Project Mayhem - Tyler Durden's Perpetual Grow

tyler.durden said:
Yes, it grew at least 3 times the size in flower from veg. I utilize a double trellis, so scrogging it all to an even canopy wasn't difficult. She gave a nice yield, at least 2 oz per plant. If yours tests clean and is the same cut, I'd love to trade to get her back.
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While ur plants r in veg .. do u ever use topping training on them in ur system?
 
tyler.durden said:
Yes, I top once in veg, and another time right when putting them into the flower rails.
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Back in the day when I did horizontal SCRoG (when we climbed on wooly mammoths to steal street lights for our grows), I did a pretty regimented topping program; I topped the recently rooted plant and cleaned up the side branches until it had 4 and only 4 side branches, in an X pattern when viewed from above. Each of those side branches was allowed to grow until it could be topped to also have 4 branches, all done at the same time. It was then placed in the flower area. The result was zero larf and 16 nice tops every time.
 
tyler.durden said:
Got all the cuttings potted. They all look super healthy, and were packaged so nicely. It was 17f outside, so even though they were overnighted, I was worried. They look a lot better than my last clones, which looked almost dead upon arrival. Can't wait until they're large moms so I can take cuttings, I figure 3-4 weeks. I'm gonna buy 5 more next week, 10 is all I can really support comfortably. Really excited for these genetics, this guy Thomas from BCC is supposed to be one of the best.


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Ur new clones u Using ebb and flow tray?
 
I just bought 6 more clones from BCC, told them not to ship them until Wednesday when it gets back into double digit temps. I'll have 11 strains from them, then I'll send samples of them into Tumi Genomics to test for HLVD. They charge $25 per test and it is a ten test minimum, so this will be my new moms stable if they all test clean -

Blue Dream
GG4
Green Crack (sounds like an STD)
Forlato
Dumpster
Lemon Cherry Gelato
Lemon Mints
RS-11
Cookies N Cream
Chicken N Wafflez
Apple Fritter
 
So I finally decided that I'm going to switch over to LEDs. I wanted to purchase now before the crazy tariffs begin. After many hours of study, I decided on the Viparspectra KS5000 for many reasons. Namely because of the glowing reviews, great components, ability to put the drivers outside the room, and the sheer size of them (40in square). Two of them will just fit over my 8ftx4ft flowering area. While trying to buy them from the Viparspectra site directly, it wouldn't let me put more than two in my cart, no matter what I did. After buying them, I see why... These were the last two available. There is a newer version, the KS5000e, but it is smaller and people are reporting problems with the new driver. I need 3, because when one goes down, I won't have to wait for it to be repaired with no light. I bought the third light from Amazon as an open box, if that one goes down, it will be covered under Viparspectra's 3 year warranty with them thinking I bought it directly from them. With my new strains and lights, I should crush it for significantly less operating costs. We'll see...

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wawa80 said:
That is smart.in case of any power failure u can keep moms vs original stinkbud set up u just clone from ur veg plants .... what u use for medium in those pots ? That doesn't look like hydroton ... is it any medium u can grab in Home Depot?
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I use a good sized UPS for the systems with pumps, so they should be fine in case of a power outage. I keep the moms in pots in case I'd ever have to move them suddenly to another location. I pot the moms with the bottom half consisting of rockwool croutons, top half vermiculite.
 
tyler.durden said:
I use a good sized UPS for the systems with pumps, so they should be fine in case of a power outage. I keep the moms in pots in case I'd ever have to move them suddenly to another location. I pot the moms with the bottom half consisting of rockwool croutons, top half vermiculite.
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I do like this idea. Keep your timers on this circuit too, just so you can maintain your time settings through an outage.
 
All 11 moms are doing well. I just took the first batch of cuttings and stuck them in the aero cloner. Can't wait to start flowering all these award winning breeder's cuts! I also put up my first LED light over the moms, replacing the 250w hps they've always had. At first I put the light close with full intensity, but the ladies were like WTF??? Too much light! So I turned it down to about 60%, and all is good. Gotta great deal on this light, $95 shipped and it does a 3x3. Ima buy another soon as a spare - https://www.bestvaled.com/products/bestva-bat-series-dimmable-led-grow-light-for-your-indoor-grow


