Potent natural buzzes(Kratom, skullcap...)

I found kava at walgreens but I think the stuff they have isn't usually fresh. I took 10 pills with no effects. I would use an online source. I have been looking for similar highs. not cause weed bothers me. I love it. but got to quit sometimes or I just don't get high and smoke way too much. keeping my tolerance down. and yeah don't spell things wrong, I have started using another forum for my halucinogens cause I spelled something wrong on here and no one would take the thread seriously. Maybe if I repost with the spelling right someone will give advice.

With kava you have to do it several times to get a affect , but some people will never fell it like myself

You are also susposto mix it with a fat or litchen for the body to assorb it right

Anybody ever try mucuna pruiens their susposto jack up your testorone and HGH , I just ordered some

I love kratom to much I have ben addicted to it several times - I got to order more kratom

I should notice effects. Some of my friends will take Xanax and opiates or even LSD and mushrooms and have little to no affect while I'm sitting there feeling like jelly or looking at all the Aztec war paint on their face.

Lol hopefully I will get some nice results. I just got it today but didn't have time to brew up a tea before work. Does kava make you forgetful?

Mucuna? No, tell me how that goes while I read up
Yeah you might not want to type wrong on any forum to be honest. Haha sometimes I type wrong but it's always due to intoxication or this god damned iPhone.

Thanks for your input on that. With my luck im prolly one of those people. I have a high tolerance for weird things. including coke, opiates, and salvia. People i know take adderall and shit like that, and I hate that shit. No positive effects. Got to drink with opiates.

LIBERTYCHICKEN said:

With kava you have to do it several times to get a affect , but some people will never fell it like myself

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I don't like aderall either, just makes me feel like crap. Makes me productive, but feel gross.

Opiates now... Ahhh opiates

lol yeah lately i been doing percs with a few beers, or a shot or two. and feeling good. I tried heroin once, did a good line, my bro got fucked up, i just felt tired, not high or nothing. We also split a g of coke another time and i only felt like doing more, cause i didnt get anything from it lol. he was good though. those were my only 2 times with those, and thats the limit. I like smoking so if i get my hands on some opium id do it, some people gave me some free, didnt feel it, which shocked me cause it was free, wouldnt think they would give me fake shit free. But it was red rock, heard that was shitty.

high|hgih said:

I should notice effects. Some of my friends will take Xanax and opiates or even LSD and mushrooms and have little to no affect while I'm sitting there feeling like jelly or looking at all the Aztec war paint on their face.

Lol hopefully I will get some nice results. I just got it today but didn't have time to brew up a tea before work. Does kava make you forgetful?

Mucuna? No, tell me how that goes while I read up

Yeah you might not want to type wrong on any forum to be honest. Haha sometimes I type wrong but it's always due to intoxication or this god damned iPhone.

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I have never encountered anyone who, after taking 4 grams of real mushrooms that have been dried properly and stored properly, did not feel anything. I recall meeting a few folk who actually boasted (why would anyone boast something like that?) that they have never felt the effects of mushrooms. Being the competetive and contrary person I am, I wound up giving them some of mine. Imagine my satisfaction when they came to me wanting to know how long the high lasts and when can they expect to come back down.

That's true they always end up getting their ass kicked at some point. The stuff has to make its way through your body sometimes. One of my friends always bitches and moans about getting no visuals yet he won't ever eat more than two grams.

Last time I gave him 3 expecting him to eat them all(they were potent) then he ate half and saved the other half for 'personal reasons'. 'I don't even get visuals anyways' bitch mode voice. God I hate how he goes bitch mode all the time.

Lol I don't know. I guess for some people they just need a little more.

nicktater said:

lol yeah lately i been doing percs with a few beers, or a shot or two. and feeling good. I tried heroin once, did a good line, my bro got fucked up, i just felt tired, not high or nothing. We also split a g of coke another time and i only felt like doing more, cause i didnt get anything from it lol. he was good though. those were my only 2 times with those, and thats the limit. I like smoking so if i get my hands on some opium id do it, some people gave me some free, didnt feel it, which shocked me cause it was free, wouldnt think they would give me fake shit free. But it was red rock, heard that was shitty.

