Prepping for 2013 outdoor guerilla grow !

Prince Charles

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Be careful about using perlite on uneven terrain or those south facing hillside areas that serve so well for our growing purposes.

After heavy rains, it tends to leave a trail to coincide with water runoff.
youre right. good tip.. should I not use as much then ?
 

doubletake

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I would probley just mix the natural soil with the soil you bring in a little I don't think it will leave a huge trail, and man I hope you do good with it I'm trying to do 3 patches of 20 hoping to end up with at least 45 big ones after I loose some to nature (I plan to loose 25 percent to mother nature) I like your idea on making the drip lines but I'm kinda well idk dumb/not enough patience to make a drip system I plan on hauling the water, have you set up the drip tubs yet? I'd like to see a pic mabey it could give me a idea of something easy I could make
 

drolove

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make sure you cover up the soil with some natural dirt from the area to help it blend. dark black soil with lots of white perlite isnt very natural and could be pretty easy to spot from land or air. getting quite a big outdoor going this year. 30 plants in 20 gallon pots. going to be a lot of water to carry out there lol.
 

Prince Charles

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I would probley just mix the natural soil with the soil you bring in a little I don't think it will leave a huge trail, and man I hope you do good with it I'm trying to do 3 patches of 20 hoping to end up with at least 45 big ones after I loose some to nature (I plan to loose 25 percent to mother nature) I like your idea on making the drip lines but I'm kinda well idk dumb/not enough patience to make a drip system I plan on hauling the water, have you set up the drip tubs yet? I'd like to see a pic mabey it could give me a idea of something easy I could make
yes I have set up the drip tubes and spray painted them to blend in, Ill put up some pics as soon as i can but im away for now.. its not too hard but Im thinking i should just haul the water in because we all know mary jane plants just love wet/dry periods so if i have a constant drip for a week that leaves no time for roots to go looking for water to grow
 

Prince Charles

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make sure you cover up the soil with some natural dirt from the area to help it blend. dark black soil with lots of white perlite isnt very natural and could be pretty easy to spot from land or air. getting quite a big outdoor going this year. 30 plants in 20 gallon pots. going to be a lot of water to carry out there lol.
I will be mixing the perlite in about 6 inches down in the soil so it won't just be laying on top looking all suspect and what not. good luck with ur grow ! 20 gal pots will put out some monsters
 

drolove

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I will be mixing the perlite in about 6 inches down in the soil so it won't just be laying on top looking all suspect and what not. good luck with ur grow ! 20 gal pots will put out some monsters
thanks and thats the plan! wanting AT LEAST half a pound per plant this year. good luck with yours as well.
 

Prince Charles

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thanks and thats the plan! wanting AT LEAST half a pound per plant this year. good luck with yours as well.
you seem like a pretty experienced grower and I have a question that needs to be answered before april.. I dont have a timer set on my drip line cuz of its remote location outdoors its just a large tub with lines and holes in the lines .. would I harm any of the plants by over-watering if there is a constant drip for 5-6 days straight day and night ? really debating on wether to go through with the drip system or haul the water up my own. I just spent so much time outside rigging up the drip lines and hauling the tubs out there so idk !
 

drolove

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you seem like a pretty experienced grower and I have a question that needs to be answered before april.. I dont have a timer set on my drip line cuz of its remote location outdoors its just a large tub with lines and holes in the lines .. would I harm any of the plants by over-watering if there is a constant drip for 5-6 days straight day and night ? really debating on wether to go through with the drip system or haul the water up my own. I just spent so much time outside rigging up the drip lines and hauling the tubs out there so idk !
hmm i guess it would have to depend on how much water it was adding. the bigger your plants get the faster they are going to pull the water up as well as needing more water. so you would have to be able to adjust it somehow or i would be worried about either over watering or not watering enough.
 

swampcracker

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either drip systems, hose system hooked up to a creek run by a pump or to just plant by a stream of some sort like im doing
You can buy a 12 volt pump T tractor supply.http://www.tractorsupply.com/delavan-powerflo-trade-7800-series-diaphragm-pump-extreme-duty-2110372 300 ft of garden hose at lowes, a good car battery or marine, then buy a solar panel that will charge the battery http://www.tractorsupply.com/solar-5w-12-volt-battery-trickle-charger-8500038 When you go out water them yourself.. Ive tested and was able to get good flow at 300 ft with this pump. It's about a 400 dollar investment but you have water when you need it. Of course this all depends on how far this stream is from your grow.I will be using this this year as my back still hurts from last season hauling all that water.
 

Freda Felcher

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I will be mixing the perlite in about 6 inches down in the soil so it won't just be laying on top looking all suspect and what not. good luck with ur grow ! 20 gal pots will put out some monsters
If you add several inches of mulch on top it will conceal the perlite and hold it in place. The mulch also helps retain moisture during heat spells.
 

Prince Charles

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You can buy a 12 volt pump T tractor supply.http://www.tractorsupply.com/delavan-powerflo-trade-7800-series-diaphragm-pump-extreme-duty-2110372 300 ft of garden hose at lowes, a good car battery or marine, then buy a solar panel that will charge the battery http://www.tractorsupply.com/solar-5w-12-volt-battery-trickle-charger-8500038 When you go out water them yourself.. Ive tested and was able to get good flow at 300 ft with this pump. It's about a 400 dollar investment but you have water when you need it. Of course this all depends on how far this stream is from your grow.I will be using this this year as my back still hurts from last season hauling all that water.
will def be doing some sort of setup like this for next season.
 

Subu

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Outdoor I typically get at least a pound per plant. I dont particularly get impressed by the big lists of stuff people use for their gardens. Because the key thing is for plants to get all micronutrients (in right concentrations) and perfectly timed watering. Coupled with proper housekeeping of your outdoor plants - most importantly, when required: foliar nutrient spray, ORGANIC insect/fungicide sprays, removing brown/yellow leaves, cutting off troublesome branches, supporting the plants, ensure proper air intake by the plant and keeping it as dry and clean as possible. It really doesnt matter what kind of medium you use for the roots - I tried everything from horse manure, to triple mix, to fancy soils / perlite, but the plants hardly care about that. They do care about this: the soil must not be heavy on nutes to begin with; it must be EASILY drainable and do not use pots. The golden rule for outdoors is if you water and the soil around the stem is dry the next day - the plant is happy. If the soil stays soggy for days on, the plant will not like that. I use normal triple mix that you would see at stores and mix it with dolomitic limestone (90% soil, 10% limestone) to make sure that pH will never dip too low with the heavy watering/nutrients that I will subject the plants throughout the summer/fall. Here's the big secret - marijuana plants LOVE when you plant them in sandy soils. Yield increases massively. In my area below the first dozen inches of soil is ALL sand down at least 100 feet all around. Provides great drainage and endless room for the roots. Another big secret is that marijuana plants HATE it when their roots are constrained. It affects the yield and the plant health. When there is no bottom and plenty of room at the side for the roots to expand, the plants feel free and grow to their full potential.
first point is good, the second "big secret" about plants hating root constraints is very common knowledge. lean 45 degrees off your high horse
 

Prince Charles

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ok ive started my mother today in the box and its soon to be sprouted. I have one 26w cfl 1-2 inches away with the temp around 79f and humidity around 50%. would that be enough to just last around 4-6 weeks to take my clones?
 
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