Please help with Hermaphrodite decision

Cx2H

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Means light leaks are overrated. Not saying they don't hurt but not so much. :-) .
Absolutely untrue light leaks and erratic light cycles are the #1 cause of hermaphrodites.[/QUOTE]

Genetics and noobie misinformation are the number 1cause.

Thanks for coming out, god bless and good night.
 

Blue back

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How do you think breeders get seeds from clone only strains? There forced to herm USUALLY by giving them a erratic light cycle. Only way possible is stress one way or another. Sorry I should have added that.
 
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Cx2H

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How do you think breeders get seeds from clone only strains? There forced to herm usually by giving them a erratic light cycle. Only way possible
Colidal silver perhaps. Temp stress. Let me run over to tgs grow facility down the street and ask mike again how he does it.
 

Blue back

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Yes I agree unstable strain traits will herm much easier. The noobie did something to cause that. Expects can have that happen as well
 

Boatguy

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Yes I agree unstable strain traits will herm much easier. The noobie did something to cause that. Expects can have that happen as well
So what are you getting at?
You are posting as if you have something vested in this. Is there a prize?
 

Blue back

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What I'm saying is he should be more concerned about what caused it then what he's going to do with this run. If something doesn't change nothing will change.
 

CoB_nUt

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No dog in this fight, imo light leaks are overrated. My flowering plants are never in a pitch dark room. Never a herm from light getting into my flowering tent. Erratic light schedules and light leaks are not one and the same. Genetics and environment contribute to more intersex traits than light leaks IME AND IMO.
 

jcloud777

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That's fine for you, but not for me. I wouldn't smoke it I want potent fat nugs. Not to find it stop budding an starts seeding
 

Old Thcool

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Yes I agree unstable strain traits will herm much easier. The noobie did something to cause that. Expects can have that happen as well
There are numerous was to herm a plant, plants can in fact herm themselves! There was a time in the 70s when most weed that came from Columbia and Mexico was seed ridden. Then the Mexicans figures out how to grow sensimilla, but in super large fields hermies were an ever present thing and so even sensi had the occasional seed or 20 in it, all depended on the wind. Let’s face it indoors the light is 100 percent on and then BAM its dark. Outdoors the light intensity builds as the sun rises, peaks and sets. The moon is a factor, does it cause some plants to herm? Maybe? Is a pinhole gonna hermie your plants? Maybe but I doubt it. Anyway many germs are not covered in male flowers, maybe just a few show up? Just pluck them as they show up.
 

Blue back

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There are numerous was to herm a plant, plants can in fact herm themselves! There was a time in the 70s when most weed that came from Columbia and Mexico was seed ridden. Then the Mexicans figures out how to grow sensimilla, but in super large fields hermies were an ever present thing and so even sensi had the occasional seed or 20 in it, all depended on the wind. Let’s face it indoors the light is 100 percent on and then BAM its dark. Outdoors the light intensity builds as the sun rises, peaks and sets. The moon is a factor, does it cause some plants to herm? Maybe? Is a pinhole gonna hermie your plants? Maybe but I doubt it. Anyway many germs are not covered in male flowers, maybe just a few show up? Just pluck them as they show up.

I understand that plants will kick in a survival trait and herm it's self. I've grown outdoors for 30 plus years and have came up with a few seeds almost always. Indoors is a different story, if you get a herm indoors that you don't catch before it pollinated it can devastat the whole crop. You mentioned wind. Well there is a ton of wind (fans) blowing pollen around in a confined area.

Once a plant has one seed it is no longer sinsemilia. So Mex Colombo bud has never been sinsemilia. The definition of sinsemilia is seedless.
 

curious2garden

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Think hes indoor, but I grow outside and inside and bright hunters moons have 0 effect on the bud. Moon light is pretty bright compared to zipper light and open air vents.

Means light leaks are overrated. Not saying they don't hurt but not so much. :-) .
These are fascinating statements. Can you cite your sources. I'd be interested in reading these studies.

Colidal silver perhaps. Temp stress. Let me run over to tgs grow facility down the street and ask mike again how he does it.
Google Rodelization
 

curious2garden

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Hello, i’m sure I stressed my plants out or bad genetics either way I have some hermaphrodites. I didn’t realize it early on because I haven’t grown anything in a long time And barely at all (helped some).
Basically I had five out of eight plants turn into hermaphrodite’s of two different strains.
I got rid of two but three more are well into flowering and have about four or five weeks left. I’m pretty sure the other plants have already been pollinated because there had been some pollen sacs that had busted on the herme plants.
One of my questions is should I keep these plants going so I can have a decent yield? because they look really nice even though they are hermaphrodites.
2nd question Will the pollen that comes out of these hermaphrodite affect my next grow or generations of growing to come after this?
Also Will a little bit of pollen only make a couple seeds where as a bunch of pollen will destroy a whole indoor crop?
Thank you for your help
Herme in pic
Just wanted to let you know that spraying with water de-natures pollen so it's easy to clean up. As for how pollinated your plants got, that is far to speculative to expect help with. If you like their looks and it is a strain you like and you don't have something quick and easy to put in the same place, finish them and feel free to save their seed and look to see if you Rodelized them, IE stressed them into hermaphrodism.

