please... help me finally figure this out... pics.

ok. Well... I started flushing before we came to the near consensus that it was over watering. Since it's been flushed, and its coco and holds no nutes itself, I had to re-nute... so I just finished doing that. Now I'll leave it alone for a while and hope it rights itself. Check back in a few days I guess....

thanks everyone for the input.

I'm going to put a small fan next to the plant to try to speed up the evapotranspiration (word of the day... look it up. I remember it from writing a report about the rain forest in 6th grade).

keep it posed..im curious how she turns out

so... I guess I just needed some more air flow over the plant. I pointed a fan directly at the plant... to increase transportation of water through the roots, out through the leaves, and into the air (evapotranspiration).

take a look at it 3 hours later:

looks allot better

stickyicky0420 said:

its not ph lol its a watering issue ph locks out nutes it doesnt make you plant sag.

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I could have been reading things incorrectly. But I think in the past I have had a super acidic root zone which burnt my roots. The plants drooped a bit, but not curled like this. That is why it crossed my mind.

Yeah my plants look better too when i add a fan to them after i over watered lol,kinda helps the soil dry and helps taking some of the moisture of of the leaves.

HotShot7414 said:

Yeah my plants look better too when i add a fan to them after i over watered lol,kinda helps the soil dry and helps taking some of the moisture of of the leaves.

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evapotranspiration.

M B P said:

right... I was thinking this might be along the lines of overwatering... but I'm not really convinced of that either. I was watering this plant every three days. I just switched to every two days (vegging plants are watered every 3 days... blooming plants every 2... this plant was recently sent into bloom). However, the problem actually developed when I was vegging... and watering every three days. I flushed the plant and waited a week. everything looked better. So I sent it into bloom. 8 days later... back to the same thing.

I'm flushing it now just to be safe. I guess after a few gallons of water/10ml florakleen. I'll re-nute and wait a 3,4,5 days to water again... see if conditions improve.

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I've heard that when leaves stoop and say like those seen in the pics it is a sign of dampening off/root rot which is caused in large part by overwatering. Are you watering for 25% of your plants soil space? Do you wait until the top layer of soil dries out before watering?

Soul Synergy said:

I've heard that when leaves stoop and say like those seen in the pics it is a sign of dampening off/root rot which is caused in large part by overwatering. Are you watering for 25% of your plants soil space? Do you wait until the top layer of soil dries out before watering?

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With coco it is a little different. The top layer of coco dos not really dry out much faster than the rest of the coco.

I used to also never let my coco dry. I have let it dry out more and more over time and the roots seem to prefer it. However, this does lead to more of what i think is salt build up. It is pretty easy to correct it though... if you feed at 1/2 strength every water it does not build up much. Coco totally does hold some nutrients though. More than rocks, less than soil.

I have not made up my mind yet on coco. I prefer it over peat/perlite mixes though. It has its ups and downs. Some days I want to get into something new. But damn, it is so fucking easy. Root pests love coco though.

If you use grow bags and coco... just before cutting it down let the coco dry out as much as you can without the plant wilting... cut them down, then just throw the grow bags into a lawn bag... 4 5gallon bags fit in one lawn bag easily, the whole thing is feather light when dried just right... it's so easy to deal with. Hydro media was a huge headache. Soil always brings in bugs, for me anyway. Indoor gardening... it's a pain trying to recreate what nature does effortlessly.

it wasn't necessarily over watering... more like limited air flow. Every other plant in my bloom room was fine. This one just seems to need some help in letting moisture out through its leaves.

i've really only ever grown in coco and hydroton (mixed at 60/40). Its reusable. Its easy. Its pretty simple. you can avoid a lot of pests by crushing up a mosquito dunk in and mixing it into the top inch or so of the container. It works by killing any larvae that are roaming around... not just mosquito larvae. I do have some type of extremely tiny small white dots that move very slowly around the rim of my containers. I've had them for a while... and convinced they are completely harmless. The dunks do nothing for whatever they are... But removing all dead foliage and organic material that has fallen onto the surface of the pots... and a quick shot of dr. doom every month or two keeps them in check.

I made hash and am waaaaaaaaaaay baked.