Refining Opium??

If anyone has seeds and is willing to send some to me. please msg me.
im happy to pay good money for seeds.

it is legal to be sold as dried ornimental poppies. it only becomes illigal one you crush the pods into poppy straw. or if they can proveyou have knowledge or intent to use them for drug use. there are several kinds poppy pods, they do not advertise them as Papaver somniferum, i think thats when it becomes illigal. there are many loop holes.


they say the seeds are legal but how does won get the seeds without planting the pods? they are grown all over arizona for thier seeds for use in begals, and these seeds are from Papaver somniferum and can actully get you hi also.


also in the above section (17) it says "whether produced directly or indirectly by extraction from substances of vegetable origin"


so it clear says by extraction not possesion of the pods themselves.

(22) mentions the word "production" wich is a word not even used in the above sections (17) (19) & (20) so would not pretain to those sections. as 17 clearly states produced directly or indirectly by extraction from substances of vegetable origin




but now that I think about it maybe you are right. i find it strange that fresh pods of Papaver somniferum would be illigal to sell so why would it be cool to sell dried ones? unless fresh ones are cool too?


also isnt is still legal to grow Papaver somniferum for the seeds in your back yard? im pretty sure it is. as long as its not used for drug perposes.


clearly it would be a tough prosecution if you are only useing them for personal use rather than profit.


thanks for the informative post.

Ya most websites are out awaiting this years harvest shipments

Big P said:

it is legal to be sold as dried ornimental poppies. it only becomes illigal one you crush the pods into poppy straw. or if they can proveyou have knowledge or intent to use them for drug use. there are several kinds poppy pods, they do not advertise them as Papaver somniferum, i think thats when it becomes illigal. there are many loop holes.


they say the seeds are legal but how does won get the seeds without planting the pods? they are grown all over arizona for thier seeds for use in begals, and these seeds are from Papaver somniferum and can actully get you hi also.


also in the above section (17) it says "whether produced directly or indirectly by extraction from substances of vegetable origin"


so it clear says by extraction not possesion of the pods themselves.

(22) mentions the word "production" wich is a word not even used in the above sections (17) (19) & (20) so would not pretain to those sections. as 17 clearly states produced directly or indirectly by extraction from substances of vegetable origin




but now that I think about it maybe you are right. i find it strange that fresh pods of Papaver somniferum would be illigal to sell so why would it be cool to sell dried ones? unless fresh ones are cool too?


also isnt is still legal to grow Papaver somniferum for the seeds in your back yard? im pretty sure it is. as long as its not used for drug perposes.


clearly it would be a tough prosecution if you are only useing them for personal use rather than profit.


thanks for the informative post.

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Yeah, i've done a bunch of research on poppy seeds before.
They're 100% legal, until you score them to get the opium inside, or make poppy straw.


Also, I get my seeds from Bouncing Bear, and I remember that early this year, they were charged with "unlawful manufacturing/cultivation" of some of the plants/herbs they sell.
The charges were dropped.

So, if poppy seeds WERE in fact illegal, the charges against BBB wouldn't have been dropped.


(they have really good poppy seeds btw )

The seeds are totally fine, its anything beyond that.The pods being a big one. Obviously no one seems to believe me since its openly done on the internet. Thats fine, but its akin to speeding 26 in a 25 zone. You CAN get pulled over, and you CAN get a ticket, but it is unlikely. I can assure you though, if they found drugs in your vehicle or you pulled a weapon, they would tack on the speeding charge anyway. Again, here are some example:

Taken from Fox

SAN FRANCISCO -- Federal drug agents have arrested a Sacramento man for allegedly selling opium poppy pods on eBay, where he described the morphine-laden pods and seeds as a decoration.

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Taken from DEA's own site

Poppy Straw Opium poppy capsules, poppy heads

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Another seized incident

The ones in San Martin were the illegal kind, DEA agents determined in a test last week. They immediately sought a federal search warrant, which they served between 7 and 8 a.m. Thursday. They served a second search warrant at Campos' home in Watsonville, where he grows a smaller amount of poppies.

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Just to drive home the point about denying their legality (or rather illegality)

Campos said the DEA has a lot of work to do if this poppy strain is illegal. Flower farmers all over California are growing the exact same kind of poppy with no knowledge they are breaking the law, he added.

