Puffdatchronic's White Label Northern Lights Grow Journal

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puffdatchronic

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OK, I just went ahead and read UB's thread on the lack of need of high P foods.

Now he is saying don't use a 1:6:1 ratio high p bloom food. And that N is required throughout the stretch.

ok so like I said my GROW formula is 4:3:6 and my BLOOM is 2:6:3.5 , ok ... so its not a mega high p content ,and also you are required to feed both grow and bloom together ,so first week of flowering with them mixed up the plant is getting a ration of 6:9:9.5 and that is gradually going up to the level of 10:21:18.5

I have also read an experienced biobizzers modification to the grow schedule, in that instead of going up to 4ml per litre of bloom by week 7 making it 12:27:20 , to go 2ml grow and back down to 1 ml bloom making it 10:12: 15.5 .

so really biobizz can not really be considered high P feeding. Though you are still correct in general, just making you aware of my own feeds values.

The only thing I can think of maybe, is if I withheld the bloom food until stretching is over.. then I would maybe not have got the yellow leaf tips, though I am still convinced it was slight nute burn from giving too much Epsom salt.


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Are you suggesting I go with increasing amounts of grow only so by week 5 of flower say I would be giving 3mls of grow ,making the feed 12:9:18 and that is good for the plant along with cal/mag..?
 
eastcoastmo

eastcoastmo

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So if you dont mind me asking Kite, what's the deal with additives like PK 13/14 and others like cyco swell? Are they not needed at all to get the swelling buds? Im very intrigued...

And Puff- glad to hear it bro ;) they cant resist us handsome men hey hahaha
 
Kite High

Kite High

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Mostly marketing hype

Here's the grand secret. Want big and lotsa buds? Keep as many leaves as you can green to chop time. Concentrate on the leaves and the buds will come. Sure as shit.

All a PK boost will do and even that is arguable, is supposedly increase trichome production as being a nutrient stress factor.

My advice is keep as many healthy green leaves as possible. Increase CALMAG K and sulfur weeks 3-one week before chop. Sulfur is the nutrient the cannabinoid synthase machine is fueled with as a simple explanation for that. The floral clusters are mostly calcium and when boosting Cal and Mag you need to boost k so as to not worry wit lockouts. The is why even though not as much N is required late in flower you still need it in quite an amount as Cal will block N and the N and Mag are required to keep photosynthesis at prime and feed growth.

Excess P will hinder most of these processes and is why it is imperative no high P foods unless outdoors.

Now the truth is bloom boosters do nothing but take your money. That's why they market them.
 
Kite High

Kite High

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puffdatchronic said:
OK, I just went ahead and read UB's thread on the lack of need of high P foods.

Now he is saying don't use a 1:6:1 ratio high p bloom food. And that N is required throughout the stretch.

ok so like I said my GROW formula is 4:3:6 and my BLOOM is 2:6:3.5 , ok ... so its not a mega high p content ,and also you are required to feed both grow and bloom together ,so first week of flowering with them mixed up the plant is getting a ration of 6:9:9.5 and that is gradually going up to the level of 10:21:18.5

I have also read an experienced biobizzers modification to the grow schedule, in that instead of going up to 4ml per litre of bloom by week 7 making it 12:27:20 , to go 2ml grow and back down to 1 ml bloom making it 10:12: 15.5 .

so really biobizz can not really be considered high P feeding. Though you are still correct in general, just making you aware of my own feeds values.

The only thing I can think of maybe, is if I withheld the bloom food until stretching is over.. then I would maybe not have got the yellow leaf tips, though I am still convinced it was slight nute burn from giving too much Epsom salt.


OR

Are you suggesting I go with increasing amounts of grow only so by week 5 of flower say I would be giving 3mls of grow ,making the feed 12:9:18 and that is good for the plant along with cal/mag..?
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to compute ratios you add all the n values of the nutes your are using on equal amounts then average the by the number of nutes you are using. Do the same to the P and N values and that is your ratio.

And yes I am advising not to use the bloom at all
 
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puffdatchronic

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Cheers man, damn this rep system ,there should be separate rep kite button lol.

Kite based on your advice I'm thinking of using this bottle of chilli food I got ,it sounds like it may work based on what you have said. I'll type out the details here, what do you think?

Chilli Focus - with added seaweed

Instructions for use- 5ml per litre to young seedlings and plants, 10ml per litre from the onset of fruiting/flowering

NPK - 3 : 1 : 4.4

Analysis %w/v

Nitrogen (n) 2.95

Nitrate Nitrogen 2.80

Ammoniacal Nitrogen 0.15

Phosphorus Pentoxide 0.96

Potassium Oxide 4.41

Calcium Oxide 2.20

Copper Chelated by edta 0.002

Iron chelated by edta 0.040

Manganese chelated by edta 0.010

molybdenum 0.001

zinc chelated by edta 0.0025

Also contains Magnesium, sulphur, boron, cobalt, nickel, humic acid, fulvic acid (no values with these)
 
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smokey bacon

Active Member
Fuk Man Balls to that
I to tell little or no one about growing weed the best security is to tell no one so I keep it very close to my chest
I had to the same kinda thing lately as to the house being way to busy lately with renovations ongoing here; sucks ass man I will however be back up and runnin in a few weeks

Peace out brother
 
Jasper2

Jasper2

Active Member
Sorry to hear your bad news buddy! was looking forward to seeing a white label grow finish but it sucks it had to end. Hope all goes well for ya!
 
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puffdatchronic

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Buddabuilder said:
I know this is fairly old mate .. What was your light set up & soil mix for grow?
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light was 250 watt duel spectrum hps

soil was just some standard potting mix from local garden centre .. I think sphagnum peat based. ..

really gutted I didn't finish this grow, just had a nightmare with nl9 from sagarmatha, had to scrap it after 6 wasted weeks, will definitely be doing wl nl again
 
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soijapapu

New Member
This thread is from 2014, but i was reading it and that shit happened, damn! Im growing same strain as in moment so would have nice to see the full blooming stage. But still, peace!
 
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puffdatchronic

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soijapapu said:
This thread is from 2014, heavily considering it and reading upon it but i was reading it and that shit happened, damn! Im growing same strain as in moment so would have nice to see the full blooming stage. But still, peace!
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I still haven't done it again yet but ive been reading up on it and apparently its very stable and uniform and you wont be dissappointed
 
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soijapapu

New Member
Nice to know, ill be watching for sure. I was thinking to put on my journal aswell, got these white label Nls autos. And one is like 4 days from sprout :)
 
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