Quick yellowing 11 days in 12/12

lospsi

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I hate that i am posting problems again, was hopping for only results this time..Ok this thing started a week ago when i fed this plant 1ml/l biogrow, 1ml/l biobloom and a pinch of epsom salts. Then it started going yellow, tops were a little twisted and i haven't seen much growth since... Any ideas? I was told that i was overfeeding the plant. Today after 7 days since the last feed i gave it only water till i saw some runoff. And this is how it looks today...
 

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DannyBlaze2

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1 ml per L is weak! I give my seedlings more than that I use a ppm meter once you learn what ppm you want for what size of plant it gets easier....:lol:
 

BatCave

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She needs nitrogen big time! Hit her with 2 teaspoons grow and 1 tsp bloom and she will work herself out in a few days. 1ml is way too low and when I used those ferts i was using 1.5 tsp of each all the way until week 4 of flower, then just the bloom with bio bud which worked great.
 

smokejoint

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not feeding it enough? That is bs.. The plant looks overall dark green to me. apart from the ligtht green growth at the top ,which can happen at the start of flower .. i think your ok.. maybe slight overfeed.. you didnt need the epsom to week 3. and you could forget the bloom until the flowers are developing ... stick with the 1 ml grow because the lower growth is not pale or yellow.. if it starts to yellow the base then up it to no more than 3 .. try 2 first.
 

DCobeen

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okay her is what i would do. flush her you might have root lock. to much salt buildup causeing th eplant to not get zinc iron and other minerals it needs. this is easy to treat. flush with 2 times water that the pot can hold take your time dont drown her. i would first use air pump to add air to a bucket of water use air stone let it run 1 hr min. do 1 cup at a time have her in a sink or bathtub that has been cleaned with bleach water. one the 2 times has been run threw her takes about 30 min too 1 hr depending on soil. then i would use 1/2 as much of your nutes to 1 gallon of water but give her 1 cup worth. dont use epson salt if you have that in your nutes already. put her back in her room and dont water feed her for 2-4 days when her soil is dry on the top 2 inches but moist at 3 never let her dry out completely that can also cause root lock. if for any reason she gets over dry add 1 cup pure water per 1 gallon pot first let her get moist then add nute water.
Love and peace.
 

DCobeen

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hey raymondpt stop posting stupid stuff this is for helping with growing plants not hair. if i was moderator i would boot you asap.
Love and peace all
 

lospsi

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DannyBlaze & BatCave i really don't think that is nitrogen def, I have been feeding them good through veg, reached 2,03 EC... with explosion of growth, i intend to continue giving veg nutes at least 2 weeks more until the stretch stops(it hasn't begun though yet). The affected leaves are only the upper ones.
 

Ace Yonder

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It isn't nitrogen def. Nitrogen is a mobile element and when it is lacking you will see the LOWEST growth yellowing first, it wouldn't be dark green at the bottom and have light tops. Deficiencies of less mobile elements are the ones that tend to show in new growth. If it is a deficiency it could be a sulfur deficiency as that WOULD cause the upper growth to yellow while leaving lower growth darker green. But IMO it's not nitrogen
 

DCobeen

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It isn't nitrogen def. Nitrogen is a mobile element and when it is lacking you will see the LOWEST growth yellowing first, it wouldn't be dark green at the bottom and have light tops. Deficiencies of less mobile elements are the ones that tend to show in new growth. If it is a deficiency it could be a sulfur deficiency as that WOULD cause the upper growth to yellow while leaving lower growth darker green. But IMO it's not nitrogen
yep that is why i think a flush to make sure roots are not locked and its good to flush anyway. if you want to find out add 1 tbls molasses and 1/2 tsp epson to 1/2 gall on water and feed with it. they 2 should cover any def.
Love and peace
 

DCobeen

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Flush with PH Balanced water and The BEST Black Strap Molasses www.ebay.com/itm/141110606670?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

The last week put about three table spoons per gallon and mix a little 100% grape / orange or whatever 100% juice you prefer. Blend it and pour starting from the root out, soaking the entire top half.
vn i love to use juice. some of my favs are coconut water 100% aloe vera 98% juice the whole time of grow with grandmas molasses.
Love and peace.
 

Ace Yonder

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vn i love to use juice. some of my favs are coconut water 100% aloe vera 98% juice the whole time of grow with grandmas molasses.
Love and peace.
How much coconut water do you use? I was contemplating that but I was worried because it was so high in sodium that even 1 cup/gallon put the ppm of sodium to over the 50ppm threshold where it starts causing lockout. Aloe seems like a great idea due to its surfactant properties, definitely gonna give that a try
 

DCobeen

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How much coconut water do you use? I was contemplating that but I was worried because it was so high in sodium that even 1 cup/gallon put the ppm of sodium to over the 50ppm threshold where it starts causing lockout. Aloe seems like a great idea due to its surfactant properties, definitely gonna give that a try
their is another reason i use cocowater. it feeds a coconut so it can grow and is all nateral. i like to add 2-3 oz too 13-14 oz of my water/tea or whatever im using 3 times a weeks min so far its been 5 times a week. aloe vera will start tuesday day 24 ill add 1/ tsp aloe vera to the 16 bottle. i have a hole in the cap of my bottle with 8 inches of 1/4" air line so i can evenly water my plants. i rotate molasses in 3 times a week. now i water 2-3 times a day since i use air injection soil and my soil is always moist to wet. im trying this to see if i can get the dank/sticky/dense nugs i want. i use grandma's molasses.
love and peace all.
 

lospsi

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Pics from today some of the twisted growth is recovering, the yellow is still there. I can't decide whether is a zinc, sulphur, iron def, or something strain specific.. I forgot to mention my medium which is 33% peat based soil, 33% prebaged compost, 33%perlite and (8 grams) / (12 l soil) dolomite for ph buffer. I was thinking about mollases.. feeding the microbes in the soil maybe the way to treat?
 

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DCobeen

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i see your soil is going to dry. dry soil test( stick finger in soil 2 inches is it totally dry?/ now go 3 inch is it dry?) if so then you just put your plant into decompost in the soil. dotn let your soil go totally dry. top 2 inch should be dryish not dry. then water. what you have to do is water soak slowly the whole plant with water. till runnoff happens then make 1-2 cups nute water mix and water more slowly till you get same amount of runnoff. then your plant will be happier, allot will water till they get 1 gallon of run off. but you have to flush her. and dotn let her dry so much.
love an peace
 

DCobeen

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now its starting to flower if you let her dry too much you will loose allot. dont do that. yeild and quality depends on timing.
 

lospsi

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DCobeen, glad that you here with me, yea i am letting the soil dry a bit, i watered every 7-8 days my plants till i saw run off (or not) maybe because i killed my first 2 seedlings in this grow from overwatering... now every 4-5 days cause they are bigger. I saw her today in natural light, she is not so yellow as she seems in the pics, it's more a lime green than yellow.
Gave her today a slight feeding. 1ml/l biogrow EC=1,35, I am avoiding mollases for now but i am intending to use after week4 of flower
 
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