Please Need Help! 1 Week into Flowering and Plant is Sick!

I don't know, looks linked to phosphorous somehow, leaves are doing funny things, would be easier if they just burned. Leaves curling indicates a sensitivity to somthing you are giving them or pH. I think we need to see the whole picture first and the bottom leaves. I wish i could give a diagnosis but it dosen't look that simple. I will have to look at the thread when you post pics and maybe some other growers can help a little. I know it sucks when plants are sick and nothing seems to work. I need to get my books out for this one and still i don't know if they will help.

cheers man i really apreciate u given some of your time to help, i will take the plants out of the box an take full pictures top to bottom, i really hope this can be solved i will be truley gutted if these plants die! if theres anything else i can do to help u figure it out let me know

ok ive taken as many pics as i could i hope this can help determine what wrong she looks baaaad

pls guys! any help would be great!

sumbody anybody pleeeeeeese!!!

Top leaves and bud looks like you were experiencing a small nute problem going into flower, bottom leaves look nitrogen and phosphorous deficient, maybe small mag problem too.

Looking back at the thread i'm seeing a nute lockout maybe. How can i know wether you are overwatering or not but bottom leaves could definatly be this and causing nute lock and hence the top leaves.

I would say up the ferts, especially p and k but i feel that the problem is nute lockout/pH as nothing seems to be working. Give me some feedback on this please, looks like the plant has done a fair amount of stretching and has a big root system in that pot. How many grows have you done before this please?

If it was just ferts upping the dose would turn the purple stems into green ones and the new growth would be lush and nice.

well this is my 2nd grow, i think i have used low quality soil i dont have a ph meter i just had a kit an i tested in early veg an it was way to acidic so i started adding hydrated lime an i was doing this every other feed for awhile about a teaspoon to 2 litre of water an i was testing the run off an it was always still coming ou too acidic, i stopped doing this when i got to my last test (few weeks before flowering) i did this to all the plants, all my plants were in this acidic compost mix bar 1 that was in a mix with sum pearlite i managed to pick up, and the one thats in the pearlite mix looks great an the others dont 1 worse that the others but one other looks like its geting bad aswel, and when i used my last test i did the top soil an it was pretty alkaline

and all plants are "were" getting the same nuets an 2 look pretty awesum one amazing so maybe it is lock out of sum sort??

and watering i do it whenever the soil looks a little crusty on top they say poke ur finer down but i jus thit roots an it seems like im damaging i also lift a little to see if they heavy also do a check after i water to see if theres too much coming out the bottom afterwards

i was just thinking this mite be a really stupid question or perhaps not, but say if the soil is messying these ladies up.. wat if i fill the bottom of my box with a layer of gravel or good soil an start a kinda ring culture with them could it save them or??

holdenlots said:

well this is my 2nd grow, i think i have used low quality soil i dont have a ph meter i just had a kit an i tested in early veg an it was way to acidic so i started adding hydrated lime an i was doing this every other feed for awhile about a teaspoon to 2 litre of water an i was testing the run off an it was always still coming ou too acidic, i stopped doing this when i got to my last test (few weeks before flowering) i did this to all the plants, all my plants were in this acidic compost mix bar 1 that was in a mix with sum pearlite i managed to pick up, and the one thats in the pearlite mix looks great an the others dont 1 worse that the others but one other looks like its geting bad aswel, and when i used my last test i did the top soil an it was pretty alkaline

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Your reply suggests nute lock and pH problems. Hydrated lime is used in soil grows? yes, did i like it in my grow when i used it? No. The stuff is not recomended for soil grows, it is for hydroponics mainly although in the right hands yes use it in soil by all means but you apply once and that is it for a couple of months. Here is your problem most likely and with the ro water buda bing!

Your plant will probably hold onto life but suffer loads. I see a lot of problems with this plant and the soil might be sh!t but a good gardener could make it good again.

Others might agree or disagree but i think somehow you got to stabalise that plant and damage limitation. When you said hydro lime it didn't twig it could be hydrated lime. Ro water is not for indoor soil really unless you are adding all the base nutrients and salts, outdoors its fine, called rain but plants are not in little 2 gallon pots outside in the garden. I think you just made a lot of bad choices with the whole grow and they are showing. Probably get worse before it gets better and i think this is what you are experiencing. As long as the top half stays green you might be ok i think. Maybe another thread stating these problems with pics of the plant. Sparkafire might be able to help you with the hydrated lime problem, 1 teaspoon to 2 litres is a lot of hydrated lime and you did this several times! At last we are hitting on the main problems. Peace and feedback please.

