PM battle.

trapdevil

trapdevil

Well-Known Member
Unfortunately back in this section.


I thought I rid the room of PM but it has appeared again and ugh.

Temps are averaging 78. Humidity is averaging at 41.
74-81 temp
38-46 Humidity
4 fans circulating and blowing on the canopy

Rdwc.
10 plants. 4x10 scrog area, ish.

Topped twice. Lollipoped a good bit. Don’t think any leaves are really touching in flower.

Veg is a bit more wild but still not bad

1600 watts of hps.

I did a sulfur burn before these girls came into the flower room.

My veg room is kind of connected and shares and exchanges air so as a result i’m seeing some PM in veg area..

My question, other than fuxking bleaching, sulfur burning and physan 20 cleaning and scrubbing.

Hitting the girls in veg with greencure to try and build some immunity.

Should i hit them with a sulfur burn in veg for like a week in the veg room and try to clean everything in there and in the mean time clean the flower area with nothing in jt.

What else do i need to do cleaning wise to get this shit got?

I thought my environmental stuff was good so it shouldn’t be popping up so i’m quite confused...

I’ll clean and sulfur burn the other room i change in and mix the utes and stuff in case it’s like lingering in there .??

Really worries about the girls i have in veg i see it on and assuming the rest in veg have them also so i’d rather not toss everything in there but Faaack
 
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SunRunGun

New Member
Fuck. PM. soon as i see it i just toss and start over. but tbh I never bucked it at the place where it happened. When I moved I cleaned everything and threw a lot of stuff away. started over with new from seed. but yea i never was able to. got hit hard once and then it never left even ran rh 40% and still had it. I honestly thought it was in my mini splits!? I'll be watching this thread to see, hope you are able to get rid of it.
 
trapdevil

trapdevil

Well-Known Member
SunRunGun said:
Fuck. PM. soon as i see it i just toss and start over. but tbh I never bucked it at the place where it happened. When I moved I cleaned everything and threw a lot of stuff away. started over with new from seed. but yea i never was able to. got hit hard once and then it never left even ran rh 40% and still had it. I honestly thought it was in my mini splits!? I'll be watching this thread to see, hope you are able to get rid of it.
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I feel that.

I’m hoping burning sulfur for like a week or two during veg and during that also burning the flower room and bleach and then moving them in. But maybe it’s too late.

Just have like 30 in veg and don’t wanna have to toss everything haha.

I know some say it’s “systemic “ but idk i haven’t found any hard proof but millions of pm spores in a room would make it seem systemic for sure. maybe an enclosed spaced with multiple ways of attacking it it could be rid of haha maybe that’s wishful thinking.
but even starting over theoretically it would still be lingering??
 
Blent

Blent

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You'll struggle to remove all spores and they may lie dormant for a good while. PMspores are also everywhere, floating through the air..
Here's what you need to do:
Your plants will naturally defend themselves for 90% of their life span of they have the building blocks to do so. By adding a silica solution to your reservoir your plants will be able to develop strong and thick cell walls. This is like a sunscreen for PM as the spores are not able to penetrate the cellular membrane and distribute into the leaf. Naturally as leaves get older and late in flower when they become brittle these spores will make their way through so yes, you should make some effort to clean the place up. Also look where your air is coming from, it might be worth pluming the intake from another place.
 
trapdevil

trapdevil

Well-Known Member
Blent said:
You'll struggle to remove all spores and they may lie dormant for a good while. PMspores are also everywhere, floating through the air..
Here's what you need to do:
Your plants will naturally defend themselves for 90% of their life span of they have the building blocks to do so. By adding a silica solution to your reservoir your plants will be able to develop strong and thick cell walls. This is like a sunscreen for PM as the spores are not able to penetrate the cellular membrane and distribute into the leaf. Naturally as leaves get older and late in flower when they become brittle these spores will make their way through so yes, you should make some effort to clean the place up. Also look where your air is coming from, it might be worth pluming the intake from another place.
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Silica. Rad right on.

and my air is coming from an adjacent room but has a filter on it so the air should be clean coming in
 
curious2garden

curious2garden

Well-Known Mod
Staff member
trapdevil said:
Unfortunately back in this section.