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There is a difference between "not feeling it", and "not getting the desired or expected effects". I know many who simply get tired from opiates, but one must learn to enjoy the effects of such drugs, the same holds true for hypnotics. In the old days it was common for people to not feel anything the first few times they smoked pot. The reality was that the pot was very weak and you had to go looking for the intoxication. Now, I can't imagine any uninitiated person taking a few hits from some quality smoke and coming away unaffected.

high|hgih said:

That's true they always end up getting their ass kicked at some point. The stuff has to make its way through your body sometimes. One of my friends always bitches and moans about getting no visuals yet he won't ever eat more than two grams.

Last time I gave him 3 expecting him to eat them all(they were potent) then he ate half and saved the other half for 'personal reasons'. 'I don't even get visuals anyways' bitch mode voice. God I hate how he goes bitch mode all the time.

Lol I don't know. I guess for some people they just need a little more.

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I have a close friend who is a bit of a puzzle. I have given him any number of different pills - we both like pills but I tend to like variety and he likes what he knows. Anyway, he trusts me.

We manged to aquire two bottles of "liquid" oxycodone. I gave him about 15 mg and after an hour he claimed he didn't feel it. I could tell that he did, as he was talking a mile a minute. He wound up giving me his bottle. This guy cannot "feel" what he is unacustomed to. I gave him three soma once. He was staggering all the while claiming that he didn't feel a thing. I got some op 40's, did the necessary process in order for us to snort them and gave him a huge line. "nope, I don't feel a thing". consternated, I gave him even more and although it was obvious to us all that he was nodding, his eyes rolling up into his head, he claimed he didn't feel a thing.

I gave him a reasonable dose of methaqualone once, certain that he would not only feel it but thank me for the wonderful experience - nope, "I don't feel anything, are you sure these are real?" So the next time I doubled the dose. After about half an hour he gave me the keys to his car, deciding that he could not drive - when I got us to his house he got out of the car and promptly did a face plant in his front yard. It took me a long time to determine that his idea of "feeling" something was being completely fucked up. He has an inability to measure smaller effects on his perception. Eventually though, sometimes years, he managed to appreciate everything I give him from dilaudid to mdma but I have to carefully calculate the doses for him, it has to be enough to truely impress him but not so much that he goes over the edge. Great guy though.

canndo said:

There is a difference between "not feeling it", and "not getting the desired or expected effects". I know many who simply get tired from opiates, but one must learn to enjoy the effects of such drugs, the same holds true for hypnotics. In the old days it was common for people to not feel anything the first few times they smoked pot. The reality was that the pot was very weak and you had to go looking for the intoxication. Now, I can't imagine any uninitiated person taking a few hits from some quality smoke and coming away unaffected.

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Yeah your prolly right on the opiates at least. Cause the first 2 times i just got tired, so third time, which was recent, after years of maturing, took 3 percs, with some jagar and beer and weed, and was feeling it a little to strong. now i just take one or two with a few beers, and feel great. but cant do them just alone. Never seem to feel anything. Although i dont like to take alot when it comes to those, so i prolly also under dose with it. But with the opium i smoked alot of it, cause i didnt feel anything the first few times. Still nothing, was prolly fake. And i dont think i feel uppers the same as most people, everyones different, I dont even try uppers anymore.

And im pretty certain salvia hits me diff, me and 2 others smoked some, and I had to do a whole bong load, while they both floated away with one or 2 hits.

nicktater said:

Yeah your prolly right on the opiates at least. Cause the first 2 times i just got tired, so third time, which was recent, after years of maturing, took 3 percs, with some jagar and beer and weed, and was feeling it a little to strong. now i just take one or two with a few beers, and feel great. but cant do them just alone. Never seem to feel anything. Although i dont like to take alot when it comes to those, so i prolly also under dose with it. But with the opium i smoked alot of it, cause i didnt feel anything the first few times. Still nothing, was prolly fake. And i dont think i feel uppers the same as most people, everyones different, I dont even try uppers anymore.

