Problems with my little Garden

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budilicius

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Hi folks,

at first my english isnt so good pls have a little patience with me. And also my first entry here and my first try to upload some photos i hope it works. In the Preview i dont see them.

I grow indoor with Soil, my fertilizer is Advanced Hydroponics. I use the dose which is on the bottle for soil. That means the half of the Hydrodose. 4 Plants, LED. First problem was my LED was so pink that i dont really see the plants real colour.

In the Veg Stage, i think the most works fine, only the Plant left in the front dont want to grow taller and have some problems.
I start with the flowering before 33 days. After 2-3 weeks (14-21 days of Flowering) leaves going yellow and some other stuff...look at the pictures. I look at some books and internet also i have the Jorge Cervantes Poster with the deficit and excesses...but i have really no idea...

Also since two weeks i spray additionally clear water with Epsom and PH- Bloom, but have no effect. Is no better but also no worse, also pour since 2 times i use Epsom with Nutrients and now my EC is not higher then 1,9

My guess is deficit in nitrogen, magnesium or zinc

Temperature is every night and day about 24
Humidity is about 50-60 %

I pour at the moment every 3rd day my PH is about 6,3 - 6,7 (with PH- Bloom and sometimes not) and Ec is about 1,2-1,5. And with Epsom 1,5- 1,9

Also the smallest Plant (ICE), get after 30 days brown hair - a bit early ... my last grow was also with 2 ICE and also one of them start very early with brown hair. Dont know why.

i hope someone can help me.
 

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RM3 said:
Another switched to bloom nutes early post
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sorry dont understand this

I use Mg since 2 Weeks and cause the N. I use Advanced and the Schedule of Advanced means at 1,5 L Water i must use 2,2 ml Phosphorus (Micro) and 0,75 ml N (Bloom) The last 2 water i gave 3 - 3,5 ml Phosphorus and 1,5 ml N (double). In my opinion when i use more N, i think its too much.. or you think its ok when i give for example 2ml N??
 
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budilicius said:
sorry dont understand this

I use Mg since 2 Weeks and cause the N. I use Advanced and the Schedule of Advanced means at 1,5 L Water i must use 2,2 ml Phosphorus (Micro) and 0,75 ml N (Bloom) The last 2 water i gave 3 - 3,5 ml Phosphorus and 1,5 ml N (double). In my opinion when i use more N, i think its too much.. or you think its ok when i give for example 2ml N??
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What you are seeing on the plant is because you started using bloom nutes to early and is normal if that is how you feed em.

A simple truth is that bloom nutes are not needed at all and high P can be very detrimental. Most growers don't understand this due to all the hype and bad info out there

If you want the yellowing and fading to stop you need to feed em properly, if you are gonna use bloom nutes you need to wait till the stretch is over and they have set flowers (started budding) High PK boosters only need to be used once but most don't get that either ?

It is what it is
 
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1st of welcome to RIU, 2nd point is to listen RM3, he knows his shit. Anyway, too much bloom food, not enough Nitrogen. That is why you are seeing the early yellow, but don't freak, all will be good, just from now (This time/next time add some N). Leaves will turn yellow naturally closer to finish, so don't lose your mind over that. That small plant in front, is simply a runt if you have all the same strains running. If not. it just might be the strain. Keep asking questions, you are in the right place.
 
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budilicius

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OK, thx for your Infos and help

Also a Info. The Veg-Stage was about 45-50 Days (from seed) after these days i start with flowering and now iam at 33 days of flowering. The plant is about 80-85 days old.

Advanced use 3 Flasks:
1 Grow (2,5% N, 1,2% Ph, 5 % Potassium)
2 Bloom (0% N, 5 % Ph, 3,5 % Potas.)
3 Micro (4,5% N, 0% Ph, 1 % Potas.)
on the Bottle is a Info: GROW no longer apply after 21-30 days...... i stop using this flask after 20 days of flowering.. is this the mistake i made?
 
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budilicius

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some Photos of my garden during the lightstage. 4 Plants 3 of them are White ICE and one of them is a ICE (the smallest one)


From this what you both say...its better to low down the Bloom Flask and give some extra N and Mg? (Epsom).


Normaly i should use in early flowering 0,6 / 1,2 / 0,6 at 1,5 l water...

in picture 11 you see what i use after 20 days. I stop using the GROW Flask..and should use 0 / 2,2 / 0,75. In my opinion i dont overdose it (the P) also iam not to salty about EC and PH isnt soured. But something i done wrong.

RM3 said:
read this

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-never-ending-abuse-of-phosphorous-bloom-foods-to-enhance-flowering.158144/
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thx for the link for The Never Ending Abuse of Phosphorous, but i dont really understand all, my english isnt good enough for this.. i only can read, that when you use to much Phosphor in the early flowering you get a mix of N, Mg, and Ca deficit. The other Text is like spanglish for me.
 

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someone have another Infos for me about my water behavior. Before i switch to flowering or i leave out the first flask, my plants start with some problems which i cant identify.

How does it look like with a soil which stands a half year or longer in a room about 19°?


sorry i forgot something, i water it 2 days ago, with the half dose of Phosphor normally 2,2ml i use 1,1ml for 1,5 L water and N i use the double dose 1,5ml, days as in the past, normally 0,75. Until now I can't say whether it has improved. You have experience when this stops or slighlty becomes better? I think the next time i use more N
 
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oh jeez
first off its new leaves effected
so rule out n the plant would transfer n from lower to upper leaves
sooooo we know its something that's not moble within the plants

honestly its an easy id and fix
iron it is probably there but cant be taken up and used
watch for too much phosphorus
make sure you soil can breath(no over watering)
double check ph if you say its 6.6 bring it down to 6.0 at most
it will fix itself if you do that
 
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slapmehard said:
oh jeez
first off its new leaves effected
so rule out n the plant would transfer n from lower to upper leaves
sooooo we know its something that's not moble within the plants

honestly its an easy id and fix
iron it is probably there but cant be taken up and used
watch for too much phosphorus
make sure you soil can breath(no over watering)
double check ph if you say its 6.6 bring it down to 6.0 at most
it will fix itself if you do that
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at first.. i wrote this in the wrong thread :) sorry for that.
Ii copy it and put it into the correct one.
 
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