlowBoy

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Those are not deficiencies, that looks to me me like it is chem burning, ARE YOU USING MORE THAN WHAT 1/2 THE LABEL SAYS TO? If so I would flush your plants with straight water and no additives for a week or so with a ph of about 6.6. If that doesn't work make sure you let your water sit in an open container to let any trace amounts chlorine evaporate out I would heat the water to about room temperature to, as not to shock the plant could buy a tank heater an air stone and a 10 gallon to for a good water reservoir. If not just get a 5 gallon bucket and a thermometer and heat some water from your tub your tub over the stove and add and stir til you get the right temp. ARE YOU USING MOLASSES EVER DAY? Do not do that, use it only out 1 a week for the end of veg til you flush your plants. PS a side note I would try and start all the plants at the same time so you get a nice and even canopy, if not you get stretchy plants with not a lot of bud, and also keep that light about 14 to 18 inches away from the top of your tallest plant to keep from stretching your plants. Next time I would also try topping and lsting your plant or a scrog grow. Super cropping at this point might not be to bad you still have a lot of time, but next time do that in veg if you can. If you need any help just contact me directly or just keep posting on this thread.
 

TXskunkKush

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Yup looks like nute burn, back off nutes start about 1/2 strength then gradually increase. Only feed every other watering
 

da8balljunkie

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Nute burn fo sho. Are you spraying them with nuted water or something? Buy a blister pack of nutes, try and stick to the same brand with each nute. It'll be more accurate with ppm and keeping everything balanced.
 
I had a similar problem,thought it was my nutes,but really was my humity in my tent,or lack of....make sure you have good air flow going in your room,and coming out.i ended buying a small humidifier and it fixed my leaf problems.jhope this helps..also sounds like your not using nutes like you should..I use nutes from beginng of veg to the end of flower..also try using about 10 -20% recomended,depending on temperatures and humidity that plays a role on the amount of nutes your plant eats and how quick it eats them..hope this helps.
 

booms111

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didnt read anybodys comments just looked at your pictures. You overfed them. Get a ppm pen and check runoff. I bet your 1200+ which is to high for soil plants. Look how glossy shiny your leaves are and the damage, 100% nute burn...
 

shahomy

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i thought nute burn always started with the tips turning brown/crispy...rest of leaf dark green.................?
 

Mr.LIVE.TreeZ

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well the consensus seems to be nute burn.... even though I only watered with nutes twice I guess it's enough to do the job if I used at full strength from the directions on the container. Thank you guys for the advice I will flush them, I also plan on switching my nutes to FF Tiger Bloom. I have watered them twice now within the last 3 days with nothing but ph'd water.
 

DroBlowBoy

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Its not that then unless you put too many nutes in. Did you even look at my comment? I could be that water filter you add in..... No Joke I have seen it before It leads to a calcium deficiency, and a magnesium one too.
 

Mr.LIVE.TreeZ

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Its not that then unless you put too many nutes in. Did you even look at my comment? I could be that water filter you add in..... No Joke I have seen it before It leads to a calcium deficiency, and a magnesium one too.
yeah I read your post thank you for the advice. You also suggested chem burn, I may have put too much nutes even though I followed the directions on the bottle. I always sit my tap water out for 24-48 hours to let the chlorine evaporate, so I do not use a filter for water.
 

DroBlowBoy

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FIM about the thread, I thought it was a different one. You should only use about half at most what the label says to to at least to begin with, your plants can get tolerant to it and you can boost it, I always stay at about half still, but that is just me.
 

Medinugs

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Classic post stretch ffof problem, imbalance/lockout/deficiency. Go soiless/coco, just quickly sayin, no time to explain in detail. Research and you'll learn why.
 
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Mr.LIVE.TreeZ

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yeah man you may be looking at some root bound issues there as well by the size of them pots. whens the last time you transplanted
never transplanted because I only vegged them a little under a week in attempts of a SOG and from my research 2 gallons are enough for the method. If they are root bound, what options do I have as they're going on week 5 of flower.
 

RAYRAY420SMOKEWEEDEREDAY

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never transplanted because I only vegged them a little under a week in attempts of a SOG and from my research 2 gallons are enough for the method. If they are root bound, what options do I have as they're going on week 5 of flower.
I heard a general good sign of having to transplant to bigger pots is you see roots sticking out the bottom of your drain holes in pots\buckets. its method i have been using and has been right every time so far. And i surprisingly had to transplant faster than i thought i was. Im no expert. Im a first time grower but as I far as I know you can still transplant it. You just going to run risk of stressing it out\stunt growth etc for that reason a lot of people would tell you not to do it. Up to you though in the end :)
 
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