Recommended Dosage?

150wHPS said:

yeah i love seeing those big 'uns..... also, isnt 30g on the first flush a BIG mushroom?

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In general yeah, usually the 3 or 4 biggest fruits push 25-30g on the first flush, the rest 4-10g... But this flush was ALL fruits 30+... Probably 15 or 20 of them

The weird thing about growing mushrooms is genetics. Each shroom carries thousands of different sets of genes and each NEW pairing of spores is TWO different sets of DNA... In reality never know what you're going to get which is why cloning is the be all of mycology.

See there's your 50 gram beast

Cap barely open too

I'm thinking about going for 5-6g's dry now. I miss the hardcore psychedelic trips I used to get from LSD, and would like to try and recapture some of that mindspace with this. I do like blazing some good dank while I'm tripping, seems to mellow out the experience, and increase the visuals 10X for me.

Can you guys recommend any better strains for me to try out next time? Was thinking of trying Syzygy and Tak Mountain Cube next, these spores are all coming from Ralphsters. Not sure on the potency or difficulty of growing either, but I would like go for the more potent strains, regardless of difficulty.

Thanks for all the info, you guys are really helpful here.

Smotz said:

I'm thinking about going for 5-6g's dry now. I miss the hardcore psychedelic trips I used to get from LSD, and would like to try and recapture some of that mindspace with this. I do like blazing some good dank while I'm tripping, seems to mellow out the experience, and increase the visuals 10X for me.

Can you guys recommend any better strains for me to try out next time? Was thinking of trying Syzygy and Tak Mountain Cube next, these spores are all coming from Ralphsters. Not sure on the potency or difficulty of growing either, but I would like go for the more potent strains, regardless of difficulty.

Thanks for all the info, you guys are really helpful here.

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The common wisdom is a cube is a cube... Strains really only apply to physical charactersitics and even then, when using multispore it can be a little different.

The only way to get higher potency or bigger yield etc is to clone fruits or mycelium with those traits. That takes isolation and re-cloning etc.

I just grow Amazons because they dry out to look like a general cube

PS: The exception to the rule is Penis Envy. It's harder to grow and yields less but is more potent.

Half a eighth with home grown Golden Teachers will do the trick!

An awe inspiring knock in your combat boots would be something around the conventional dose of 3.5 grams!

...and buddy dont worry, you would have to eat a "man vs. food" type of pot belly fest of mushies to ever think about over dosing. Mushrooms are friendly and the body can easily tolerate it without the bad side effects

daisy2687 said:

The common wisdom is a cube is a cube... Strains really only apply to physical charactersitics and even then, when using multispore it can be a little different.

The only way to get higher potency or bigger yield etc is to clone fruits or mycelium with those traits. That takes isolation and re-cloning etc.

I just grow Amazons because they dry out to look like a general cube

PS: The exception to the rule is Penis Envy. It's harder to grow and yields less but is more potent.

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Thanks, really good info. Looks like I shall have a case of Penis Envy very soon.

ndangerspecimen101 said:

Half a eighth with home grown Golden Teachers will do the trick!

An awe inspiring knock in your combat boots would be something around the conventional dose of 3.5 grams!

...and buddy dont worry, you would have to eat a "man vs. food" type of pot belly fest of mushies to ever think about over dosing. Mushrooms are friendly and the body can easily tolerate it without the bad side effects

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Thanks, that's good to know. I don't have a great deal of experience with shrooms (been in the world of LSD for a long time), so I've never really been sure of how much the body can handle, or if there is a limit. I'll down 3.5-4g's the first time, just to see what it's like, and if thats not enough, I'll increase the amount 1-2g's each time from there until I get to the trip I want to have.

Thanks for all the great responses. You guys are great. I think I might hang out here on Rollitup for awhile, and discuss some Mary Jane Horticulture as well.

Peace out, and many happy trips to you guys.

daisy2687 said:

The common wisdom is a cube is a cube... Strains really only apply to physical charactersitics and even then, when using multispore it can be a little different.

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How is that? Different strains come from different locations are are built to grow in different climates and such.. it would only make sense that they have different ratios of active tryptamines.

Can you back up:

"a cube is a cube... "

Or is this just talk?

shepj said:

How is that? Different strains come from different locations are are built to grow in different climates and such.. it would only make sense that they have different ratios of active tryptamines.

Can you back up:

"a cube is a cube... "

Or is this just talk?

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It's not a technically correct saying but used all the time. Growing conditions and genetics affect potency far much more than the strain does that people just say they all have the same potency (and for our sake, they pretty much do).

You can get in to ratios of psilocybin and psilocyin etc and how much psilocyin oxidizes while drying and on and on...