I thought I rid the room of PM but it has appeared again and ugh.

Temps are averaging 78. Humidity is averaging at 41.
74-81 temp
38-46 Humidity
4 fans circulating and blowing on the canopy

Rdwc.
10 plants. 4x10 scrog area, ish.

Topped twice. Lollipoped a good bit. Don’t think any leaves are really touching in flower.

Veg is a bit more wild but still not bad

1600 watts of hps.

I did a sulfur burn before these girls came into the flower room.

My veg room is kind of connected and shares and exchanges air so as a result i’m seeing some PM in veg area..

My question, other than fuxking bleaching, sulfur burning and physan 20 cleaning and scrubbing.

Hitting the girls in veg with greencure to try and build some immunity.

Should i hit them with a sulfur burn in veg for like a week in the veg room and try to clean everything in there and in the mean time clean the flower area with nothing in jt.

What else do i need to do cleaning wise to get this shit got?

I thought my environmental stuff was good so it shouldn’t be popping up so i’m quite confused...

I’ll clean and sulfur burn the other room i change in and mix the utes and stuff in case it’s like lingering in there .??

Really worries about the girls i have in veg i see it on and assuming the rest in veg have them also so i’d rather not toss everything in there but Faaack
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Marrone Regalia, you can get it on Amazon, horrifically expensive and worth every penny. It's also organic.
 
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christopher jordan

Well-Known Member
trapdevil said:
Unfortunately back in this section.


I thought I rid the room of PM but it has appeared again and ugh.

Temps are averaging 78. Humidity is averaging at 41.
74-81 temp
38-46 Humidity
4 fans circulating and blowing on the canopy

Rdwc.
10 plants. 4x10 scrog area, ish.

Topped twice. Lollipoped a good bit. Don’t think any leaves are really touching in flower.

Veg is a bit more wild but still not bad

1600 watts of hps.

I did a sulfur burn before these girls came into the flower room.

My veg room is kind of connected and shares and exchanges air so as a result i’m seeing some PM in veg area..

My question, other than fuxking bleaching, sulfur burning and physan 20 cleaning and scrubbing.

Hitting the girls in veg with greencure to try and build some immunity.

Should i hit them with a sulfur burn in veg for like a week in the veg room and try to clean everything in there and in the mean time clean the flower area with nothing in jt.

What else do i need to do cleaning wise to get this shit got?

I thought my environmental stuff was good so it shouldn’t be popping up so i’m quite confused...

I’ll clean and sulfur burn the other room i change in and mix the utes and stuff in case it’s like lingering in there .??

Really worries about the girls i have in veg i see it on and assuming the rest in veg have them also so i’d rather not toss everything in there but Faaack
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Negative ion generator is how i cleaned the room plants and every thing else, after a hard defoliation. Basically any thing that had pm on it or near it, or where leaves ran together. Plus a dilute h2o2 spray down. Beat it week 4.
 
kgp

kgp

Well-Known Member
Man, too bad to see you back here. Sulfur has worked with me 100%. I recently got a cut that had some pm on it. I burn the sulfur, twice a week for a couple weeks as an overkill. Its been several weeks and I am convinced its gone. Maybe a few more burns every couple days. The PM will change to a powder instead of tiny hairs when it is killed.

PM is not systematic, though many will disagree. My only advice is to burn often and keep doing so even after you dont see any new spots to be safe. I would not recommend burning for a whole week, maybe a couple hours a night for a week or so.

Pay attention to your temps too. Sulfur will crystallize in low temps and will turn the useful vapor into micro crystal that just fall to the floor, so the warmer you can keep your room during the burn, the more chance of the sulfur staying as vapor and coating the leaves, the surfaces in the grow area, and nooks and crannies all around.

