please HELP me. Leaves, brown spots, dying??

powegu

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I have two greenhouse plants which are 2.5 ft tall. I started 12/12 about 10 days ago and first preflowers have just been spotted. (there female!) However they are not looking at all healthy....The pictures show there problems.
Help would be hugely appreciated!
 

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Hey powegu,

This looks to be a hard diagnosis, but ,my might first thoughts are you may have mites, because the leaves look somewhat drained and dried out and at certain angles it appears to to have small spots of light. Can check quickly enough, just look under the leaves for small white clusters of eggs and any active mites. ( there the size of the point of a ball point pen and generally look blackish with the human eye. With a magna glass you may even be able the see individual/ specific species, like the two spotted mite etc...
Your pictures depicts only the lower half of your plants. There are (at least from what I've seen) some plants who's older lower leaves will die off as the plant grows, no one seems to know why, but they are usually replace by younger leaves soon enough, (if this is the case) and doesn't appear to be any real cause for concern.
And lastly mabey (if you used some cheap or washed out dirt) and it's just a wild possibilty: you could have some sort of slight nutrient defiecency. And only because of the specific yellowing on the tips of the leaves. But since this usually has a distinct trail running up toward the back of the leaves as well, I doubt it.

Hope you can find you answer quickly and I wish you the best in your grow!
 

powegu

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thanks for your help. i'm pretty sure i dont have mites which is good. Someone told me it could be phosphorus deficiency so I used a high phosphorus fertiliser yesterday but added quite a lot..... But they seem to have gotten worse. Could I have over fed them. I'm guessing its something to do with the NPK because I'm not using a very good fertiliser. Could the yellowing be nitrogen deficiency?
 

Tennis1

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Not sure about your soil. Not that thats the problem but it looks really compact and hard. Reg potting soil works really well.
 

mr.swishas&herb

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what kind of nutes are you using? because it looks like either nute burn or underfeeding...especially since you just switched to flowering recently...i know discoloration usually occurs for me after that point, especially indoors.
 

powegu

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i havnt really gone and bought any special stuff. Just been using the soil and basic fertilizer that my mum uses for her tomatoes!! i know that sounds bad but thats all i had to work with!
I tried a fert (15-30-15) because someone told me it could be phosphorus but this didnt seem to work. Because it could be nitrogen i'm now using 'miracle grow' 24-8-16. I'll see how that goes. I also pruned the bad leaves so I'll see if they grow back healthy.
 

Hebrew

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I have two greenhouse plants which are 2.5 ft tall. I started 12/12 about 10 days ago and first preflowers have just been spotted. (there female!) However they are not looking at all healthy....The pictures show there problems.
Help would be hugely appreciated!
I'm in the 4th week of flowering, and I've had the same prob....but it's just been a few leaves lower on the plants, so I just figure the plants not using them anymore....everything else looking great so Im just rollin with it....I feed with FF nutes once a week and they doing well.
 

mr.swishas&herb

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I'm in the 4th week of flowering, and I've had the same prob....but it's just been a few leaves lower on the plants, so I just figure the plants not using them anymore....everything else looking great so Im just rollin with it....I feed with FF nutes once a week and they doing well.
I agree with his statement, i also us Fox Farm Nutrients and they say that yellowing is natural...ive been told that the plant actually starts dying as soon as you switch it into 12/12 cycle...I would flush it out with water for like a week and then go back to basic nutrients to feed it...i know that tiger bloom (fox farm's flowering nutrient) is at 2-8-4 but that is along w/ the worm castings and bat guano...hope this is helpful info
 

powegu

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Thanks for the advice! I'll see what happens over the next week. I dont think you can get foxfarm in the uk though unfortunately.
cheers.
 

genisis

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Looks like thrips (n , pl thrips
any of various small slender-bodied insects of the order Thysanoptera, typically having piercing mouthparts and narrow feathery wings and feeding on plant sap. Some species are serious plant pests)


It looks like you are in a separate area from your living area, so I would recommend something like Hot Shot bug bomb (if you have many plants). If you only have a couple, you could spray with neem oil. The old fashioned sticky fly strips hung close to your plants will catch a bunch of them, to help control the population. They come in with the dirt, so each time you add new dirt you will need to treat them again.
 

Medi 1

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thas not bugs. its bnad soil..looks like mud and miricle grow is bad food to,. and those numbers are way hot..your ph in medium is dropped out because of that..check the run off for ph and ec. bet ya ph is low and ec is way way high...if it even reads i bet its so high
 

Medi 1

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ec is what real ppm is read in, then our ppm pens convert that with a conversion factor being either .5 or .7. is how we get the ppm readings. i know oh is out cause ive been at it years and you said right there...no pen.
cant grow with no ph pen
 

Medi 1

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if its ok then hwy the unhealthy plant ans askin for advice then..its not fine. i see a sik plant. stressed missing fingers on leaves and more....brown leaves are natural????...wow where you read that....just tryin to help out.
 

powegu

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Thanks for everyone's feedback. Here are some new pics and a few more questions.
1. what kind of yield will i get from these plants?
2. Is this definitely female?
3. Do these redish stalks matter?
thanks
 

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