I know this guy who let his rattle bit at the base of his very thick stocks. I didn't smoke that - but what type of high you'd get is way crazy dumb. I've been smoking good weed for such a long time i don't know if anything will get me "above the cloud." I will tell you this. If you take a week or two off - you can get pretty stoned and or very high. White Hindu Kush is pretty good. It really gets dowen to finding good seeds (genetics) and the grow will take care of it self with some attention.