Products added for taste or smell

steelersfan

Well-Known Member
I've read somewhere that you can buy some different products to add that will give the buds a variety of different tastes/smell. If it's true what's the name brand of the products or can you do something homemade? I was wondering if vanilla extract would work or any type of cooking extract?
 

candylime12

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Ive heard of this to, and I have done some research. some say it works but most say that its a waste of money.
basically your adding sugar/ which is a carb, the carbs will aid in terpene production. and growth.
Most growers you will hear from will use a tbl spoon of black strap molasses in there nute mix. I think that it helps the grow processes more than the turpenes, which is your taste and smell.
try some out and see what you think write a jernal and post it, try differnt ones on known plants so you have you base.
interested to find out the results
 

ArrOgNt RocKstAR

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I use "SUCANAT" ... ($5.00) Its pure organic sugar that you can buy in most organic food stores... Its very different then any other kind of sugar i'v ever seen. I like it better then molasses because it dissolves very easily, the plants drink it up nicely, has a unique flavor, and its packed with micronutrients.

I usually combine it with Botanicare "Sweet" ($15.00)

I use those all through the life of the plants. It helps with stress, and stretching, and in the end, makes your buds sweet and delicious.
:weed:
 

SableZen

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You can add pretty much anything as long as it is water-soluble. Some simple rules though:

The flavoring must be water-soluble. Otherwise it won't enter the plant through regular water uptake.

After flushing your plant with water prior to harvest (if you do flush) - don't water for a couple of days or until the plant will be readily thirsty and you are ready to harvest. Then give the plant its final watering with the flavoring mixed in. Cut for harvest after 1-2 hours. [That's all the time it takes for the flavoring to travel into the plant with the water as the plant drinks.]
 

candylime12

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I dont think that 1-2 hours is enough time for your plant to absorb enough of the sugars to anything. considering that the plant gathers water and nutes during day hours and uses them during the night hours. so technicly i would beleive you would have to give it at least 24 hours for the plant to absorb the water and carbs. IF you were going to attempt this i would give it to your plant at the last part of your flush, and let the plant grow for a week or two before you harvest.
good luck
 

SableZen

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I dont think that 1-2 hours is enough time for your plant to absorb enough of the sugars to anything. considering that the plant gathers water and nutes during day hours and uses them during the night hours. so technicly i would beleive you would have to give it at least 24 hours for the plant to absorb the water and carbs. IF you were going to attempt this i would give it to your plant at the last part of your flush, and let the plant grow for a week or two before you harvest.
good luck
And that's why it doesn't work for most people - they want to believe it takes days for a plant to absorb anything. But not water, a plant will readily consume a lot of water quickly when it's thirsty. You aren't 'feeding' the plant sugars or anything, you are sneaking it in along with the water the plant 'drinks'. And that only takes an hour or two.

And after the plant has been cut, the absorbed (and flavored) water will continue to disseminate through the plant as it's used and will reach the smaller limbs/branches/leaves.



Here's a better explanation:

"Anything you put in your plants water will affect the taste of the finished product particularly if you harvest it right afterwards. What you want to do is select a flavoring that is very concentrated. Lets take orange for an example. You could use orange juice but if you could find concentrated orange extract you would have less pulp etc to deal with. You will find some concentrated flavor extracts in the grocery store. Want your pot to smell like vanilla? Vanilla extract is cheap and readily available, so is lemon extract (cooking variety). Other extracts can be found in stores that specialise in baking supplies.

Lets say you can't find any of that and you want to use what you have on hand. I took the example of orange flavoring. If all you have is orange juice you could use that. I would suggest filtering it first to get out as much of the pulp as possible. A coffee filter works well but it'll take a while to filter it all. You may have to change filters a few times. Those with hydroponic units will shudder at the thought of a lot of goop going through their system. That's why I suggested the concentrated extracts if you can find them.

