Practice run. Wish me luck!

master kush has a sativa high though i heard..

baby, not according to Nirvana's website.

MK

First called High-Rise, Master Kush was developed in one of the tall buildings of south Amsterdam. Instantly the coffeeshops fell in love with this special new tetraploid. Through popular demand, this Hindu Kush/ skunk hybrid was stabilized and marketed. It has been a classic ever since. A strong plant of medium height and bushiness, Master Kush is a heavy producer with soil, hydro, and has great greenhouse results. The earthy smell of Master Kush is strong and the smoke is smooth.

Plant type: Best suitable for indoor growing.
Plant height: Medium- Indica/Sativa mix
Stoned or high?: Stoney yet high- Allround Buzz
THC level: Strong 15-20%
Flowering Weeks: 8/9
Yield (Sea of Green on one m2) : 500
Harvest Month: 8/9
Grow difficulty: Easy (Good for beginners)

EM

We have taken our famous Misty and crossed it with a super early skunk. Early Misty is our strongest outdoor variety. Early Misty stays low and has wide leaves. Early Misty stand low temperatures and is pest resistant. Some plants give almost a coffee scent when cured properly.

Plant type: Best suitable for outdoor growing.
Plant height: Short- Mostly Indica
Stoned or high?: Stoned- Indica Body Buzz
THC level: Strong 15-20%
Flowering Weeks: 8
Yield (Sea of Green on one m2) : 450
Harvest Month: 8
Grow difficulty: Easy (Good for beginners)

Baby, I know it's hard to judge from the pics I have posted but what would your best guess as to what I'll harvest wet from the taller plant? It stands about 30" or so.

hearmenow said:

baby, not according to Nirvana's website.

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Everything I've read about Master Kush says it's short and squat and a couchlock stone - very Indica dominant.

I don't know where you're getting that it's Sativa dominant from. It's originally a Dutch Passion strain and bearing in mind Nirvana's are F2 knock off's it's best to go by what the original breeders say and Dutch Passion say it's Indica.

I am going on the "stoney yet high, all around buzz" description. Anyways, it doesn't matter. I wanted one strain with a couch-lock effect, which is how they described EM. Then I also wanted a social high, without having to grow a pure sativa strain (height and difficulty of grow being the main reasons). Unless Nirvana is wrong, I'll get close to the high I want. Nirvana may have crossed their F1 with some other sativa dominant strain, resulting in their version of MK, which may be more sativa. Possible.

hearmenow said:

I am going on the "stoney yet high, all around buzz" description. Anyways, it doesn't matter. I wanted one strain with a couch-lock effect, which is how they described EM. Then I also wanted a social high, without having to grow a pure sativa strain (height and difficulty of grow being the main reasons). Unless Nirvana is wrong, I'll get close to the high I want. Nirvana may have crossed their F1 with some other sativa dominant strain, resulting in their version of MK, which may be more sativa. Possible.

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Sure it's possible. I also looked up on the old Overgrow growers database for others who have grown out Nirvana's MasterKush and every one of them described MasterKush as a 'couchlock stone' which grows 'short and squat'. I also saw mention of Sativa phenotypes which does suggest that there's some sativa in it, but the primary pheno is Indica dominant.

If you're looking for Sativa qualities in well bred, reasonably priced seeds that don't grow too much out of control and are relatively easy to grow with a great support from the breeder take a good look at Mandala's offerings (www.mandalaseeds.com). I've just germed 4 Kalichakra (Sativa dominant from land race genetics) and 3 Satori (1 didn't sprout yet) also a Sativa dominant based on land race genetics.

I've not grown out Mandala's seeds before, but I've read really good things about their seeds and their breeding and they come highly recommended. They're also as reasonably priced as the Nirvana offerings, yet you're getting original breeder F1' s not knock off F2's. The breeder, Mike is also active in offering advice and guidance to growers of his seeds. Check them out.

Regarding yield from your tallest plant, the one that lost it's fan leaves? From what I can see you'll be lucky to get 0.75-1oz dry from that, I just dried and cured two 14 inch clones and reckon I got about 1 oz's each from both of them.

Good stuff. Thanks for the feedback. I actually looked at Mandala seeds and really wanted the Mazar that VM grew for my indica strain. I will take your advice and look into the Kali and Satori.

If I get 1oz cured from that plant, I'll be content. I won't be jumping up and down but I'll be content. Depending on potency, 1oz should last the Mrs and I about 4-5 weeks. If it turns out to be a crappy weakassed high, I may just make some hash from it.

Again, thanks for the info.

So baby how do you know it's a dutch passion seed?

SmokerE said:

So baby how do you know it's a dutch passion seed?

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I don't with 100% certainty, but I do know Nirvana don't breed their own varieties, they simply take another seedbanks and make F2's from F1's. In all likelihood that MK came originally from Dutch Passion. It's an educated guess.

But whichever way you want to look at it MasterKush is more Indica than Sativa!

Much to report this morning. I examined my plants on Friday and discovered I had a spider mite (sm) infestation and not a small time one either! The smaller plant was swarming with them. After researching this problem, I began to panick. Everything I read said once you got sm's you are in deep shit, ESPECIALLY if you are already well into flowering, like I am. On Saturday, I prepared for major battle with the little fuckers. I bought some insecticidal soap $4.99 and some organic miticide $9.99. I began with the insecticidal soap because it said it was safe to use on fruits and veggies right up until harvest. I am guess I have about 2 more weeks before harvesting, so I am thinking I have time to flush any strange tastes. The miticide I got in case the soap didn't work. I carefulling removed the sm's and eggs I could get to by hand. The remainder, which included some on the actual buds, I sprayed with the soap. I was extrememly nervous about doing this, for fear of ruining the buds but I figured they would be goners anyway, so at least I could try saving them. I also gave both plants a watering using a little BB, SB and Superthrive. No molasses this watering.