Just never burn when lights are on.
 
trapdevil

trapdevil

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Could I burn sulfur in veg room.

but the veg room shares air with flowe room. Flower room has some girls in late flower. should i avoid burning in the veg in case it makes flower room reek and taste like sulfur
 
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Justkickinit420

Active Member
trapdevil said:
Unfortunately back in this section.


I thought I rid the room of PM but it has appeared again and ugh.

Temps are averaging 78. Humidity is averaging at 41.
74-81 temp
38-46 Humidity
4 fans circulating and blowing on the canopy

Rdwc.
10 plants. 4x10 scrog area, ish.

Topped twice. Lollipoped a good bit. Don’t think any leaves are really touching in flower.

Veg is a bit more wild but still not bad

1600 watts of hps.

I did a sulfur burn before these girls came into the flower room.

My veg room is kind of connected and shares and exchanges air so as a result i’m seeing some PM in veg area..

My question, other than fuxking bleaching, sulfur burning and physan 20 cleaning and scrubbing.

Hitting the girls in veg with greencure to try and build some immunity.

Should i hit them with a sulfur burn in veg for like a week in the veg room and try to clean everything in there and in the mean time clean the flower area with nothing in jt.

What else do i need to do cleaning wise to get this shit got?

I thought my environmental stuff was good so it shouldn’t be popping up so i’m quite confused...

I’ll clean and sulfur burn the other room i change in and mix the utes and stuff in case it’s like lingering in there .??

Really worries about the girls i have in veg i see it on and assuming the rest in veg have them also so i’d rather not toss everything in there but Faaack
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When a pm spore lands on leaf surface it roots a taproot and draws the water from the leaf. This happens with high humidity but more common with high nitrogen levels.
Lower nitrogen but more importantly add amino acids before calcium to create pectin.
Once the pm tap root sets root there is no water to uptake just pectin. This will eliminate pm.
I now keep high humidity high temps (great VPD) w no pm, ever
 
trapdevil

trapdevil

Well-Known Member
Blent said:
You'll struggle to remove all spores and they may lie dormant for a good while. PMspores are also everywhere, floating through the air..
Here's what you need to do:
Your plants will naturally defend themselves for 90% of their life span of they have the building blocks to do so. By adding a silica solution to your reservoir your plants will be able to develop strong and thick cell walls. This is like a sunscreen for PM as the spores are not able to penetrate the cellular membrane and distribute into the leaf. Naturally as leaves get older and late in flower when they become brittle these spores will make their way through so yes, you should make some effort to clean the place up. Also look where your air is coming from, it might be worth pluming the intake from another place.
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link to which silica i should use ?
Justkickinit420 said:
When a pm spore lands on leaf surface it roots a taproot and draws the water from the leaf. This happens with high humidity but more common with high nitrogen levels.
Lower nitrogen but more importantly add amino acids before calcium to create pectin.
Once the pm tap root sets root there is no water to uptake just pectin. This will eliminate pm.
I now keep high humidity high temps (great VPD) w no pm, ever
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Make your nute mix as normal... Reduce N a bit. Before I add Cal Mag add amino acids and stir and then feed ?
 
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Justkickinit420

Active Member
trapdevil said:
link to which silica i should use ?


Make your nute mix as normal... Reduce N a bit. Before I add Cal Mag add amino acids and stir and then feed ?
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Start w aminos, then cal mag after the rest and yes lower N and your golden.
It’s gonna take a few weeks depending on size the the pm will diminish on its own. Mix amino w calmag and foliar to speed up the process.
This process also helps Buds last longer as pectin is natural preservative.
 
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Justkickinit420

Active Member
As far as pm combat the silica raises leaf ph to above 7 where pm does not thrive. Any silica will due, agisil 16 is what I use.
Treat internally to reduce the needs of bandaids(sprays)
 
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