Qb’s From China?

Randomblame

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Nice info man, thank you for an elaborate response! But doing like that Will require 4 new drivers, wont it? I have 2 hlg-185h-c1400B now and 1 hlg-240h-c1400b , but I would need the .....-c700b , right?
If you add a 2nd string of COB's to each driver the current would be splitted in half and each string of COB's would run with 700mA. So 4 more for the HLG-185 and 5 more on the HLG-240. Half current means efficiency goes up to +180lm. But you are forced to use the same 5th generation 1212's cuz both strings must have the same voltage. With gen.6 you would see uneven brightness..
You only need new drivers if you want much more light. Light output would stay the same or only get slightly better. But therefor the power draw would be reduced by 20w or so. When you want more light you need to add another driver and more COB's. Another HLG-185 and a few gen.6 Citi's would add another 200w.

Boards are not better, they are easier to use but thats it! Drive your COB's with lower currents and you'll reach the same efficiency level. Citizen claims the 6th generation 1212's reach 200lm/w at 350mA/25°C Tc. But thats only ~12w and you would need a lot of them. I reuse my old COB's and run the low to get better efficiency and have added modern strips to max out the drivers. But I've still the same 9ft² and don't need much more light. My old CXA2540 are running at 175mA or ~5,6w, lol!
 

KonopCh

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I am under "Randomblame crazy efficiency chase" too. I like to wire more COBs to get better efficiency and coverage. I bought 50W and 60W driver from China and they're 91% efficient. Not 94-96% like MW drivers, but hey they only cost 5-6€ each. I had some old Citi 1212 gen 5 and I wire them on 60W driver, so 4 COBs at 15W each or 175 lumens per watt in 3000K 80 CRI. Not bad for 5-6€ driver and 5€ COB, right?
I did the same with two CREE CXB 3590, one is 5000K and one is 3500K and wire them on 50W driver. They're little more efficient than Citis, and I use them for first 20 days of veg. Then I simply turn on outer 4 Citis and I have 110W of veg light, blended with 3000K, 3500K and 5000K in 2x2 tent.

That way I reuse old COBs and didn't need to buy new veg light. And efficiency and coverage is great!!
 

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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Thank you, only 19 pages compared to the ~600 pages topic I tried to read


You are All in on cobs instead? Must admit, I kinda like the idea of 800w cobs too. Managed to pull 300g out of 200w , in a 2x2 tent. So I know that cobs Will work splendidly, but im trying to figure out if the QB’s would be a worthwile upgrade
..have many panels and a few cobs..they both work..get what you want

just saying that it seems to me that cobs may work better..

the rest of the equation has to do with you
 
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