problem help?????

smokeybandit22 · Feb 28, 2009

obviously you start with reading and research and than progress to growing to gain the experience. man, why do u guys like to fight so much on this forum? have you guys won the cannabis cup? not likely with a CFl grow. cmon man.

smokeybandit22 · Feb 28, 2009

and who is the coward who neg repped me? to scared to attach your name to it?
oh wait, can only be Elite- Where am I u r a coward. and u made a new enemy.
look for me in every post you make now.
let me pay 30 so I can have an Elite status so I can negative rep people who respond to an insult with their own about a cheesy CFl grow. Sounds like a self esteem issue. I bet you lurk around this forum antogonizing people so you can neg rep themto make urself feel important. Man, u really ruined my day and life with that neg rep-like it means anything other than a sign of weakness from the issuer in this case. u were probably that nerd in high school who got stuffed in a locker.
try paying more mind to helping others and not trying to interject something stupid and play police man. make that hall monitor. you made multiple posts in this thread and not one of them was even close to something representing a diagnosis. keep out of the threads if u r not gonna make an even close guess and take your childplay with ur friends somewhere else.
and here's hoping to you never get busted. baby

for the record, every single rep I have received was from helping someone in this section, not from posting stupid stuff like 'Who would you not smoke with'. Obviously reps are important to you. With 2500 posts since Oct, I assume you have no job and spend your days in fantasy land on the internet hyping yourself up. ding, ding, ding...Winner!

GreenphoeniX · Feb 28, 2009

and who is the coward who neg repped me? to scared to attach your name to it?
oh wait, can only be Elite- Where am I u r a coward. and u made a new enemy.
look for me in every post you make now.
let me pay 30 so I can have an Elite status so I can negative rep people who respond to an insult with their own about a cheesy CFl grow. Sounds like a self esteem issue. I bet you lurk around this forum antogonizing people so you can neg rep themto make urself feel important. Man, u really ruined my day and life with that neg rep-like it means anything other than a sign of weakness from the issuer in this case. u were probably that nerd in high school who got stuffed in a locker.
try paying more mind to helping others and not trying to interject something stupid and play police man. make that hall monitor. you made multiple posts in this thread and not one of them was even close to something representing a diagnosis. keep out of the threads if u r not gonna make an even close guess and take your childplay with ur friends somewhere else.
and here's hoping to you never get busted. baby

for the record, every single rep I have received was from helping someone in this section, not from posting stupid stuff like 'Who would you not smoke with'. Obviously reps are important to you. With 2500 posts since Oct, I assume you have no job and spend your days in fantasy land on the internet hyping yourself up. ding, ding, ding...Winner!

Dude, you're arguing as much as everyone else. 90% of rep given out is for people helping or proving that they're a kick-ass grower ... Doesn't make you special, sorry to tell you.

You've given you're advice and opinion, I've given mine, others have given theirs, now let the person who asked the question do what they have to do to try fix that problem and we can all live happily ever after.

rexx8 - Get back to us sometime about whether or not you managed to fix your problem!

Cheers!

smokeybandit22 · Feb 28, 2009

GreenphoeniX said:
Dude, you're arguing as much as everyone else. 90% of rep given out is for people helping or proving that they're a kick-ass grower ... Doesn't make you special, sorry to tell you.

You've given you're advice and opinion, I've given mine, others have given theirs, now let the person who asked the question do what they have to do to try fix that problem and we can all live happily ever after.

rexx8 - Get back to us sometime about whether or not you managed to fix your problem!

Cheers!

actually I am not. and u r wrong- 90% of the reps out there is not given for that-it is given for stupid ass shit that has nothing to do with growing-Smoke N Toke-Politics-
you want to instigate with me too, that is fine, sorry to tell you-jerkoff.

GreenphoeniX · Feb 28, 2009

actually I am not. and u r wrong- 90% of the reps out there is not given for that-it is given for stupid ass shit that has nothing to do with growing-Smoke N Toke-Politics-
you want to instigate with me too, that is fine, sorry to tell you-jerkoff.

Ok... SO you just argued in that post about how you're not arguing ... Genius ... I suppose you could be right about the Toke N Talk stuff, I don't know, I rarely visit those threads. Like you, the vast majority of my rep has been received for helping people with their problems and such... And somehow I have 1/3 as many posts as you, less activity... and more rep... Hmm, maybe, just maybe, I may have an idea what I'm talking about due to my book reading skills and years of experience.

Anyway, I'm over this, I hope the thread creator fixes his problem and has a great grow.

Oh, and don't off load your insecurities on other forum members, calling them things like jerkoff. Come on man, that's just lame, low and immature.

Over and out! ~ GreenX ~

smokeybandit22 · Feb 28, 2009

whatever dude, I looked through your posts and your advice is usually quoted straight from a book. not experience. that is hypocritical. and I call em like I see em. calling someone a jerkoff doesnt mean they have insecurities-doesnt equate.
show me a post where your advice was actually correct.

WoldofWeedcraft · Feb 28, 2009

I'm glad I found this thread. Saves me from making one. I've been in FF Ocean Forest 70% and 30% Perlite for 4 and a half weeks now, and I'm having the same problem. I guess I must be over watering. I've been using a spray bottle though, and I apply water liberally, but it never leaks out the drain holes in the bottom of the pot. Only a couple of my plants are showing the drooping though, not all of them so I guess it's just over watering a couple of individuals. I also notice them drooping before lights out like another post mentioned previously.