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"The law is the law," Meyer said. "Ignorance of the law is not a defense."

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At the very least a person with pods, sliced, diced, chopped, dried or fresh (or any variation thereof) could be charged at a minimum with simple possession since they contain both poppy straw, is a precursor to concentrated poppy straw, and they contain morphine, codeine, thebaine, and other alkaloids (I only know of those 3 to be controlled).

Lets hope these pods stay under the radar better not to tell your friends like i have, they all love them,


Im poddin out tonight, like i said im addicted and will start to get severe chills sweats and fatigue here soon if i dont pod up.


Its amazing how tore up you feel then after 1hour of drinking the stuff i feel like million bucks with so much energy, even the next day when i go to work i can still feel it and on those days i tend to kick ass at work too

If I would have known that you could gro your own poppy plants.. I would have never gone to the Methadone clinic.. to kick my habit.

I would have just started growing my own stuff.. screw getting the shit off the streets.

Which again, is also why I grow my own bud.. got tired of dealing with shady people (dealers).. and got tired of them cocking an attitude if I were to call and ask when they're already in a bad mood.. or pissed off about something else.. and then taking it out on me like its my fault.. fuck that shit. I was tired of being in a good mood.. only to be put into a bad mood.. just because I happen to call my dealer while he's/she's upset about something else.. that doesn't even involve me in the first place.. also.. i got tired of dealers saying "yeah.. I'll call ya back in a little bit".. and they end up never calling me back.. which doesn't do anything but piss me off.. and make my anxiety skyrocket more than it already is.. its just not worth the bullshit to have to deal with dealers IMO.

Plus, most the dealers I know.. think that people should have to wait on THEM.. no no no my friend.. I look at it like this.. I'm the one that called you.. to help make YOU some money.. off of what I'm wanting to get from him/her.. so I see it as they should have to wait on ME if anything.

Anyhow, dealers are just too cocky for me to have to deal with. Plus, I'm not a stable person mentally.. and I scare myself when I get REALLY fired up.. and there's not much telling what I would do.. if pushed far enough. So, its probably better for the dealers out there.. that I grow my own buds anyhow.

peace.

Growing them inside will work? What is a good light to use. I have some HID's , HPS and MH. ?? I heard it's not worth it to try indoors...poor yeild?

You could get an excellent yield indoors, the thing is even the BEST poppy pod yield is still small compared to even modest cannabis. It depends how much you want though really. IMHO growing indoors is well worth being able to control exactly how your plants grow. YMMV.

Whats the point really???? Opiates will fuck you in the ass. You will possibly become all torn up and junkified.

is it legal to grow sorry im new to this opium gig

papaver somniferum or opium poppies are 100% legal to grow. I believe when you cut into the pod to harvest the goods, that's the illegal part.

what is the final product like? Like the opium thats produced and is the end product is it good quality O or just shit?

If you make it from poppy pods its kinda shitty, i mean it gets you hi but its a real bitch to make cuz you gotta evaporate like all the water but you cant let it boil so it takes forever, but my buddy likes the shit a lot it does fuck you up but i preffer the tea but i plan to make a batch soon

Just gonna make sure i use a lot of pods this time so its worth the effort, infact i did a little trick to speed up the process

I put the crushed to dust poppy pods in a jar full of everclear and shook it for like 20 min then i took the jars lid off and strained out the grinds. Then i put the jar full of the mix in a pot of water and let the everclear boil away below water's boiling temp at 170 deg f

Then you are left with a goo

Now you take that goo and mix it with enough water to cover the goo up good, then strain the mix with a mesh coffee filter the reusable kind


Now you only have to evaporte a little bit of water instead of alot since you used everclear to extract it

Then you are left with cooked flake opium which you can smoke



The opiates in the pods are water solible and also alcohol solible

But when you use alcahol for the extraction, the alcohol also strips off and absorbs a lot of other unwanted impurities like waxes and oils

This is the reason you do a water extraction after you have already done an alcohol extraction. It removes the final impurities and leaves you only with the water solible good stuff

just out of curiosity how many poppies do you need to get a gram of opium?

anyone ever tried to make their own temple balls?

Whats a temple ball?

hash mixed with opium, sticky black stuff from the nepal region

sounds awsome know anywhere i could get some

err nepal, india......hence im making my own!