Proper growroom temperatures!!!

bigdrty

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I have also been told to try and keep the flowers around 76-78". The logic I was told is that you will get More Dense hard and Compact buds, compared to airy and fluffy buds if you get the temps pretty high... But in my grow room, temps been around 86-90 during the lights on, and 70-68 with them off.... and my babies seem too be ok now, but again this is my 1st grow and I am only in my 3rd week.. so time will only tell..
 

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stinkbudd1

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bigdrty said:
I have also been told to try and keep the flowers around 76-78". The logic I was told is that you will get More Dense hard and Compact buds, compared to airy and fluffy buds if you get the temps pretty high... But in my grow room, temps been around 86-90 during the lights on, and 70-68 with them off.... and my babies seem too be ok now, but again this is my 1st grow and I am only in my 3rd week.. so time will only tell..
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yes that sounds about the same as mine and you seem to be right about the high temps and bud density you and i will both see how it works out the one constant is that during flower everyone seems to agree that your temps should be kept in control around 78-80 so being im a newb i will listen to this logic..hey thanks for the reply good post..peace pot prosperity.
 
Where in the hell am I?

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Oh! I understand. Of course, ya can always do things the wrong way, if ya want. There is a reason that we spend good money on growing bud. Wen ya take the cheapest way out, yer bud is gonnna be the cheapest out there. I do conserve $ in my grow ops, but I do not sacrafice the integrity of the plants environment in the process. Or, at least, I try not to.
 
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Where in the hell am I? said:
Oh! I understand. Of course, ya can always do things the wrong way, if ya want. There is a reason that we spend good money on growing bud. Wen ya take the cheapest way out, yer bud is gonnna be the cheapest out there. I do conserve $ in my grow ops, but I do not sacrafice the integrity of the plants environment in the process. Or, at least, I try not to.
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and dont get me wrong on any of your points my friend when im able to sacrafice the money, safety, time, to be where you are in this field ill go to all the exstremes one needs to be at your level i have owned a 400w hps mh conversion unit and with my limited space and time along with most importantly my family here i did not feel comfortable with that set up as i still have a lot to learn as ive stated at least 10 times here I AM A NEWB truth be told i think most here spend that type of money for one of two reasons to simply brag or to make a return on the investment i want niether im growing to support my smoking it that alone saves me lots...and ive had some very good to outstanding bud grown by friends that did not spend massive amounts of $..but thanks for tour input and as always very well put..my friend peace pot prosperity
 
stinkbudd1

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ok from our responders this is what i get out of the subject there are going to be various ways and means to grow your smoke but the main thing is to keep it consistant we all know that extreme temps are not good but with proper ventilation and co2 you very well can grow in this condition.. im led to believe the optimum temp range to be somewhere between 78-85 with a 10 degree difference in night temp and lights on temp..the one thing that everyone can agree on is that when you are in flower your temp is much more important to keep under control or your yield will suffer..so what did we learn higher temps in veg stage promotes faster growth as long as it is at the consistant level.. and more moderate temps are best for flowering to have a happy and vast harvest..i think i can live with that and i thank you all who gave your thoughts and experiences to this topic..when you help others you also find that at times you can help yourself as well...peace pot prosperity
 
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Bob Smith

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Just to add in my two cents - I'm currently vegging three inch tall clones under a 1000HPS with my rez at 2.0EC, 1500PPM of CO2, and I would never dream of letting my temps get over 85 (constant at 80 right now with no ventilation, simply a sealed room) - don't have the links handy, but although CO2 does allow you to run at slightly increased temps because of the higher metabolic rate(s) of the plant(s), going up to or above 90F is just ludicrous, IMHO, and has been proven to be another "grower's myth" in the past decade.

Of course, I'm in the third group of people who spend tons of money on their setup (out of work and bored), so I can control all these factors very, very well, but high temps are really, really something to avoid.

Good ventilation mitigates them to an extent, but your plants will be stretchier in veg and your buds will be fluffier in flower.

I go overboard on ventilation and temp/humidity control (by my own admission), but that's because of how important I feel it is.
 
stinkbudd1

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Bob Smith said:
Just to add in my two cents - I'm currently vegging three inch tall clones under a 1000HPS with my rez at 2.0EC, 1500PPM of CO2, and I would never dream of letting my temps get over 85 (constant at 80 right now with no ventilation, simply a sealed room) - don't have the links handy, but although CO2 does allow you to run at slightly increased temps because of the higher metabolic rate(s) of the plant(s), going up to or above 90F is just ludicrous, IMHO, and has been proven to be another "grower's myth" in the past decade.

Of course, I'm in the third group of people who spend tons of money on their setup (out of work and bored), so I can control all these factors very, very well, but high temps are really, really something to avoid.

Good ventilation mitigates them to an extent, but your plants will be stretchier in veg and your buds will be fluffier in flower.

I go overboard on ventilation and temp/humidity control (by my own admission), but that's because of how important I feel it is.
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now thats a very good post and fact based as well would like to see more articles posted here on the subject as i did at the start of the thread, it can sometimes be very conflicting one article to the next thats the reason for this post and my unenjoyment checks yes thats what it is runs out in 2 weeks so i may also be in that third group...but thanks for the post +rep to you..how the hell do you keep a 1000watt hps at 80 deg with no ventilation? you are good..ppp
 
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stinkbudd1 said:
now thats a very good post and fact based as well would like to see more articles posted here on the subject as i did at the start of the thread, it can sometimes be very conflicting one article to the next thats the reason for this post and my unenjoyment checks yes thats what it is runs out in 2 weeks so i may also be in that third group...but thanks for the post +rep to you..how the hell do you keep a 1000watt hps at 80 deg with no ventilation? you are good..ppp
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Have my 1000HPS hooked up to it's own 425CFM fan which pulls outside air through it and exhausts it to the outside.