My question: Should I continue to use a spray bottle? Am I likely over-watering if the water isn't draining or is the water not even making it's way to the bottom and flooding the top part of the soil?

blazedklown · Feb 28, 2009

seriously grow the fuck up suppose to be tryin to help someone and u go the two of you bitchin like to old ladies go toke up and calm the fuck down :joint:

smokeybandit22 · Feb 28, 2009

blazedklown said:
seriously grow the fuck up suppose to be tryin to help someone and u go the two of you bitchin like to old ladies go toke up and calm the fuck down

I dont disagree with you, but is a matter of defending myself from morons. :spew:

smokeybandit22 · Feb 28, 2009

WoldofWeedcraft said:
I'm glad I found this thread. Saves me from making one. I've been in FF Ocean Forest 70% and 30% Perlite for 4 and a half weeks now, and I'm having the same problem. I guess I must be over watering. I've been using a spray bottle though, and I apply water liberally, but it never leaks out the drain holes in the bottom of the pot. Only a couple of my plants are showing the drooping though, not all of them so I guess it's just over watering a couple of individuals. I also notice them drooping before lights out like another post mentioned previously.

My question: Should I continue to use a spray bottle? Am I likely over-watering if the water isn't draining or is the water not even making it's way to the bottom and flooding the top part of the soil?

Here is something (ahem pheonix) that the books wont teach you-and doesnt normally apply to this guys situation. if you are flowering and getting the droopiness before lights out-this is normal and usually happens in the first 2 weeks of flowering. and it is not from lack of water as have seen it with DWC.

dont know why u r using a spray bottle to water your plants-seems to me with lack of drainage and that spray bottle, you may not be getting sufficient water in the root zone.if anything, u r underwatering. there needs to be sufficient runoff to ensure proper saturation of the root zone/soil.

spiked1 · Feb 28, 2009

In between the hate fest as to who is right,
Why didn't anyone mention Too Much Nitrogen
It's the major cause of the Claw
Sure, over or under watering can cause it too.

smokeybandit22 · Feb 28, 2009

spiked1 said:
In between the hate fest as to who is right,
Why didn't anyone mention Too Much Nitrogen
It's the major cause of the Claw
Sure, over or under watering can cause it too.

no hatefest, more like an idiot match. if you read my first post, I think that is excatly what I said-over fert for the claw-these guys automatically think overwatering without even looking at his pics. one quick glance at his pics would draw the sdame conclusion. yup these guys are good typers, but suck in the visual dept-usually losers who want to get thier post count up.

smokeybandit22 · Feb 28, 2009

GreenphoeniX said:
Ok... SO you just argued in that post about how you're not arguing ... Genius ... I suppose you could be right about the Toke N Talk stuff, I don't know, I rarely visit those threads. Like you, the vast majority of my rep has been received for helping people with their problems and such... And somehow I have 1/3 as many posts as you, less activity... and more rep... Hmm, maybe, just maybe, I may have an idea what I'm talking about due to my book reading skills and years of experience.

Anyway, I'm over this, I hope the thread creator fixes his problem and has a great grow.

Oh, and don't off load your insecurities on other forum members, calling them things like jerkoff. Come on man, that's just lame, low and immature.

Over and out! ~ GreenX ~

to end this and set the record straight... you have multiple threads you started-which I applaud-which are clearly cut and paste of things you have read or picked up or stole from someone else-this is where your rep points came from-since they mean so much to you. So you started threads and cut and pasted some second hand info-which does have it's purpose-and collected ur rep points. and u claim this judges your experience.how on earth does that show u r talking from experience? it doesnt. however, I have never collected any rep points from that method and have obtained all through posting responses to people in need from actual experience in growing.

I am still waiting for you to post up a thread where you gave your own advice that actually was accurate. oh wait, u cant.

WoldofWeedcraft · Mar 1, 2009

Thanks smokey for the feedback. I'm going to get rid of the spray bottle, and see if I can get more water in the root zone. I think I have been under watering, but my droopiness doesn't look "lifeless" like the growfaq suggests. +Rep to you.

rexx8 · Mar 7, 2009

btw everything turned out fine i just stopped feeding with the tiger bloom every time i watered. I feed it once more after a watering with just water and next time it needs water (in about 6 days) im going to do my final flush i have 15 gallons of 6.5 ph water ready to do this any suggestions??????

think this will be ready to harvest in 2-3 weeks i see a few brown hairs all others are white but trichomes a few are amber (very few) these buds look a sparse wtf ph is fine and water is ph fine so why the prob ((if any)) it was a slow vegger so can it be a slow flowering plant too????? maybe more than 2 months????????? :confused:

smokeybandit22 · Mar 8, 2009

this was my original post:

'what these guys are suggesting is not ur problem. the number one cause of the claw look-as if you bend the tip of ur finger down but keep your finger striaght-over fert. you probably shouldnt be nuting with every feed-jees cant believe no one picked this up'

seems at least one person on this site know what the hell they are doing and not just going around trying to be cool and get their post count and rep count up as if it mattered.
for the record, lol on the other posters.

anyways, that looks like a sativa plant and yes the flowering time for them can be upwards of 12 weeks. the problem why your buds are sparse and stretched is because of lack of light. sativas are long lanky bitches and with CFL's, they just r not gonna get the job done. there doesnt seem to be any depth penetration of the light and even the lumens up top are not sufficient.
hell, they dont look horrible but I can say they got at least another month to go.
home depot sells a 100W HPS security light for around $40 and the wiring is simple and can be found online anywhere. it would be an extremely worthwhile expenditure for your final yield.
and Sativas are more sensitive to nutes than indicas, generally speaking. you can have a successful grow with cfl's but after much trial and tribulation will you finally have decent yields with a sativa.
indica 8 week flowering time, dont get so tall and generally yield more.

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