Powdery Mildew BACK AGAIN

bongmarley7

bongmarley7

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FUCK MY LIFE, SO i when i finally thought everything was gone and no more powdery mildew (I even sulfur burned and neem oil sprayed TWICE). i had PM on previous plants , originated from a clone given to me GAGKFDGSBDGBKGSF FUCK. anyways. It murdered my garden. it has been haunting me since october. I started my current plants from seed. Ace of spade, Strawberry cough, and sour cream. NO signs of PM have been evident. Its now week 4 of flower and i'm giving a last trimming and what do i see on my (literally the best plants ive ever gardened yet) I see the tiniest white little fuzzy patch....=( literally my whole energy has been put down by seeing this. I have searched EVERY plant OVER AND OVER and found maybe a totaly of 5 leaves with Small traces of PM.....I need some encouragement that these bitches will pull through. I have sulfur vaporizer and Neem Oil. Should i Sulfur burn and then Neem Spray tomorrow or VisaVersa? Any knowledge on if this will potentially hold it off...? doesnt get hotter than 75 and not below 70....humidity is like 35-40(AZ) so idk what else to say or do. Just sad....so i must go dab
 
bongmarley7

bongmarley7

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just gave a heavy spray with neem oil. and will do a sulfur burn in a couple days. hopeful that will prevent it . fingers crossed
 
TentGrower101

TentGrower101

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I had the sam problem, I geuss u know it is systemic(like herpies). In otherwords, the sulpher wont kill it just piss it off. The sulpher changes the acidity of ur air, making it harder for the PM to grow. Stop spraying Neem. That wont work. Here's what I suggest, and I have fought the same battle bro. Fill ur burner half way with sulpher. U have to burn when the plant has moisture on it's leaves so usually around 4 hours after lights out. Burn 4 hour, of course I do stick my burner on a timer. Turn all fans off just before burn. Do this 2 nights in a row. Give it a day or 2 and bomb that bitch again. Then do it once a week until u are 2 weeks from harvest. Like I said, this will only keep the PM at bay. You will see it return. When u harvest give it an H2O2 bath. No problem. Stop the Neem, this will cause ur calyx's to stop forming!!!Afgooooooooo 003.jpg
 
TentGrower101

TentGrower101

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Once agoin, u can not permantly get rid of it during flower, u can only keep it at bay, and if u keep spraying Neem oil(peanut butter) all over ur plants u will fuck it up. There is a product u buy and feed ur plant and it will cure it of the Herpies, but it can only be done in VEGGGGGGGGGGGG. Please stop spraying ur plant while in flower!!!
 
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ogreb

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I've used Neem till the last 2 weeks of flower.

Never did anything to the plant.

Just using high PH water spray will work against PM.
 
jessica d

jessica d

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ya late in flower i would use milk, pm wash, peroxide or baking soda but pm wash is my choice. try not to mix remedies especially neem or sm90
 
oakley1984

oakley1984

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what is your growing medium?
if it is soil/soilless there are options available to you that 99% dont know about ;)
 
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ogreb

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H2O2 baths are easy.

Use one small bottle in 4 gallons of water....have another container full of plain water to rinse.( Or a hose with low pressure )

Take buds and swish them around in the H2O2 bath (length of time depends on size of bud )....then rinse with clean water ( replace as necessary )

You'll see a greasy sheen on the water...that's PM.

To dry..simply hang dry using an oscillating fan. Those wooden laundry racks work good.

Doesn't take that long...not does it affect taste or smell.

Just make sure to rinse properly and thoroughly !
 
oakley1984

oakley1984

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Okay, altho every suggestion in this thread is not terrible (sorry guys!) but alas is not Right.

Doing research you will find indeed that the things mentioned in this thread will help Control powdery mildew, but neither treat nor prevent.
Powdery mildew is as previously stated... systemic. meaning it is Within the plant itself, even by controlling outward symptoms it will rear its ugly head, again and again.
Understanding that PM is a systemic mold, the best way to go about treating and preventing PM is by battling it within the plant itself. Now one of the readily available methods for treating powdery mildew... and one of the most effective ive seen for a spray, is a product called Serenade. The ingredient in Serenade that makes it so effective is a bacterial strain know as Bacillius Subtillis. This bacterial strain... Is systemic! the catch tho, it is very poorly absorbed into the plant via foliage (eg spraying) So when you spray Serenade, it attack the mold spores directly on the plant, then dies off due to an inhospitable environment. So alas my search began into trying to find a way to inoculate my plants with this particular bacterial strain. The reason being... after further research into this bacterial strain and discovering that it indeed was a systemic bacteria... a side note of what I learned during this research, is that Bacillius Subtillis, EATS powdery mildew, From the inside out. So by inoculating your plants with this bacteria strain, they render the plant virtually immune to that particular fungi.