Also have another 425CFM fan in the tent which pulls through a 6" Phresh filter and exhaust to the outside, in case it ever gets to 85 (when my Sentinel kicks my exhaust fans on).

The 170CFM intake fan also kicks on at 85, as per the Sentinel.

The tent runs about 12 degrees over ambient room temp with just the light being cooled, and runs about 6 degrees over with all three fans running constantly (they never are - to my knowledge the two exhaust/intake fans have never turned on).
 
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Bob Smith said:
Have my 1000HPS hooked up to it's own 425CFM fan which pulls outside air through it and exhausts it to the outside.

Also have another 425CFM fan in the tent which pulls through a 6" Phresh filter and exhaust to the outside, in case it ever gets to 85 (when my Sentinel kicks my exhaust fans on).

The 170CFM intake fan also kicks on at 85, as per the Sentinel.

The tent runs about 12 degrees over ambient room temp with just the light being cooled, and runs about 6 degrees over with all three fans running constantly (they never are - to my knowledge the two exhaust/intake fans have never turned on).
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NICE ! you have it all covered
 
gesuskhrist

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you all make some good points but i have been there and back high temps and low and i can honestly say that keeping plants at about 78-83 is the money, yes the plant will still grow very nicely in 90 degrees but there are other factors that effect growth, c02, ventilation etc. if your at 90 with your room the plants will suffer and the amount depends on other factors and strains... to sum it yes 90 is ok with proper vent,c02 etc. even nothing and yes it will grow big and be good, but the plants will be even better at 78-83. im not some know it all, i just had to chime in with personal exp.
 
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weedsLV

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Correct me If I'm wrong I do no I'm close but I think its called the "stomata" thay close at a certain high temp believe high 80s which stunts growth I live in Vegas and I no anything is possible though my friend grew a couple small plants in some crappy dirt in the back yard mid summer up to 115 celsius temps produced about an 8th lol but I no for a fact the guy I get my Meds from runs 8 1000w hids not air-cooled he does have a fat ac unit in the wall but temps reach 90- 92 and that's absolutely no problem he emphasizes keeping co2 at 1500 during lights on to be the most important factor .
 
FootClan

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Where in the hell am I? said:
Oh! I understand. Of course, ya can always do things the wrong way, if ya want. There is a reason that we spend good money on growing bud. Wen ya take the cheapest way out, yer bud is gonnna be the cheapest out there. I do conserve $ in my grow ops, but I do not sacrafice the integrity of the plants environment in the process. Or, at least, I try not to.
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YA GOOD CALL MAN.....just because the plant can live in high temps dosent mean its best for it.......If it was best to have 90 degree temps then all the books and artilces and everyone would be telling you to get your temps into the 90's but thats not the case.....best temp is an no brainer issue...........its safe to say we can put that argument to bed.....If you dont want your plants in the IDEAL temp range then dont worry about it but dont think that you are onto something that no one as thought of yet.....its pretty clear what the bests temps are and any deviasion from that is only going to make things less efficent period....
 
stinkbudd1

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gesuskhrist said:
you all make some good points but i have been there and back high temps and low and i can honestly say that keeping plants at about 78-83 is the money, yes the plant will still grow very nicely in 90 degrees but there are other factors that effect growth, c02, ventilation etc. if your at 90 with your room the plants will suffer and the amount depends on other factors and strains... to sum it yes 90 is ok with proper vent,c02 etc. even nothing and yes it will grow big and be good, but the plants will be even better at 78-83. im not some know it all, i just had to chime in with personal exp.
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Well said and i agree with your post thanks for the comment..
 
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weedsLV said:
Correct me If I'm wrong I do no I'm close but I think its called the "stomata" thay close at a certain high temp believe high 80s which stunts growth I live in Vegas and I no anything is possible though my friend grew a couple small plants in some crappy dirt in the back yard mid summer up to 115 celsius temps produced about an 8th lol but I no for a fact the guy I get my Meds from runs 8 1000w hids not air-cooled he does have a fat ac unit in the wall but temps reach 90- 92 and that's absolutely no problem he emphasizes keeping co2 at 1500 during lights on to be the most important factor .
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Good post as well, as i stated earlier in this thread i to lived in las vegas and my buddy also grew outside in extreem summer temps and he did very well there are a lot of factors the strains etc that are taken into concideration as well .Thanks and Peace
 
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FootClan said:
YA GOOD CALL MAN.....just because the plant can live in high temps dosent mean its best for it.......If it was best to have 90 degree temps then all the books and artilces and everyone would be telling you to get your temps into the 90's but thats not the case.....best temp is an no brainer issue...........its safe to say we can put that argument to bed.....If you dont want your plants in the IDEAL temp range then dont worry about it but dont think that you are onto something that no one as thought of yet.....its pretty clear what the bests temps are and any deviasion from that is only going to make things less efficent period....
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Sorry man i think you missed the point of the thread it was started to let people know that all was not lost just because you cant keep your temps to 70 degree and im sorry to say that it is not and since we have no way or comparing our harvest who' to say that your's would be better then mine because of temp? everytime i harvest and i'm in cali purple headquarters i dont need the purps to sell out my none purp strains before my eyes blink..Thats fact my shit is always dope and i'm no temp control freak mine vary from 78 some days to 85 the next and on occasion i will top 90..If i had an idea temp it would be right at 78 but to me as long as im not constantly way over board im not to concerned...Peace
 
6u66a

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I got a question


i live up north, so right now its real cold, during the day my temperature gets to 62 f, but at night dips to the 50's


how do i fix this?
 
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