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Either your opium was fake or you smoked it wrong. I have chastised a few for smoking it wrong. sometimes they just don't get it and have come back with "this stuff is shit", "how did you smoke it?", I put it in a pipe and put a torch over it. "oh man, you wasted it" is my response. A lot of real opium was wasted back then. the active components will simply catch fire and burn off if you torch opium. Opium must be cooked, heated to vapor and that vapor inhaled. Any other way is pretty much a waste.

The first few times I did opiates I didn't feel them either.

They are strange. Now anywhere from 10-30mg is a good dose at least with hydrocodone. Obviously prefer oxy

Everyone thinks that opiates are slam bang HARD core chemicals. The truth of the matter is that they are rather subtle, especially at first. Other than just the sleepiness, it takes some skill (I suppose that is the word), in orde to appreciate their effects - it is a sort of aquired taste I suppose. Some say the same about good cocaine but I have given very good cocaine to people who had a problem putting their finger on their altered effects at first. I had a girlfriend that needed several sessions of an eighth of a gram per session until she finally got what she was supposed to feel. Of course after that, well, she liked it a lot, far more than I had planned.

XD sounds freaky. It's weird how some people are like that.
Opiates are an acquired taste I like how you put that.

Til someone breaks out the Ron

Okay what's the best way to prepare this kava? I keep reading things saying to put fatty stuff in there like 2% etc.. Now, why is this done? How beneficial is it to do this?

And what is the way to prepare this? Someone said to just kneed it in cold water, so ill try that. But if someone has experimented themseles(sure they have) lol what is the best method of preparation?

Yeah i just tourched it, thats what the dude told me to do, he told me to put it over my bud, which was dank, i think it was fake and the dude wanted to me to feel the high from my dank and get the placebo thing from the opium. He said he felt it from that way. But anyway doesnt matter, it was prolly shit, and i should have vaped.

high|hgih said:

Okay what's the best way to prepare this kava? I keep reading things saying to put fatty stuff in there like 2% etc.. Now, why is this done? How beneficial is it to do this?

And what is the way to prepare this? Someone said to just kneed it in cold water, so ill try that. But if someone has experimented themseles(sure they have) lol what is the best method of preparation?

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I think the fatty stuff pulls out the alkaloids more or something... supposed to make it hit you better. I can't really help ya with how to prepare it. I usually just throw it down the hatch like I do kratom. After doing it for so long I get everything down quick enough to never taste it. So how do you like that smell of kava? haha... after you taste it... it will never smell the same. Oh and like someone else said, it can take a few times before you start getting the full effects. I'm not sure how that works... but it seems to be common. I'm pretty sure I noticed it right away though. But it did grow on me.

When making the drink some people strain out the root junk... and others don't. I suppose you need to use a little more if you strain it out.

I did a bunch last night I'm sure somewhere between 7 and 20 grams(large difference I know, but I just kept eating scoops like I would kratom)
It is very nice. I became pretty intoxicated last night. I was at my friends house with his girlfriend and I could hardly even talk. Lol I kept stumbling over my words and stopping mid sentence because I didn't care or something. I was also very stoned.. Point is I felt the kava, it was nice.. I felt tingly everywhere, kind of dizzy, and my mood was lifted a whole lot.

The taste and smell aren't even bad to me! I think it is easier to eat than kratom, but that may be because I haven't done it in excess yet xD

Have you tried kava and kratom together before skuxx? I feel like it'd be awesome.
And how addictive is it compared to kratom? Obviously not physically addictive, but there is a big factor of mental addiction to kratom with me. I'm going to do some before I go into work today, I'll see how it affects my day