It's important to do this shortly before harvest. For one thing, most extracts including the ones you make up yourself have a lot of sugar in them. This sugar will ferment and decay rapidly, even more so in a hydro unit. With hydro I recommend putting the flavoring in the water between 1 and 3 hours before harvest. This rule isn't set in stone but I heard from one grower who used a sugar based clearing solution on his crop and less than 24 hours later the water was foaming from bacteria growth. Plants draw up solution fairly quickly so one hour should be enough for some of the flavoring to reach the top. Three hours should not be enough time for bacteria to grow but you will want to dump out the solution right afterwards and clean out your unit. If you read the SU of Mar 27 you knew to use plain water for a few days before harvesting your hydro crop so all that will be in the water will be the flavoring.

If you are a soil grower it's even easier. You might think it would take longer for the flavor to work it's way through the plant but this is not the case. All you have to do is let the plant dry out a little before your apply the solution. In other words schedule a watering just before harvest. Naturally you were giving your plants plain water for several days to a week or two before harvest weren't you? Give the plant the water with the flavor when it's a little bit thirsty and it will draw it right up. One hour is more than enough time for this to happen.

After harvest it's important to give it a good cure. Resist the temptation to fast dry some of the weed to try it out. You will find it's even more harsh than it would be normally because you have added some sugar to the plant by way of the flavoring. The curing process will take care of the extra sugar and give you nice mild smoke. It will also have the flavor and aroma you are looking for."
 

txhomegrown

Well-Known Member
And that's why it doesn't work for most people - they want to believe it takes days for a plant to absorb anything. But not water, a plant will readily consume a lot of water quickly when it's thirsty. You aren't 'feeding' the plant sugars or anything, you are sneaking it in along with the water the plant 'drinks'. And that only takes an hour or two.

And after the plant has been cut, the absorbed (and flavored) water will continue to disseminate through the plant as it's used and will reach the smaller limbs/branches/leaves.



Here's a better explanation:

"Anything you put in your plants water will affect the taste of the finished product particularly if you harvest it right afterwards. What you want to do is select a flavoring that is very concentrated. Lets take orange for an example. You could use orange juice but if you could find concentrated orange extract you would have less pulp etc to deal with. You will find some concentrated flavor extracts in the grocery store. Want your pot to smell like vanilla? Vanilla extract is cheap and readily available, so is lemon extract (cooking variety). Other extracts can be found in stores that specialise in baking supplies.

Lets say you can't find any of that and you want to use what you have on hand. I took the example of orange flavoring. If all you have is orange juice you could use that. I would suggest filtering it first to get out as much of the pulp as possible. A coffee filter works well but it'll take a while to filter it all. You may have to change filters a few times. Those with hydroponic units will shudder at the thought of a lot of goop going through their system. That's why I suggested the concentrated extracts if you can find them.

It's important to do this shortly before harvest. For one thing, most extracts including the ones you make up yourself have a lot of sugar in them. This sugar will ferment and decay rapidly, even more so in a hydro unit. With hydro I recommend putting the flavoring in the water between 1 and 3 hours before harvest. This rule isn't set in stone but I heard from one grower who used a sugar based clearing solution on his crop and less than 24 hours later the water was foaming from bacteria growth. Plants draw up solution fairly quickly so one hour should be enough for some of the flavoring to reach the top. Three hours should not be enough time for bacteria to grow but you will want to dump out the solution right afterwards and clean out your unit. If you read the SU of Mar 27 you knew to use plain water for a few days before harvesting your hydro crop so all that will be in the water will be the flavoring.

If you are a soil grower it's even easier. You might think it would take longer for the flavor to work it's way through the plant but this is not the case. All you have to do is let the plant dry out a little before your apply the solution. In other words schedule a watering just before harvest. Naturally you were giving your plants plain water for several days to a week or two before harvest weren't you? Give the plant the water with the flavor when it's a little bit thirsty and it will draw it right up. One hour is more than enough time for this to happen.

After harvest it's important to give it a good cure. Resist the temptation to fast dry some of the weed to try it out. You will find it's even more harsh than it would be normally because you have added some sugar to the plant by way of the flavoring. The curing process will take care of the extra sugar and give you nice mild smoke. It will also have the flavor and aroma you are looking for."
I am curious, are you speaking from experience, or is this something that you have heard but not tried? I have some plants a couple of weeks from harvest and would like to sweeten them up.
 

candylime12

Well-Known Member
And that's why it doesn't work for most people - they want to believe it takes days for a plant to absorb anything. But not water, a plant will readily consume a lot of water quickly when it's thirsty. You aren't 'feeding' the plant sugars or anything, you are sneaking it in along with the water the plant 'drinks'. And that only takes an hour or two.

