Quick turn around Experiment

by2

by2

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The goal for now is to try and find a strain that flowers in 7-8 weeks or less and that requires minimal veg time to produce.
Flavour and effect has still the highest priority.
I want to find a strain that flowers quickly so I can start running some A and B experiments without waisting too much time.

I lost my hella Jelly cut so now I'm chasing a new strain. Had a freebie Apple Blossom from HBSC that I germinated and she seems like a vigours girl.
Breeder state 45 days, I will see how fast she is and of she has the terps.
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I transplanted the clones yesterday day. They will be vegging for a week before flipping.

Pots: 4L fabric
Medium 50/50% coco/perlite
Irrigation: Tray2grow
Nutrient: greenhouse feeding - Short, Calcium, Boost
Light: Migro 240w
tent:60x120x180

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I top feed them this week with a nutrient mix off 0.75g Calcium and 0.6g off Short. it ends up at 1.1EC and 5.8Ph.
Run off was at 1.2EC and 5.6PH.
Gave them a spray down of neem oil and mixed with rimulgan and a few drop of mint oil.
They are all between 11-13cm in height.
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Try shorten flower schedule to 11/13 or 10/14. It should give you a few days less but you may have to up light levels a bit to not lose yield.

Some people say gas lantern veg (12/12 with one hour of light in the middle of light) makes the plant jump into flower a little faster, havent tried it myself though.
 
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Rocket Soul said:
Try shorten flower schedule to 11/13 or 10/14. It should give you a few days less but you may have to up light levels a bit to not lose yield.

Some people say gas lantern veg (12/12 with one hour of light in the middle of light) makes the plant jump into flower a little faster, havent tried it myself though.
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That is exactly one thing I wanna test. First I just need to find a strain that I reliably can run and know how long it takes and how much she yields.
This time all is pretty basic.
 
you can harvest a plant when its about 75% brown 25% white hairs, you wont get the cbn of a fully finnished plant,
it will get you high, a bit racy, not couchlock like a fully mature plant with the cbn. but you can. if that helps
 
go go kid said:
you can harvest a plant when its about 75% brown 25% white hairs, you wont get the cbn of a fully finnished plant,
it will get you high, a bit racy, not couchlock like a fully mature plant with the cbn. but you can. if that helps
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I probably not consider that a product that I would like to smoke but I heard of cutting early for concentrates.
Not my style but might be to consider in the future.
Im more interested in light and nutrient manipulation to get her to Finnish better and faster.

This run will be straight up vanilla grow. And only next run will I start experimenting. That is if decide to keep her.
I am just running straight minerals this time so next run will be to add some additive.
 
go go kid said:
https://www.growweedeasy.com/how-to-get-to-harvest-as-fast-as-possible Theres some info here that you might like.
what addatives are you talking about?
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This round I'm only using base nutrient. I was planning to add some enzymes or some humid/fluvic acid next run.
I was running the canna line for a few runs and I noticed a big difference when using Rhizotonic on my root production. The thing is that I'm not sure if that translate to better flower. Hence I want to have a quick flowering strain that I can run some experiment with. Lots of research out there already but just want to have some fun.
 
Plant moved in to the flower tent today.
All are between 11-13cm in height, receiving 300-400ppfd at the tops for 18h/6
Lowered the nutrient to 0.5g/l calcium and 0,4g/l short. EC770 PH5.9
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by2 said:
This round I'm only using base nutrient. I was planning to add some enzymes or some humid/fluvic acid next run.
I was running the canna line for a few runs and I noticed a big difference when using Rhizotonic on my root production. The thing is that I'm not sure if that translate to better flower. Hence I want to have a quick flowering strain that I can run some experiment with. Lots of research out there already but just want to have some fun.
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humic / fluvic ok, i would see if i could include seaweed solution too, they work together verry well. and the rizo for root development was ,i thaught was for larger buds, but if you think about it, it allows all the extra nutrients into the plant, so if your useing, humic/fluvic and seaweed solution, then its going to uptake more of it.
that with the 11/13 or 10/14 light hours, then you have a great chance.
the extra p/k from seaweed and humic/fluvic acid will promote exalent flower mass, but seaweed allready has humic acid in it anyway, so not sure how much humic is too much, maybe just add fluvic, i don't know, just a thaught
these new , what was it in the article, gorill glue auto ,saposedly ready in 2 monthes www.northatlanticseed.com and those others in the list are worth experimenting with, don't know if they apeal to you though,
sorry, keep adding bits, been drinking smoking and watching tv, so bits keep coming to me at odd times lol
 