Take your time here please as another mistake could be costly, the right desicion is what is needed and the right advice, that plant aint going no where so you have time to research and ask other growers before doing anything else.

man crap yes i used it alot i just figured that if the run off was so low i need to keep going wat do you mean by ro water?? an wat do u think of my ring culture idea?? would maybe adding a manure based organic mix oof something help lower the ph enuff or would there be too mcuh going into it?

Kingrow1 said:

Take your time here please as another mistake could be costly, the right desicion is what is needed and the right advice, that plant aint going no where so you have time to research and ask other growers before doing anything else.

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ye man im taking my time for sure i was thinking to flush the worst one today but i thought id wait for you or someone to reply ive been posting pls all day but you are the only person since my originall posts that seem to want to help

I think you have found your main problems and certainly ones to work on. I wouldn't know what to do from here on in, if it was me i would try a deep flush when next need watering and try to give correct pH water. I am not saying the lime is the problem but it sure seems to be and i too have had experience with it and fu@ked up a couple of my plants years ago and i used less than you. Roots will burn, nute lock and i don't know how easy it is to flush from the soil. Ro means reverse osmosis water or water that has had all its salts and minerals filtered out. Read up, ask for advice on hydrated lime and how to rectify giving the plant too much.

When i used hydrated lime my plant burnt up pretty bad, hydrated lime is a powder and will dissolve in water. All i can say now is good luck, i kinda done my bit to help. Advice for next grow is get some standard soil that a lot of growers use, top the plant as its way too stretchy, don't use hydrated lime as this stuff can burn your skin let alone a small plant in a pot and get some normal water, ro water is not for new growers unless your water has a lot of lead, iron and contaminates in, most tap water is good and you can find out what is in your tap water easily from the supplier. Learn as you grow dude. Start a new thread and hope someone has advice. Keep me posted too so i can see the results. Peace

I did however like your ferts, have used some of the range and heard good things about them. Peace

Kingrow1 said:

I think you have found your main problems and certainly ones to work on. I wouldn't know what to do from here on in, if it was me i would try a deep flush when next need watering and try to give correct pH water. I am not saying the lime is the problem but it sure seems to be and i too have had experience with it and fu@ked up a couple of my plants years ago and i used less than you. Roots will burn, nute lock and i don't know how easy it is to flush from the soil. Ro means reverse osmosis water or water that has had all its salts and minerals filtered out. Read up, ask for advice on hydrated lime and how to rectify giving the plant too much.

When i used hydrated lime my plant burnt up pretty bad, hydrated lime is a powder and will dissolve in water. All i can say now is good luck, i kinda done my bit to help. Advice for next grow is get some standard soil that a lot of growers use, top the plant as its way too stretchy, don't use hydrated lime as this stuff can burn your skin let alone a small plant in a pot and get some normal water, ro water is not for new growers unless your water has a lot of lead, iron and contaminates in, most tap water is good and you can find out what is in your tap water easily from the supplier. Learn as you grow dude. Start a new thread and hope someone has advice. Keep me posted too so i can see the results. Peace

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ok man thanks for you advice luckily i wasnt using ro i fill all my bottles from the tap which was a ph of bout 7 an i let it with the cap off for 24hrs at least

Kingrow1 said:

I did however like your ferts, have used some of the range and heard good things about them. Peace

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cool thats good to hear i thought they were crap aswel! can u tell me what would be the best thing to try find answers quickly like what is this hospital group and how do i ask the members to help cant see where to post?

and for the hydrated lime it was all i could get i just thought it was all the same silly me it came in a liquid state though actually and if left in the air it went off

Hydrated lime i used was powder, smelt strong and even small amounts burnt the hell out of my plant. May not be the same stuff but hydrated lime is hydrated lime, maybe yours was premixed, i put mine on the soil and watered in. This is where a hydro grower might be able to help. I do feel that we are getting to the main problem but this thread has taken a lot out of me, at first i though the problem would never appear and the plant would continue to get worse, it may still do even though it is getting better so wait a while for results. The hospital group is easy to get to just go to groups or better still post sparkafire a message, he is a good grower as are the rest of the members, this thing is just starting and still slow but in time the group might get better and bigger. I need to research this liquid hydrated lime and hydrated lime just to be sure of myself too and for future reference. Maybe tomorrow i can post what i found out but for tonight i hope we have got somewhere.

Other opinions on this thread from other growers would be appreciated as well please. Peace