If you know there was nothing you can point at then these plants have a high tendency to hermaphrodism in their line. While I wouldn't breed that if the smoke is really good I might run them again for that and even breed them into a line that resists hermaphrodism even with application of STS and AgNO3.

I came from a time we had to clean the seeds out. Today mostly I breed so I deal wish seeds and my personal experience is that seeds don't diminish potency but they diminish output.

Anyway good luck and I hope it's good smoke for you
 

Old Thcool

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Just wanted to let you know that spraying with water de-natures pollen so it's easy to clean up. As for how pollinated your plants got, that is far to speculative to expect help with. If you like their looks and it is a strain you like and you don't have something quick and easy to put in the same place, finish them and feel free to save their seed and look to see if you Rodelized them, IE stressed them into hermaphrodism.

If you know there was nothing you can point at then these plants have a high tendency to hermaphrodism in their line. While I wouldn't breed that if the smoke is really good I might run them again for that and even breed them into a line that resists hermaphrodism even with application of STS and AgNO3.

I came from a time we had to clean the seeds out. Today mostly I breed so I deal wish seeds and my personal experience is that seeds don't diminish potency but they diminish output.

Anyway good luck and I hope it's good smoke for you
Yeah exactly, when I was younger real seed free sensi was the high grade you payed big bucks for. Most pot was seedy. And some of that seedy weed was pretty good pot! But people hated paying for stems and seed not unlike today. But if you are not trying to market the weed then it’s just an inconvenience to have to pick seeds out. You can’t just chuck a bud into a bud blaster without straining the seed first. Well I guess you could ?
And yeah if you ran the plants in the same room with others you are gonna have a bunch of weed that could be made into oil or something if you want to sell it. But ... we aren’t in this for the money right?
 

Old Thcool

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I understand that plants will kick in a survival trait and herm it's self. I've grown outdoors for 30 plus years and have came up with a few seeds almost always. Indoors is a different story, if you get a herm indoors that you don't catch before it pollinated it can devastat the whole crop. You mentioned wind. Well there is a ton of wind (fans) blowing pollen around in a confined area.

Once a plant has one seed it is no longer sinsemilia. So Mex Colombo bud has never been sinsemilia. The definition of sinsemilia is seedless.
Tell the Mexicans their seed wasn’t sensi not me. They hacked the shit down and dried it. If most of it was seedless that was good enough to sell it as seedless. When you grow 50 plus acres of pot you won’t be tenderly checking your plants for hermies and bugs. They planted clones and got a pretty high return on seedless weed for a field crop.
 

CoB_nUt

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Just wanted to let you know that spraying with water de-natures pollen so it's easy to clean up. As for how pollinated your plants got, that is far to speculative to expect help with. If you like their looks and it is a strain you like and you don't have something quick and easy to put in the same place, finish them and feel free to save their seed and look to see if you Rodelized them, IE stressed them into hermaphrodism.

If you know there was nothing you can point at then these plants have a high tendency to hermaphrodism in their line. While I wouldn't breed that if the smoke is really good I might run them again for that and even breed them into a line that resists hermaphrodism even with application of STS and AgNO3.

I came from a time we had to clean the seeds out. Today mostly I breed so I deal wish seeds and my personal experience is that seeds don't diminish potency but they diminish output.

Anyway good luck and I hope it's good smoke for you
Agreed.
 

rob333

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Hello, i’m sure I stressed my plants out or bad genetics either way I have some hermaphrodites. I didn’t realize it early on because I haven’t grown anything in a long time And barely at all (helped some).
Basically I had five out of eight plants turn into hermaphrodite’s of two different strains.
I got rid of two but three more are well into flowering and have about four or five weeks left. I’m pretty sure the other plants have already been pollinated because there had been some pollen sacs that had busted on the herme plants.
One of my questions is should I keep these plants going so I can have a decent yield? because they look really nice even though they are hermaphrodites.
2nd question Will the pollen that comes out of these hermaphrodite affect my next grow or generations of growing to come after this?
Also Will a little bit of pollen only make a couple seeds where as a bunch of pollen will destroy a whole indoor crop?
Thank you for your help
Herme in pic
if i was u keep going and get yourself some big bud or bud xl alot of people do it here when a hermi arises u will get seed but it will be that dense u will get minamul seed
 
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