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tyler.durden said:
Hey guys. I've been a member here since 2010, and I've learned most of what I know from this site. I started growing in a small one bedroom in Chicago starting in 2010 - I began with RDWC, then switched to flood & drain with great success. I'd throw out my 'hot trash' at 4am in the dumpsters of an adjacent apartment complex - root balls of perlite, vermiculite, and rockwool, fan leaves and stems, empty nute bottles, etc.. I've recently moved just over the border to Indiana, a backward State where they don't even have a medical MJ program. It's funny because they are now surrounded by rec legal States, Illinois, Michigan, etc.. I used to have a small clientele of musicians and DJs that bought all I could grow. Through legalization, I lost over half of them to plummeting weed prices and an overabundane of product. I'm a professional musician, and I drive back to Chicago for most of my gigs, so weed clients now just let me know what they want during the week, and I deliver it to them after my gigs, usually on the weekends. Anyway, I don't have the option of throwing out hot trash anonymously any longer, so I decided to switch up to aero systems to avoid tossing bales of used grow media. Now I just burn the dried plant material in the fire pit late at night, usually while roasting a few s'mores. I bought this house for all cash, money that I've saved from my city grow for the last decade. I was fortunate to meet a master electrician through my brother-in-law (who also renovated my house). This electrician had plenty of experience setting up MJ grow rooms and meth labs, so I didn't worry at all about him setting up mine. They both work for a large drug dealer in the city who prefers to wash his money through real estate purchases, so he always employs the same loyal contractors to rehab properties, they have been with him for decades. The electrician wired my grow room with 8000 watts, more than I could ever use in there because I couldn't fit that many lights. It is nice not to have to run cords from all over the house anymore. I spent most of my savings on this house, but I plan to build it back up with my lucrative music business and the new grow. Should be able to do so since I don't have to worry about rent nor a mortgage payment any longer. Plus, the cost of living here is super cheap. The room isn't that big, about 13ftx7ft with 8ft ceilings. It is enough for a 4x4 veg tent and the rest of the space for flowering and equipment. I have a 12,000 btu window ac unit in there for the summer, and air intake from one window, and exhaust out the other through a large carbon filter. I built my aero/nft systems from designs that Stinkbud and Superstoner came up with, a la the Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks thread. I'm really thankful for their guidance. TLDR, I know. So without further ado, let's go...

Built the first system, and needed to build 3 more. I'm flowering 3 systems under 2 1000w HPS Eye Hortilux bulbs run by 2 quantum ballasts. I needed an extra system clean and ready to go after each harvest, so 4 systems total.

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I had some learning to do as this was a new style of growing for me. The water in this town is trash, it tries to kill every plants it touches. I was used to running sterile at the old place, just using Dutchmaster's Zone in the flowering rezes. This new water uses chloramines which I supplemented with the pool shock I use in my aero cloners. But I got root rot anyway. I tried again using both sodium chloride and/or pool shock. Even with the bleach at astronomical amounts, instant root rot. So I decided to go the bennies route. No go there, either, more root rot. I came to the hypothesis that there was enough chloramines to kill my bennies, but not enough to kill the ungodly amount of pythium from my tap water. So through trial and error I found the solution - I used API's tap water conditioner to neutralize any chlorine and chloramines, with an added bonus of neutralizing heavy metals. I then add my bennies. I only use API's Eco Fix now, I've tried great white, hydroguard, Southern AG's GFF with some success, but nothing works as well and is as easy as Ecofix, which is a super concentrated blend of beneficial bacteria. Both of these API products are meant for aquariums to keep fish and aquarium plants at optimal health, but they are tits for cannabis production, too. And they are super cheap.

First system, third try. Finally success!

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Big ass AC for summertime. I cut out a side panel flap and put in a 6 inch register duct vent with screen over the outlet to the outside spray painted white. Looks very normal from the outside, though no one can see that as it is in my yard.

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Second system built and installed
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3 more weeks and things are looking great. I had to bend my GG4 WAY over as it was too close to the light, and it was shading other plants.

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The second system was looking great, I filled out the canopy well via LST, and the double trellis is great for tucking at different stages. I put all the fan speed controller on this second system right in the middle for easy tweaking of the room's atmosphere - Exhaust fan, room odor fan also on a carbon filter, and the fan for the lights on its own closed air circuit (in from one window and out the other). Very convenient.

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3 more weeks and I put in the third and final system, getting the hang of this now. Got Strawberry Cheesecake, Blue Dream, and GG4 in there -

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Hey Bro ur electrician run 8000 watts set up .. i am planning to run subpanel question i have did u went that route .. and if yes what is size of a breaker on main panel u guys used ?
 
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