Rasta Roy's Old Country Grow (simplicity at its finest)

Rasta Roy

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What's up friends?! I'm fortunate enough to work in a wide variety of cannabis conditions but I wanted to start a thread about this one grow in particular that I do. It is unique from the others in that is kept at a mandatory minimum when it comes to fertilization and it is of the cheapest variety. This is the kind of grow you could do without going to a grow store. A simple trip to Lowe's or Home Depot would suffice.

It's crazy how many bloom boosters, and additives people spend money on...if you've ever wondered just how cheap someone can grow pot for...follow this thread. I'll be posting pictures and updates weekly, maybe more frequently.

A quick note...while these plants are fed cheap...the room is not cheap. 1000watt lights, wall mounted fans, co2, and a powerful ac...this room always has ideal conditions. Give em a good room and they'll do the rest most of the time.

So let's get into the details...

10 gallon pots recycled soil that is mostly promix and then over time I have just added more peat moss, perlite, and Dolomite Lime when the soil was becoming too compacted.

Now this part could be difficult depending on your area but hopefully easy this time of year. I get really good locally made compost (made from food scraps, grass, cardboard, woodchips) from a local landscape supplier. Google compost in your area and hopefully you can get a good source! I pay a little over five bucks for a forty pound bag of compost that's better quality than shitty made wiggle worm brand worm castings.

I top dress all the plants with about a two inch layer of that compost. You can see in the picture how rich and black it is.
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This compost is pretty killer and acts as the main fertilizer. Aside from those I only use three things.

The cheaper $7 bottle of Fish Emulsion you can find in any Lowe's or Menards. A $3 bag of Epsom Salts, and unsulphured blackstrap molasses that you can find in any grocery store. I'm partial to the wholesome brand but even the hi-brix plant Molasses will do the trick.
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It's pretty crazy how well this simple fertilization plan works.

The water is from a well so no R/O filter...
The compost really does take care of most of the nutritional needs. I water with the fish emulsion, and molasses when I first repot. Then just plain water mostly. I water with molasses once every three weeks. I water with the Epsom Salts if I see a magnesium deficiency (a common problem in container Gardens), maybe the fish emulsion if I see a need for more nitrogen but I haven't had need for it or the Epsom Salts yet. I'll apply more compost in about a month, maybe sooner if the plants need it.

Here's photos from the initial repot in ten gallon pots...
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Rasta Roy

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Awesome thread count me in. Couple quick questions. From seed? Did you spend much time developing the root mass i.e. transplanting from small containers increasingly bigger?
Nah clones from my mother plants...my cuttings get dipped in aloe gel, put in cubes with a dome over them ...foliar fed fish and Seaweed Fertilizer... They usually root within 5 to 12 days...depending on the strain. Then they get planted in one gallon pots under a t5 florescent for about two weeks. That's all it takes for the root balls to totally fill the one gallon. Their soil is just peat moss, perlite, and compost... Little bit of dolomite. Then they get taken out to that barn and planted into the ten gallons pots.

I've done the gradually move up in pot size before, and its something I've ruled out doing over time. I won't go straight from a solo cup to a twenty gallon tub...lol...but I'll go from a one gallon to a ten gallon... No problem.
 

Rasta Roy

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That's contrary to what I would do but I am sure I don't know everything. It will be interesting to see how well they do.
I definitely don't know everything lol...and there is some science to why you should gradually move up in size. I usually will only do the gradual move up if I have stall for time until a clone gets sent out and it's starting to get root bound though.

My plants always establish roots really quickly, anything smaller than a five gallon pot I'll usually have plants showing signs of rootbound after two weeks (unless they're in smart pots), so that's why I don't do the gradual move up. I don't know if it's cause I keep my soil well aerated or if it's the killer compost but root development has never been an issue fortunately!
 

Rasta Roy

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So this is a different room...done with a little more love...but still pretty simple.

Soil peat moss and perlite and compost that's been recycled about three times now. A little bit of dolomite lime the first time thru but I haven't amended with anything but compost since. Top dressed with kelp and some homemade worm castings. Watered with plain water mostly but molasses every third watering and occasionally a pretty good quality fish hydrolysate from a Michigan company
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Not as cheap as Alaskan Fish Fertilizer but cheaper than Neptune's Harvest.

Than I occasionally throw in like a spoonful of Indonesian Bat Guano per five gallons of water.

All sativas under 1000watt custom made open hoods. I don't remember the name of the metal because you know...bongsmiliebongsmiliebongsmiliebongsmilie
A welder friend made them, the metal they're made with doesn't get hot. You can touch the metal and not burn yourself.

Four weeks into flower.

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Sorry for the shitty picture quality. HID lighting doesn't make for great pictures!
 
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flowersforfree

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So this is a different room...done with a little more love...but still pretty simple.

Soil peat moss and perlite and compost that's been recycled about three times now. A little bit of dolomite lime the first time thru but I haven't amended with anything but compost since. Top dressed with kelp and some homemade worm castings. Watered with plain water mostly but molasses every third watering and occasionally a pretty good quality fish hydrolysate from a Michigan company
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Not as cheap as Alaskan Fish Fertilizer but cheaper than Neptune's Harvest.