And after the plant has been cut, the absorbed (and flavored) water will continue to disseminate through the plant as it's used and will reach the smaller limbs/branches/leaves.



Here's a better explanation:

"Anything you put in your plants water will affect the taste of the finished product particularly if you harvest it right afterwards. What you want to do is select a flavoring that is very concentrated. Lets take orange for an example. You could use orange juice but if you could find concentrated orange extract you would have less pulp etc to deal with. You will find some concentrated flavor extracts in the grocery store. Want your pot to smell like vanilla? Vanilla extract is cheap and readily available, so is lemon extract (cooking variety). Other extracts can be found in stores that specialise in baking supplies.

Lets say you can't find any of that and you want to use what you have on hand. I took the example of orange flavoring. If all you have is orange juice you could use that. I would suggest filtering it first to get out as much of the pulp as possible. A coffee filter works well but it'll take a while to filter it all. You may have to change filters a few times. Those with hydroponic units will shudder at the thought of a lot of goop going through their system. That's why I suggested the concentrated extracts if you can find them.

It's important to do this shortly before harvest. For one thing, most extracts including the ones you make up yourself have a lot of sugar in them. This sugar will ferment and decay rapidly, even more so in a hydro unit. With hydro I recommend putting the flavoring in the water between 1 and 3 hours before harvest. This rule isn't set in stone but I heard from one grower who used a sugar based clearing solution on his crop and less than 24 hours later the water was foaming from bacteria growth. Plants draw up solution fairly quickly so one hour should be enough for some of the flavoring to reach the top. Three hours should not be enough time for bacteria to grow but you will want to dump out the solution right afterwards and clean out your unit. If you read the SU of Mar 27 you knew to use plain water for a few days before harvesting your hydro crop so all that will be in the water will be the flavoring.

If you are a soil grower it's even easier. You might think it would take longer for the flavor to work it's way through the plant but this is not the case. All you have to do is let the plant dry out a little before your apply the solution. In other words schedule a watering just before harvest. Naturally you were giving your plants plain water for several days to a week or two before harvest weren't you? Give the plant the water with the flavor when it's a little bit thirsty and it will draw it right up. One hour is more than enough time for this to happen.

After harvest it's important to give it a good cure. Resist the temptation to fast dry some of the weed to try it out. You will find it's even more harsh than it would be normally because you have added some sugar to the plant by way of the flavoring. The curing process will take care of the extra sugar and give you nice mild smoke. It will also have the flavor and aroma you are looking for."
OK look Im not trying to piss in anybody cheerio's here, but why would you give your plant something to flavor a bud just a couple hours be fore you harvest. just logical thinking here but I personally like the flavor and aroma of the weed that i grow otherwise i would stop smoking, but never the less. logical thinking would have you feeding your plant the artificial flavoring during the growing process to give the desired taste, the taste would be stronger and smoother
than a quick taste of the flavoring? plus i would also reep the benifits of the added carbs from the sugars providid that your plant can break down what ever your giving it. Or id do the smart thing and buy a strain that has the taste and aroma that your looking for, instead of trying to make a shwage plant taste like something that its not.
 

candylime12

Well-Known Member
I've read somewhere that you can buy some different products to add that will give the buds a variety of different tastes/smell. If it's true what's the name brand of the products or can you do something homemade? I was wondering if vanilla extract would work or any type of cooking extract?
Dude try this try giveing your plant an extra few days of clean water after you flush. then let your plant absorbe the water, let the plant start to get dry when you feel that its right to harvest ,ake shur its during the time whare youd water.
properly dry and cure the buds, your smoke will be smooth as silk and the flavor will be mild and sweet.
 

Quickee

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i dont see anything wrong with doing different thing or test maybe to get a crazy different smell or teate..its just something new..
 

