BeaverHuntr
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Co2 is used in every bar, whether its your local applebees or your home every "Kegerator" need a co2 bottle to operate. Co2 is also use in welding.. Paranoia can be your worst enemy.
quick co2 question
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BeaverHuntr
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This is what I do except I run a tank and regulator.. My controller is plug and play all I have to do is refill and reconnect.
I know its not good to be paranoid but it just seems easier to get propane then to get co2 too, and if its cheaper why not? But i need the generator and the co2 controller and monitor to be 240v 50hz european standards! Do you guys think thats possible to find? Sometimes i wish i lived in america all of the best grow gear runs on 110v it seems!
superstoner1
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the minigen is 120 plug in but it is a dc converter power plug, so you should be able to do something. i agree on getting bottles of co2, it bothered me also. minigen needs to be hung.
think i figured it out now!
superstoner1
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i am sure you have places there like we do for purchasing electonic device cords. here it is radio shack or many others. they should have a 240v to dc converters, you just need to know what dc amps usage is for the device.
JayJammer
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Maybe you should try CO2. I think you'll be surprised.
Such a late reply, but from experience on BOTH ends of CO2 generation, I would vote that using a tank is easier than a generator as far as "right out of the box". Once they are both setup, the co2 burner will be more cost effective and less work (if you go directly to a line). Otherwise, you're going to be buying/refilling propane tanks, or buying/refilling CO2 tanks regardless so in that regard it comes to personal preference.
The BEST part about CO2 tanks is that they do not create ANY heat. The burner is your best friend during winter days and worst enemy during summer heat (completely depending on your setup/scenario). I'll just make a quick list of what I've found to be the pros and cons of each type:
CO2 Tank Pros:
No heat production
Easy to setup/use
Refills readily available for about $20
CO2 Tank Cons:
Refills required
Typically a deposit required for tank (~ $150)
CO2 tanks are not as inconspicuous as a propane tank would be
Burner Pros:
No refills needed (if going directly to gas line)
Refills readily available (About $15)
Less expensive operation costs
Propane Tanks are less conspicuous
Can help heat a colder area during winter moths
Burner Cons:
Creates heat which must handled appropriately
Slightly more involved setup if going directly to gas line.
Tit for tat - they are about the same in setup. You're also going to pay about the same to get into either one off the get-go. $150 for a tank deposit and $100 for a regulator + tank cost would put you about $300 give or take a few bucks and tax. The gas burner generator will cost you roughly the same. It all comes down to personal preference. Some people in colder climates will find use of getting the heat, others in warmer climates might find it costly to provide additional cooling. Don't forget, every degree the burner will raise your temps above your desired threshold, you'll have to cool that degree. So one of the biggest costs, people don't take into consideration is cooling.
Hope this helps!
The BEST part about CO2 tanks is that they do not create ANY heat. The burner is your best friend during winter days and worst enemy during summer heat (completely depending on your setup/scenario). I'll just make a quick list of what I've found to be the pros and cons of each type:
CO2 Tank Pros:
No heat production
Easy to setup/use
Refills readily available for about $20
CO2 Tank Cons:
Refills required
Typically a deposit required for tank (~ $150)
CO2 tanks are not as inconspicuous as a propane tank would be
Burner Pros:
No refills needed (if going directly to gas line)
Refills readily available (About $15)
Less expensive operation costs
Propane Tanks are less conspicuous
Can help heat a colder area during winter moths
Burner Cons:
Creates heat which must handled appropriately
Slightly more involved setup if going directly to gas line.
Tit for tat - they are about the same in setup. You're also going to pay about the same to get into either one off the get-go. $150 for a tank deposit and $100 for a regulator + tank cost would put you about $300 give or take a few bucks and tax. The gas burner generator will cost you roughly the same. It all comes down to personal preference. Some people in colder climates will find use of getting the heat, others in warmer climates might find it costly to provide additional cooling. Don't forget, every degree the burner will raise your temps above your desired threshold, you'll have to cool that degree. So one of the biggest costs, people don't take into consideration is cooling.
Hope this helps!
legallyflying
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you can't kill bugs with 10,000 ppm of co2. that is complete and utter stoner bullshit. I have got my room up to 24,000 and the meter stopped going up. result.... abso-fucking-lutley nothing.
In reality, you need like 750,000 PPM to kill insects. They do that in grain elevators and what not. If you google around there is a research paper on co2 concentrations to kill different insects.
Here is a thread I started awhile ago that is a pretty good in terms of CO2, what it does and how to set it up. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/427575-real-scoop-co2.html
In reality, you need like 750,000 PPM to kill insects. They do that in grain elevators and what not. If you google around there is a research paper on co2 concentrations to kill different insects.
Here is a thread I started awhile ago that is a pretty good in terms of CO2, what it does and how to set it up. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/427575-real-scoop-co2.html