Yesterday, I was very anxious to see how they were doing and thankfully, they seemed ok. There were still lots of sm's on the plants but they appeared dead. I cleaned off by hand what I could without damaging the leaves or buds. I did have to sacrifice some leaves which were badly damaged. I also made sure the grow area was examined and cleaned too. I plan on monitoring them very closely to see if they return.

I also looked at the trichs again and it was clear that the majority are still clear on both plants, so it looks like I have another couple weeks yet to harvest. I tried taking a few pics through the microscope. They are pretty crappy but you can clearly see the clear trichs. I also took some updated bud and plant pics. More are posted in my gallery.

Much to report this morning. I examined my plants on Friday and discovered I had a spider mite (sm) infestation and not a small time one either! The smaller plant was swarming with them. After researching this problem, I began to panic. Everything I read said once you got sm's you are in deep shit, ESPECIALLY if you are already well into flowering, like I am. On Saturday, I prepared for major battle with the little fuckers. I bought some insecticidal soap $4.99 and some organic miticide $9.99. I began with the insecticidal soap because it said it was safe to use on fruits and veggies right up until harvest. I am guess I have about 2 more weeks before harvesting, so I am thinking I have time to flush any strange tastes. The miticide I got in case the soap didn't work. I carefulling removed the sm's and eggs I could get to by hand. The remainder, which included some on the actual buds, I sprayed with the soap. I was extrememly nervous about doing this, for fear of ruining the buds but I figured they would be goners anyway, so at least I could try saving them. I also gave both plants a watering using a little BB, SB and Superthrive. No molasses this watering.

Yesterday, I was very anxious to see how they were doing and thankfully, they seemed ok. There were still lots of sm's on the plants but they appeared dead. I cleaned off by hand what I could without damaging the leaves or buds. I did have to sacrifice some leaves which were badly damaged. I also made sure the grow area was examined and cleaned too. I plan on monitoring them very closely to see if they return.

I also looked at the trichs again and it was clear that the majority are still clear on both plants, so it looks like I have another couple weeks yet to harvest. I tried taking a few pics through the microscope. They are pretty crappy but you can clearly see the clear trichs. I also took some updated bud and plant pics. More are posted in my gallery.

Comments welcomed.

damn that sucks hope all works out. Did they all just pop up one day? And do you know of any way to stop them from comming in at all?

43, yes they just appeared one day. If you've been following my grow, I am doing a combination outside/inside grow. From everything I've read, you get spider mites from the outside. They warn you about keeping your grow area very tidy and clean. Be very careful if you have an outside garden - make sure you don't contaminate your plants inside by accidentally carrying any of them inside. If you are an outside grower, your best prevention is monitoring and catching them as early as possible, especially before flowering. There are several effective treatments but most are for vegging and not flowering. Once you are into flowering, your options are more limited.

I looked at trichs again this morning on the taller plant and I'm noticing a few more milky ones, so it appears that they are starting to change on that plant. I didn't have time to examine the smaller one but my guess is that it's about a week behind the other. I'll post an update with pics later this week.

Damn bugs! It's like they think they own the place. Evict those bastards! You show them who's boss.

If you're not sure if it will be safe to smoke your bud after you cure it because of the mites shoot me a message. I will be right over to take the first smoke. I wouldn't want you smoking poisonous mite dung. We need to keep you around to make sure you pass on your knowledge. No need to thank me, I'm just offering my services to better America.

LOL@Flip. Trust me, if I have to sit there with my microscope and pick each mite off one by one before I smoke, I will. It's been 3 months of this labor of love.

I have a pending order with Nirvana that is caught up that I planned to grow by then end of May. If I don't hear anything by Friday, I plan on planting some more seeds from some excellent mids or regs we had recently.

Looking good hearmenow.
Good luck with spidermites...

Thanks, Midg. Seems like I have them at bay for now. I won't be able to do a good check this evening but I'm hoping to do a meticulous inspection tomorrow. I'll update as warranted.

Well, if anyone is actually still reading this log, this is the week the girls come down! I have been carefully examining the trichs for the last 3 days and we are definitely approaching harvest time. I last examined the trichs yesterday afternoon and on the taller plant, the trichs are either cloudy or light amber, with just a few being clear. I am guess I have another 2 or 3 days at most. The smaller one isn't that far behind either. In fact, I clipped a leaf on the smaller plant close to the main cola and most of those were already light amber but another leaf showed about 60% cloudy, 20% amber and 20% clear. I am checking trichs daily now.

I gave the girls their last fert/nute feeding on Thurday with a cocktail of Big Bloom, Super Bloom, Molasses and Superthrive. They stayed under the lights all day Friday. When I took them out Saturday, I could not believe the size of the buds! I shit you not, it looked like they swelled at least 15% over a 36 hour period! Anyway, I flushed both plants on Saturday and they remained under the lights again. I took them outside yesterday and the soil was still moist but the girls didn't look too droopy at all.

This morning I left them under the lights again, due to pending rain here in the morning. The wife is supposed to take them out once the rain subsides. When harvest day finally approaches later this week, I will post an update with pics. For now, here are a few bud pics - hopefully you can see how much they have swelled. I will post some plant pics in the next post and in my gallery.

Comments welcomed.

More plant pics

nice one hearmenow, looking like all the hard works gonna pay off! good growing