SableZen

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OK look Im not trying to piss in anybody cheerio's here, but why would you give your plant something to flavor a bud just a couple hours be fore you harvest. just logical thinking here but I personally like the flavor and aroma of the weed that i grow otherwise i would stop smoking, but never the less. logical thinking would have you feeding your plant the artificial flavoring during the growing process to give the desired taste, the taste would be stronger and smoother
than a quick taste of the flavoring? plus i would also reep the benifits of the added carbs from the sugars providid that your plant can break down what ever your giving it. Or id do the smart thing and buy a strain that has the taste and aroma that your looking for, instead of trying to make a shwage plant taste like something that its not.
No worries, hope I didn't come across as having had my cheerio's pissed in - just was trying to answer the original question thoroughly.

The problem with trying to give a flavoring for a longer period is simply that the added flavoring (especially sugary ones) will break down in the soil/medium/reservoir within a number of hours. And what the plant ends up consuming for nutrients isn't really what you originally added - just some constituents and metabolites that bacteria have left behind after consuming what they can first. AFAIK the only way to get a plant to uptake a flavoring with consistency is to have it directly uptake it with the water it consumes.

As to why people do it? I guess some people enjoy the taste of certain things. Vanilla is a flavor I don't think I've seen being touted by any strains that I've seen recently. I could be wrong as I'm not a strain expert by any means. I've done it with coffee (instant coffee mixed into a gallon jug) just because I love coffee almost as much as marijuana. lol
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
I've read somewhere that you can buy some different products to add that will give the buds a variety of different tastes/smell. If it's true what's the name brand of the products or can you do something homemade? I was wondering if vanilla extract would work or any type of cooking extract?
don't add nothing to your plants to make it taste better. personaly i think it make all your weed taste and smell the same, even if its diffrent strains...
 

SableZen

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Try it with a plant - it won't hurt anything. Tastes differ and you won't know until you try it personally.
 

steelersfan

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I use blackstrap mollases and it's definately added some bulk to the buds. My 1st grow I used it and within a week you could notice a difference. This time I tested it on 1 and not the other and got the same results. Mollases works and I think I'll try the vanilla for flavering one 1 of my ladies. I have 2 that are really nice and 1 that I grew like a SOG basically with 2 cola's because I topped it. The little one is the one I'll try the vanilla on because it's going to be done a few weeks before my 2 big girls. I'll keep you updated on what happens. There is nothing wrong with trying something new. In fact I didn't think the mollases was going to work but that's a guaranteed 25% increase or more of buds getting fatter. The 1st grow I only added the mollases the last few weeks of flowering while this grow I've used it after the 1st week of flowering. When growing with CFL's it's always better to try anything to fatten up the buds. My 1st grow I got over 2 z's off 1 plant so I am hoping for 4-5 z's off the 2 big girls and maybe a 1/4 or a little more off the little one.
 

bigtomatofarmer

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Instead of using an additive to enhance the taste, you can also try a strain known for its fruity taste.
I am growing Bubba Kush and the taste and smell are amazingly fruity.
Bubblegum and Blueberry are also very nice.
 

steelersfan

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Instead of using an additive to enhance the taste, you can also try a strain known for its fruity taste.
I am growing Bubba Kush and the taste and smell are amazingly fruity.
Bubblegum and Blueberry are also very nice.

On my next and first hps/mh grow I plan on buying the best feminized seeds I can and will most definately be getting a variety of the best. I plan on getting something with the highest thc, something with a fruity great taste and something that's a pretty color(lol) or a seed with all those qualities would be perfect. I plan on getting 6 different strains and doing 2 strains at a time when I start with the light.
 

imij67

Active Member
does the TX stand for Texas? i live near galveston and was wondering what strains do well out here
 

candylime12

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imij67,
\its best to make your own post with thee questions,
the best thing that you can do is to watch you temps during the day if your planing on planting out doors, If your planning an indoor grow it doesent matter because you control everything.
If your planting out doors get a out door strain.
you can get plants that do well with hot temps, like afgain, or a strain from that temp zone.
It also depends on whare you plant, if you plant in the proper spot you wont have to worrie much about it.
DO some research on the seeds that your going to bye, e-mail the seed co. they can tell you the best seed for your conditions.
good luck
 
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