So alas you get the final answers from my research

General Hydroponics Subculture-B
Advanced Nutrients Voodoo Juice

Are both a significant source of Bacillius subtillis, and are already well tailored to plant use.

Happy Growing
-oakley
 
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kindnug

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If you increase air-flow +/or add dehumidifier + clean room before next crop it shouldn't return.
You may not be able to save the current infected crop> but you can prevent the new crop from infection.
Try to keep it ~50% humidity with good air-movement and it shouldn't be a problem next time around.
 
Milovan

Milovan

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You can use 1 part milk to 9 parts water all the way
up to harvest without any ill effects to the outcome.
Very easy to get rid of pm for good.
Backing soda is merely a bandaid and the pm will
reappear. Spit works excellent and will rid pm for good.
 
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PurpleBuz

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bongmarley7 said:
FUCK MY LIFE, SO i when i finally thought everything was gone and no more powdery mildew (I even sulfur burned and neem oil sprayed TWICE). i had PM on previous plants , originated from a clone given to me GAGKFDGSBDGBKGSF FUCK. anyways. It murdered my garden. it has been haunting me since october. I started my current plants from seed. Ace of spade, Strawberry cough, and sour cream. NO signs of PM have been evident. Its now week 4 of flower and i'm giving a last trimming and what do i see on my (literally the best plants ive ever gardened yet) I see the tiniest white little fuzzy patch....=( literally my whole energy has been put down by seeing this. I have searched EVERY plant OVER AND OVER and found maybe a totaly of 5 leaves with Small traces of PM.....I need some encouragement that these bitches will pull through. I have sulfur vaporizer and Neem Oil. Should i Sulfur burn and then Neem Spray tomorrow or VisaVersa? Any knowledge on if this will potentially hold it off...? doesnt get hotter than 75 and not below 70....humidity is like 35-40(AZ) so idk what else to say or do. Just sad....so i must go dab
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Get some Potassium Bicarbonate and (look up dosages on the internet) spray it every other day. You can mix some neem oil in, but do need to watch for foliage burn. Keep the spray weak, dilute and wet all foliage including undersides of leaves thoroughly. If the plants are small consider dipping.

Once a day raise the temperature in your grow room to 85-95F for an hour or two. Maybe on the days when your not spraying.

Make sure you have humidity under control, less than 60%
 
Milovan

Milovan

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Spit for pm on the leaves only and diluted milk for pm on the buds!
Or just diluted milk all the way around.
Either way, leaves no residue or ill taste and rids the pm.
Guaranteed! Sounds funny but it works perfect.
 
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Dale Earnhardt

Member
oakley1984 said:
Okay, altho every suggestion in this thread is not terrible (sorry guys!) but alas is not Right.

Doing research you will find indeed that the things mentioned in this thread will help Control powdery mildew, but neither treat nor prevent.
Powdery mildew is as previously stated... systemic. meaning it is Within the plant itself, even by controlling outward symptoms it will rear its ugly head, again and again.
Understanding that PM is a systemic mold, the best way to go about treating and preventing PM is by battling it within the plant itself. Now one of the readily available methods for treating powdery mildew... and one of the most effective ive seen for a spray, is a product called Serenade. The ingredient in Serenade that makes it so effective is a bacterial strain know as Bacillius Subtillis. This bacterial strain... Is systemic! the catch tho, it is very poorly absorbed into the plant via foliage (eg spraying) So when you spray Serenade, it attack the mold spores directly on the plant, then dies off due to an inhospitable environment. So alas my search began into trying to find a way to inoculate my plants with this particular bacterial strain. The reason being... after further research into this bacterial strain and discovering that it indeed was a systemic bacteria... a side note of what I learned during this research, is that Bacillius Subtillis, EATS powdery mildew, From the inside out. So by inoculating your plants with this bacteria strain, they render the plant virtually immune to that particular fungi.


So alas you get the final answers from my research

General Hydroponics Subculture-B
Advanced Nutrients Voodoo Juice

Are both a significant source of Bacillius subtillis, and are already well tailored to plant use.

Happy Growing
-oakley
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Dude seranade makes your smoke taste like serenade,under no circumstances should you use that shit.I tried zero tolorence from Ed Rosenthal and its bullshit.A sulfer burner done right is the only way to keep it at bay.I paid allmost 200 bucks for mine.I burn once dureing veg and two or 3 weeks into flower and it never comes back.Dont burn anywhere close to the end of flower,you will ruin your whole crop
 
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