Than I occasionally throw in like a spoonful of Indonesian Bat Guano per five gallons of water.

All sativas under 1000watt custom made open hoods. I don't remember the name of the metal because you know...bongsmiliebongsmiliebongsmiliebongsmilie
A welder friend made them, the metal they're made with doesn't get hot. You can touch the metal and not burn yourself.

Four weeks into flower.

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Sorry for the shitty picture quality. HID lighting doesn't make for great pictures!
What week are you in at this point? Looking real good
 

Rasta Roy

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Back to the Super simple room. Last time I watered em I gave em a little bit of Epsom Salts (1/4 a cup per five gallons of water). Took these pics today as the lights were coming on. Plants are a little droopy...I shouldve came out and watered yesterday but I went out with my wife for her birthday instead lol.

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Everything is nice and green up and down, growing nice and strong.

Probably gonna switch to 12/12 next week.
 

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Rasta Roy

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Took all these pictures today. Plants are getting huge! I spread them out so their branches can reach outward and as they take that bush shape they'll create a nice full canopy; meaning little to no spots where light falls through and touches floor. Nothing but green! Watered them with some of the fish fertilizer (1/4 cup per five gallons of water), and molasses (between 1/2 cup and 1/4 cup per five gallons water). Some of them could use a little love (like barely) and I want the nitrogen to boost them up real quick. I'm gonna switch to 12/12 this weekend.
 

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calliandra

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Hey Rasta Roy, great idea for a thread -- I'm going to tag along as it looks like I'm going the same direction, though lazily haha :D

I have just seen the extreme benefits of good compost tea during my last grow and am about to start another (quick auto grow) with recycled soil in which all they'll get is a few ACT drenches. ACT instead of just plain compost topdressing because on the one hand I only have like about 2 kg homemade worm compost at the mo, and on the other, I have seen how the microbes multiply and become really active. So it helps me maximize the benefits of what I have at hand (plus I really enjoy checking the compost tea's progress under the microscope!)

Since my hands are injured at the mo I was thinking of doing this grow in the same 11L (that's about 3 gallons) pots I had just declared as too small for the plants' comfort :rolleyes: LOL
Reading up to here I am now thinking it may be worth the organizational effort to get that second 28L (=7g) pot and grow those 10-weekers in there despite their short life span...
Your lovely plants are definitely screaming at me to! -- so thank you for saving me from myself? :bigjoint:
 

Rasta Roy

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What's good friends?! Sorry I've been a little slack in updating! Here's some pictures I grabbed this afternoon. Plants were in the middle of the dark period (hence the drooped look), I just hopped in for a quick 30 seconds to grab some shots for yall to see. I just switched them to 12/12 yesterday. They need water every four days they all get a gallon to 2 gallons of water (I've got a few varying pot sizes).

The last two feedings before the one yesterday have been with the cheap Alaska Fish Fertilizer. You can see its had them shooting up to the lights and developing nice big green fan leaves and node sites. Stalks are looking nice and round. Smallest stalk is about round as a nickel, biggest one is a little bigger than a quarter. They'll thicken up even more in the next few weeks. I only used 1/4 cup per gallons of water (a little less than 3 tbsp).

The last feeding (yesterday) was with some local fish hydrolysate. Same 1/4 cup per five gallon ratio. Lab tests it npk at 2-3-.4
So comparable to Neptune's Harvest but without the phosphoric acid as a stabilizer. But way cheaper and locally made for me. Probably not as long of shelf life though lol. But it's fresh for now and the bottle will be gone next feeding (I'm feeding 36 plants) I'm making my own as well but it's not ready for a bit. The next few waterings will just be plain water though.

I have a family friend that breeds rabbits so I can get free rabbit manure and will be top dressing all the plants with about half a cup each of some every few weeks. Starting next time I need to water. I suggest you look locally if anyone has any rabbits that'll give you free poop. You can even take the litter!
 

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Vnsmkr

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So this is a different room...done with a little more love...but still pretty simple.

Soil peat moss and perlite and compost that's been recycled about three times now. A little bit of dolomite lime the first time thru but I haven't amended with anything but compost since. Top dressed with kelp and some homemade worm castings. Watered with plain water mostly but molasses every third watering and occasionally a pretty good quality fish hydrolysate from a Michigan company
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Not as cheap as Alaskan Fish Fertilizer but cheaper than Neptune's Harvest.

Than I occasionally throw in like a spoonful of Indonesian Bat Guano per five gallons of water.

All sativas under 1000watt custom made open hoods. I don't remember the name of the metal because you know...bongsmiliebongsmiliebongsmiliebongsmilie
A welder friend made them, the metal they're made with doesn't get hot. You can touch the metal and not burn yourself.

Four weeks into flower.

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Sorry for the shitty picture quality. HID lighting doesn't make for great pictures!
they look great. love the simplicity
 
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