Power Bill

Markshomegrown · Jan 18, 2022

iggy097 said:
Running 2 - 4x4 tents with 2 SF 4000s, 4 fans, one inline fan. My power bill has gone up $100 a month in electricity charges - was hoping it wouldn't be that high, but that's what it is.
Though maybe this would help someone estimate their costs - I know I was looking for this info myself.

you can estimate the running cost of any setup.
say my kWh cost 0.17.4p = pricePerKWh
how many hours a day do you run the device = hours
how much electricity the device uses per hour = powerUsed
how many days you be using it = days

hps 600w uses 670w, (pricePerKWh) x (powerUsed) x (hours) x (days)
.................................................0.17.4 x 0.670 x 12 x 60 = £82 per crop

add up every device fans, filter lights, etc and you have your running cost.

waterproof808 · Jan 18, 2022

$100 is not bad at all for the amount of weed you can harvest from two 4x4's

iggy097 · Jan 18, 2022

waterproof808 said:
$100 is not bad at all for the amount of weed you can harvest from two 4x4's

One 4x4 for me - the other is hot peppers

bam0813 · Jan 18, 2022

A day meter and a night meter? Are you in the US ive never heard of such a thing. Does the one you have now stop when the street lights come on lol

waterproof808 · Jan 18, 2022

Our average in hawaii is like $0.43/kwh. My monthly bill is like $200 and I dont even grow indoor or have AC.

Cookie Rider · Jan 18, 2022

Was in a 4x8 w 1300 watts led -actual draw from wall-
Ac/dehumidifier and fans.

Power bill went up $500 for the year.
Not bad.

iggy097 · Jan 18, 2022

bam0813 said:
A day meter and a night meter? Are you in the US ive never heard of such a thing. Does the one you have now stop when the street lights come on lol

They have two types of meters - one is a straight meter- same charge day or night. Other is day/night of peak/offpeak meter with variable charges.

trychrome · Jan 18, 2022

This is for last month, roughly $465.
Of that, approximately 25% is personal use[Cooking, laundry, shower, slate tablet, light]. The remaining 75% is:

1- SF4000
1- XS1500
1- XS1000
1- 65W LED
1- ACInfinity #6
1- ACInfinity #4
1- Vivosun #4
5- 6" desk fans
1- 20" box fan
5-6 household LEDs that burn 24/7
Central heat[70F]

With no grow, just personal use I go from just under 100 in the spring to just under 200 during the summer, winter is usually somewhere in between.

Watters · Jan 18, 2022

iggy097 said:
One 4x4 for me - the other is hot peppers

I see you've got your priorities straight. I do the same

NanoGadget · Jan 18, 2022

iggy097 said:
One 4x4 for me - the other is hot peppers

Might have some questions for you as I am about to run some peppers in one of my flower spaces and I've never run them indoors. Cool if I message you?

Watters · Jan 18, 2022

Severed Tongue said:
Holy crap you guys are getting raped
Here in Southern Alberta I pay $0.0669/ kWh.

My entire energy charge for December was $42, whole house included with 638 kWh.

That's a 300 watt TSW2000 (12/12), a 150 watt TSW1000 (18/6), an AC Infinity T4 on setting of 8 (24), three 8 inch clip on fans on high (24), one 20 inch oscillating fan (24).

Checking my smart plugs, the grow room used 193.45 kWh so that's $12.94 cost for a month.
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Average rates in Alberta are like 17 cents. You pay 6?

Severed Tongue · Jan 18, 2022

Watters said:
Average rates in Alberta are like 17 cents. You pay 6?

Yup. I locked in 3 year fixed, should of went 5....

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I guess this was for November, not December. Meh I have it on auto pay and don't even look at them usually lol

ComputerSaysNo · Jan 18, 2022

Severed Tongue said:
Holy crap you guys are getting raped
Here in Southern Alberta I pay $0.0669/ kWh.

I pay €0.30 per kWh (yes, 30 cents), and there are no off-peak rates.

Probably means I'm getting "ass raped".

Severed Tongue · Jan 18, 2022

ComputerSaysNo said:
I pay €0.30 per kWh (yes, 30 cents), and there are no off-peak rates.

Probably means I'm getting "ass raped".

that would be $0.43 for me! EURO to CAD
wow thats crazy i had no idea it costs so much around the world seeing what you and everyone else is quoting. Fees add another $80/month regardless of usage = I have to pay that much just have connection. you have that too?

ComputerSaysNo · Jan 18, 2022

Severed Tongue said:
Fees add another $80/month regardless of usage = I have to pay that much just have connection. you have that too?

Yes, that, too (€10/month).

I'm with an eco-friendly tree-hugger company for electricity, you can get it a little cheaper from big corps, but not much.

ComputerSaysNo · Jan 18, 2022

bam0813 said:
There is nothing cheap about growing your own. I pay more to grow my vegetables than i could buy them for.

Growing vegetables under artificial light is a BAD deal for the environment. Even shipping in off-season produce from across the globe is way, way better than growing them indoors.

There is a great talk by Bruce Bugbee about that issue:

Nixs · Jan 18, 2022

Most expensive

Ranking	Country	Avg Electric Price (in U.S. cents per kWh)
1	Germany	39
2	Bermuda	37
3	Denmark	34
4	Portugal	32
5	Belgium	32
6	Cayman Islands	31
7	Bahamas	31
8	Cape Verde	30
9	Ireland	29
10	Japan	29
11	Cyprus	28
12	Barbados	28
13	United Kingdom	27
14	Italy	27
15	Liechtenstein	27
16	Australia	26
17	Luxemburg	26
18	Rwanda	26
19	Austria	25
20	Jamaica	25

Least expensive

1	Sudan	0
2	Venezuela	0
3	Iran	0
4	Ethiopia	1
5	Kyrgyzstan	1
6	Cuba	1
7	Libya	1
8	Zimbabwe	1
9	Bhutan	2
10	Angola	2
11	Suriname	2
12	Uzbekistan	3
13	Zambia	3
14	Iraq	3
15	Kuwait	3
16	Qatar	3
17	Oman	3
18	Algeria	4
19	Egypt	4
20	Kazakhstan	4

Frank Nitty · Jan 18, 2022

Severed Tongue said:
Holy crap you guys are getting raped
Here in Southern Alberta I pay $0.0669/ kWh.

My entire energy charge for December was $42, whole house included with 638 kWh.

That's a 300 watt TSW2000 (12/12), a 150 watt TSW1000 (18/6), an AC Infinity T4 on setting of 8 (24), three 8 inch clip on fans on high (24), one 20 inch oscillating fan (24).

Checking my smart plugs, the grow room used 193.45 kWh so that's $12.94 cost for a month.
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I pay 10 a month and run 5 tents

ComputerSaysNo · Jan 19, 2022

Nixs said:
Most expensive

Well, there is at least one ranking where Germany is #1.

PadawanWarrior · Jan 19, 2022

ComputerSaysNo said:
Well, there is at least one ranking where Germany is #1.

Knives too. Japan is right there with them though, but different characteristics.

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