I'm not sure about all this fucking over stuff. I have joined here before but just joined again because of searching g13.hp and seeing this post. I do know that him and Mota worked together for awhile but then split. It was amicable though I think. Those guys were (at least seeds) on lots of sites. Along with Blazing pisteleros, where you can still get a whole line up of aloha white widow Crosse.
Hazeman himself offered up a whole stash of seeds on one site. All you had to do was ask out of a certain list. I've got several strains of his to go through still. I havnt been able to grow for myself for the last 5 years but I'm back at it. I've been a patient the whole time though so luckily I was not without meds. I had some of his strawberry cough and bubba x nycd going at the time i had to close up shop. As plants they were nice but i couldnt finish them out.
Indn did have a give away free policy but I believe Haze came into them through someone else, Mota maybe. I ended up meeting both online and it was because I was researching another give away strain from Mi. Swampys' Revenge. It was butterscotch Hawaiian x the g13 x 88hp. Anyways I have plans on sprouting off seeds for as long as possible. I thought they were ruined from being in a moist basement and some might have but I just recently got 100 sprout rate when a couple of buddies had zero pop up. Crossing fingers ect for enough of these to sprout.
I've got this like up picked out and mostly starting fems and clones to get a good harvest before I decide to start allowing some pollen chucking to go on. This will only be a second time with gems but the last ones were decent enough. I'm actually excited about my freebie fem seeds that in putting them in front. Critical ssh, Afghan, and seedsman white widow. Following up with some death star and strawberry diesel and agent D. "Yeah, diesel does it for me" good meds.
Sorry longer than i thought but wanted to dispel some of the bad stories if I can. MotaRebel and Hazeman had a lot of legit old school genetics on their side. Good for them. I hope others have been still keeping a stash.