Which is why people just get down to it and say "a cube is a cube"

daisy2687 said:

It's not a technically correct saying but used all the time. Growing conditions and genetics affect potency far much more than the strain does that people just say they all have the same potency (and for our sake, they pretty much do).

You can get in to ratios of psilocybin and psilocyin etc and how much psilocyin oxidizes while drying and on and on...

Which is why people just get down to it and say "a cube is a cube"

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i have to admit, it seems like the "people" you are refering to definitely seem lazy or undereducated in the matter.

essentially you are saying...

"there ARE genetic differences, one of them IS potency, its VERY complex to determine what causes higher potency in some mushrooms, MOST people dont like to do that much work so they just IGNORE it and SAY 'a cube is a cube'."

dont mean to sound rude here, but your logic is definitely flawed somewhere in there

it's all personal preferance. The first time I tripped i was told to eat a 1/4 so that's what I did i tripped balls. Last time I tripped I grew my own and me and a buddy each ate 14 grams of wet shrooms right off the cake. I was afraid to sell them because i didn't want to kill someone so I said lets just me and you eat em and see what happens. I was told they lose 90% of their weight when dried so I assumed we were eating about a 1/2 1/8 each but I don't think that was accurate. If it was accurate fresh boomers are waaaay more potent than dried ones. I don't believe I have ever been that high in my life and I woul;dn't recommend it. the word I use to describe the experience was we were inebriated. We couldn't even light a cigarette or turn on the fuckin xbox. I grew B+.

150wHPS said:

essentially you are saying...

"there ARE genetic differences, one of them IS potency, its VERY complex to determine what causes higher potency in some mushrooms, MOST people dont like to do that much work so they just IGNORE it and SAY 'a cube is a cube'."

dont mean to sound rude here, but your logic is definitely flawed somewhere in there

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Very nice .

Each strain has different ratios of chemicals, there are no if and/or buts about it.

Saying they are all the same is like saying weed is weed and pills are pills, sounds uneducated.

150wHPS said:

i have to admit, it seems like the "people" you are refering to definitely seem lazy or undereducated in the matter.

essentially you are saying...

"there ARE genetic differences, one of them IS potency, its VERY complex to determine what causes higher potency in some mushrooms, MOST people dont like to do that much work so they just IGNORE it and SAY 'a cube is a cube'."

dont mean to sound rude here, but your logic is definitely flawed somewhere in there

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The 'people' I refer to are any of the collected community I've talked with about cubes... anyway..

There ARE genetic differences however there are thousands if not millions of genetic pairings IN EACH AND EVERY GROW. Assuming you're using 'mulitspore'. One could say different strains have a 'tendency' to be a certain way (size, potency, alkaloids) but that hasnt even been proven because no one has a lab to do it and no commercial companies researching this..

The only way to really know if you're dealing with the GENETICS (not strain) that determine potency or size or ratio is to examine each pairing of spores (which carry 1/2 of the DNA such as sperm and egg) individually and isolate them with cloning techniques..

I havent heard of this done however many people do clone mycelium on to petri dishes with agar. Then they cut out a strong section (heavy rhyzomorphs or vigorous growth etc) and clones that... Then they sector out the strong section.. and repeat. Called isolation

lol, I wanna see you eat 5 gram of the south african Transkei (TK) strain and still say a cube is a cube....

A cube is a cube is a very rough generalization...but comparisons to azuruens and cynanescens is vastly dichotimized for that purpose! I totally understand what you're saying though!

eat an eighth, then wait 4 hours and eat another eighth and then take two hits of acid.
you'll come back just fine, take it from me.

Ended up eating a little over 5g's dry this weekend. Had an extremely nice trip, very euphoric, with medium level visuals, and a really nice chilled out vibe. I wasn't wigging out, running around, and climbing the walls like a madman in an insane asylum, like some hard trips that I've had in the past. Was a really good and positive experience.

My buddy who isn't much of a tripper, and took around 1.5g's, said he felt like he was wacked out on some good moonshine, mixed with a couple shots of pure absinthe. Definitely will be hooking some friends up with these Fungi as well, since I know they are good, and I have far more than I could eat anyway.

These GT's are really excellent shrooms when cultivated correctly, and I would definitely recommend them to anyone, regardless of their psychedelic experience level.

Tranquility ensues when captivated my the mushroom

Smotz said:

These GT's are really excellent shrooms when cultivated correctly, and I would definitely recommend them to anyone, regardless of their psychedelic experience level.

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Due to the dosage and effects you listed, I can safely assume that these would be a good strain for inexperienced trippers (regarding shrooms)?