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You need to get your environment dialed in- most of my grows are ready in 8 weeks- no matter what the strain.
I have a dedicated grow room not a tent so it is temp and humidity controlled and the entire room is flooded with light so they get light from top and all sides.
I drop 1/2 hr of light every 2 weeks until harvest.
 
Bud man 43 said:
You need to get your environment dialed in- most of my grows are ready in 8 weeks- no matter what the strain.
I have a dedicated grow room not a tent so it is temp and humidity controlled and the entire room is flooded with light so they get light from top and all sides.
I drop 1/2 hr of light every 2 weeks until harvest.
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what is the effect on dropping the light by the end of the flower? I'm actually doing the opposite by giving them 18h of light in the end right now. Not to have them Finnish faster but to produce more trichomes.
I agree that envoirtment is one of the biggest impacts but I can't control that to much. I have a tent but not to much control of the room it is in. Co2 would be the biggest impact but that is out of hands for me.
 
Dropping the light keeps stimulating the plant to flower- just as in nature.
It definitely speeds up the process.and trichome production.
I often finish at 10/14 or even 9.5/14.5 with good results.
I begin flowing at 11.5/12.5 off
 
go go kid said:
humic / fluvic ok, i would see if i could include seaweed solution too, they work together verry well. and the rizo for root development was ,i thaught was for larger buds, but if you think about it, it allows all the extra nutrients into the plant, so if your useing, humic/fluvic and seaweed solution, then its going to uptake more of it.
that with the 11/13 or 10/14 light hours, then you have a great chance.
the extra p/k from seaweed and humic/fluvic acid will promote exalent flower mass, but seaweed allready has humic acid in it anyway, so not sure how much humic is too much, maybe just add fluvic, i don't know, just a thaught
these new , what was it in the article, gorill glue auto ,saposedly ready in 2 monthes www.northatlanticseed.com and those others in the list are worth experimenting with, don't know if they apeal to you though,
sorry, keep adding bits, been drinking smoking and watching tv, so bits keep coming to me at odd times lol
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I like the rambling so no worries. We are all the same when lit. :bigjoint:
I know that seaweed and fluvic acid used toghter have like a 5x benefit compared when used separate (don't quote me on that).
This is probablythe next thing to add.
A foliar spray application of fluvic, seaweed and folic acid on half or the plant and then compare the result. Minimal effort and easy to keep track.
First I just need to survive a straight run.

I have nothing against Autos but can't take clones so can't run a true A vs B experiment. I need to have a mother plant so I can run same strain over and over again, and add or change 1 parameter every grow and then measure the effect.
 
Bud man 43 said:
Dropping the light keeps stimulating the plant to flower- just as in nature.
It definitely speeds up the process.and trichome production.
I often finish at 10/14 or even 9.5/14.5 with good results.
I begin flowing at 11.5/12.5 off
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Interesting observation. I would love to put the light schedule to the test but can only do 1 schedule each time so it is gonna take a few runs to see the whole picture.
Do you adapt the DLI when reducing the hours?
I have never changed the light schedule in flower before but have heard that Rasta Jeff changes his girls to 18/6 in the end of flower to improve Trichome production and since she is so far in to flower she wont have time to throw nanners.
 
by2 said:
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I have nothing against Autos but can't take clones so can't run a true A vs B experiment. I need to have a mother plant so I can run same strain over and over again, and add or change 1 parameter every grow and then measure the effect.
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thats what i thaught, outside growers here in the uk used or still grow durban poison,because it finnishes early if memory serves. thats a photo. you could do a side by side experiment with that strain
 
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