Question on plant potency and harvest time...

Sand4x105

Sand4x105

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Question for anyone that has ever kept track of these things... I have not, but I might next time...

The Set Up:

If the plant in question, has a first show of amber trich's, with swollen calyxes, hairs receded... peak ready to harvest...
This plant 63 days...of 12/12...
So if you take a clone, it should follow this same time frame, with all else being equal ...
It seems, 63 days to harvest in 12/12 my plants reach peak potential...


So my question is this:


What [do you think, or know] the loss % of plant potency, if you took plant seven days early? 14 days early?


Has anyone ever done a check on their own plants, or heard of a study ?

How about if you took it seven days late, how much % wise would it loose ?


Thanks...Sand

So 63 days = 100%

What would 56 days = ?
 
bigbull52

bigbull52

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you will never get 100% potency. even after harvesting, the "fruit" continue to ripen. you could pick at 100%, but it will be past peak by end of drying.
 
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growone

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i have done this with a NL pheno that i liked
ran her 4 times or so with varying times of flower
it's not so much a change in potency as a change in character
 
PersonalJesus

PersonalJesus

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I had to take a plant a week early once... It sucked! The meds barely got me medicated, at all. I don't recommend taking your plant early unless you absolutely have to.
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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bigbull52 said:
you will never get 100% potency. even after harvesting, the "fruit" continue to ripen. you could pick at 100%, but it will be past peak by end of drying.
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For the sake of misinforming the idiots around here better not call them fruit(even though you didn't technically). We'll have another bmeat on our hands. :p
 
AZPsyclops

AZPsyclops

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Taking a plant early gives you great looking smelling and tasting weed that lacks stoniness. You can only get so high off of it no matter how much you smoke and it usually doesn't last long. Its good weed don't get me wrong but you can tell in the good but not great taste and the good but not great high. I just had to take this mystery plant early because it was starting to die.doubleharv.jpgThe plant was harvested at only 6 weeks into flower and turned out pretty damn good but not great. Picture is of smaller plant don't know how it got in there.
 

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bigbull52

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mr2shim said:
For the sake of misinforming the idiots around here better not call them fruit(even though you didn't technically). We'll have another bmeat on our hands. :p
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Not gonna lie, only reason I called it "fruit" is i was reading a Bmeat thread where he explains why they are fruit. lmao

But yes, the "buds" will continue to rippen after being chopped. lol

Good point.
 
Sand4x105

Sand4x105

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bigbull52 said:
Not gonna lie, only reason I called it "fruit" is i was reading a Bmeat thread where he explains why they are fruit. lmao

But yes, the "buds" will continue to rippen after being chopped. lol

Good point.
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I get the rippen on and on, so you are saying, that it gains potency, after it is dead ? I thought only taste was improved after picking...OK...

OK, then I pick it at peak...where it ripens to peak, when I smoke it...
What % will I loose if I pick/harvest it one week earlier ?
 
bigbull52

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Sand4x105 said:
I get the rippen on and on, so you are saying, that it gains potency, after it is dead ? I thought only taste was improved after picking...OK...

OK, then I pick it at peak...where it ripens to peak, when I smoke it...
What % will I loose if I pick/harvest it one week earlier ?
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I dont know the rate at which it losses potency, I just no that as it is drying, the plant is still alive and all its energy is going to produce the beautiful buds. So if you chop one day early, your buds might be perfect for the end of cureing.

But like i said, idk at what rate the potency begins to degrade I just know it continues to rippen/over ripen.
 
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growone

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i was looking at it from the 'never pick early' school, bud is sticky with resin, about a sticky as it will get
after that, i think the potency will plateau with further flowering weeks dialing in feel you want, in as much as you can with a given strain
just my own way of looking at it, may not jibe with other growers
 
Sand4x105

Sand4x105

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So, we read our plants, and do what is supposed to be best... Plants tells me I am ripe, so I harvest. I see the signs- amber trich's, with swollen calyxes, hairs receded... peak ready to harvest...
Is picking a week early a better or worse product ? The only difference I saw, between 56 days, and 63 days
were, at day 63 was the first sign of Amber Trics... The only difference, and I was checking five times a day
the last 10 days...5% or less clear trics the last 10 days...My GF says the buds were shrinking the last few days... IDK...
I think she just wanted to harvest sooner...The buds looked the same to me the last ten days of bud...
Now, the clones of same plant are at day 47...and day 40...and day 33 same mother cloned and put into 12/12 one week apart...


I wonder if it would be worth taking a spear from each plant near day 56 and see if there is a difference, if dried and cured together.


I guess it would only matter to me... Ha....


Thanks...
 
bigbull52

bigbull52

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Definitely would be good.

when the oldest plant is percetly ripened, chop it. and take samples of the others dry them and cure them as you normally would.

Label them well so you know which one was most ripe and least ripe when picked. Examine the amount that ripens after chop. You may notice you chopped with all cloudy trichs, but end up with some amber. its because they continue for a bit. So do like you said, just be sure to be able to differentiate between the ages.
 
wallnutmonkeys

wallnutmonkeys

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Sand4x105 said:
Question for anyone that has ever kept track of these things... I have not, but I might next time...

The Set Up:

If the plant in question, has a first show of amber trich's, with swollen calyxes, hairs receded... peak ready to harvest...
This plant 63 days...of 12/12...
So if you take a clone, it should follow this same time frame, with all else being equal ...
It seems, 63 days to harvest in 12/12 my plants reach peak potential...


So my question is this:


What [do you think, or know] the loss % of plant potency, if you took plant seven days early? 14 days early?


Has anyone ever done a check on their own plants, or heard of a study ?

How about if you took it seven days late, how much % wise would it loose ?


Thanks...Sand

So 63 days = 100%

What would 56 days = ?
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I saw some greenhouse seeds videos a few weeks ago, they have a "grow session" section where they grow some of their different strains and show you the plant at different stages, they also have the plant analysed for their THC% content at different stages.

hope this helps
 
Sand4x105

Sand4x105

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bigbull52 said:
Definitely would be good.

when the oldest plant is percetly ripened, chop it. and take samples of the others dry them and cure them as you normally would.

Label them well so you know which one was most ripe and least ripe when picked. Examine the amount that ripens after chop. You may notice you chopped with all cloudy trichs, but end up with some amber. its because they continue for a bit. So do like you said, just be sure to be able to differentiate between the ages.
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You know when you are stoned, you think of fun plant trials...
Welcome to Sand's world of plant testing.
These plants.... So yes, I have clones, that were put into 12/12 one week apart from the last seven weeks....every Saturday...
So I will do the test, Clones harvested two weeks early, one week early, and on time, and one week late [that will be the hard one-ha]
In about four or five weeks I'll do the test...
Thanks for your ideas...
S
 
bigbull52

bigbull52

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dont cop the entire plant, chop portions of them. that way, incase its a bad idea, you only ruin a branch instead of the entire thing.
 
topfuel29

topfuel29

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been harvesting just as the trichromes are starting to turn amber.
Take a small test bud off one of the flower clusters you think are done. That's the best way to know what you got.
you don't have to chop the whole plant to harvest. Just harvest the flower clusters that are ripe.
 
PaulN'Chuck

PaulN'Chuck

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If the cutting suffers from dryness, or stress over deficiencies or heat I believe the over all potency will decline. I know I have strains from 4 years ago that dont frost up like they used to. She still smells the same but not as many trichomes. Good thing I saved her for breeding that smell/flavor not for her potency.
 
PaulN'Chuck

PaulN'Chuck

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Also, clones should finish a couple days before they did from seed as they are sexually mature through the veg stages. No waiting..
 
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