Regular over feminized pros and cons new grower

grg61458

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New grower in planning stage. Debating on whether feminize seeds will save money and good outcome. Would like to buy some Afghan strain :?:
 
Yes, they will save you money. I have experience in buying them, and am in the process of making them.

Head on over to the 'Advanced' forum, 'Breeding' subforum and check it out. There are people who will vouch for me in my claims.

You can't go wrong with fem seeds unless you buy from a shady breeder.

Welcome to RIU.

More importantly than seeds will be lights, medium and ventilation.

-spek
 
Pros, 95+% female propagation, great for many growing techniques.

Cons, I've found they are more prone to hermie upon stress (this test was only two strains though, so it isn't valid statistical data).

Buy fem at the onset, and once you get growing, clone.

You can not lose (again, if you're not buying from a shady breeder).

-spek
 
Pros, 95+% female propagation, great for many growing techniques.

Cons, I've found they are more prone to hermie upon stress (this test was only two strains though, so it isn't valid statistical data).

Buy fem at the onset, and once you get growing, clone.

You can not lose (again, if you're not buying from a shady breeder).

-spek

FEMS are no more likely to Hermie than any other seed.. all depends on the parent ..
 
More importantly than seeds will be lights, medium and ventilation.

Not sure if I could agree that those would be more important than genetics.

Subpar genetics = subpar results, no matter how much horsepower you throw at them in the way of lighting, nutes and fresh air
 
There's no real difference except that some feminized seeds are selfed plants. Selfed plants will bring bad recessive traits to the table at times and will lack vigor compared to hybrids. Bad recessive example being hermaphrodism. Another being super weak stems to the point you can't grow the plant (i had this happen to one seed I forget which or whether it was a regular or fem).

Regulars can bring bad recessives to the surface too. Just less likely.

My advice is to seek out information in the seed & strains section of the web site. There are a bunch of good suggestions over there.
 
Been using fems for cpl yrs now. Absolutely love them, not 1 hermie and I abused a cpl of those. LOL
Like them so much I'm starting to make my own..
 
FEMS are no more likely to Hermie than any other seed.. all depends on the parent ..

Any selfed plant is more likely to bring a bad recessive to the surface (statistical objective fact) unless the parent is ultra stable and has no bad recessives (unlikely in this game). Also lack vigor compared to hybridized seeds. But yes, basically.

I think for a new grower with limited space a known fem hybrid would be a good choice. I wouldn't recommend S1's to new growers or those with limited space depending on the seed to produce a good plant that has no issues.

Many feminized seeds have unknown lineage/breeding history. MK Ultra for example, how did he create the feminized version? If he just S1'd a single plant that represented a great example there's a good chance the feminized version will have less vigor and be more likely to produce a bad plant no one wants. Whereas if he went through a large number of seeds found females and shemales representing each side of the cross and then hybridized them carefully ensuring that pollen donating plants aren't harvested for seeds then you'd probably have a good representation of the regular version in feminized form.

I'd go with breeders that tell you how they are doing fems or who at least have good grow reports of their strains.
 
Not sure if I could agree that those would be more important than genetics.

Fine Aim, if you want to get into that fight in the newb section :P

Just kidding. Obviously genetics are crucial, but I was trying to point out to OP that the others are key. It was to my misfortune I worded it incorrectly.

It is absolutely true that genetics are critical in choosing seeds as I've learned, but I tried to point that out by saying don't buy seeds from someone shady.

-spek
 
Any selfed plant is more likely to bring a bad recessive to the surface (statistical objective fact) unless the parent is ultra stable and has no bad recessives (unlikely in this game). Also lack vigor compared to hybridized seeds. But yes, basically.

I've never heard of selfed plants suffering from lackof vigor before only heard of hybrid vigor in f1's
 
Any selfed plant is more likely to bring a bad recessive to the surface (statistical objective fact) unless the parent is ultra stable and has no bad recessives (unlikely in this game). Also lack vigor compared to hybridized seeds. But yes, basically.

This is why I've made my own Colloidal Silver and am now spraying a *VERY* stable strain of both Jack Herer and Chemdawg. Plans are to secure the strains, and then cross-breed them both.

-spek

ps. sorry newb for us taking over your thread. This is advanced cannabis growing ;)
 
Hermied seeds aren't considered feminized. The use of a solution like colloidal silver or other agent to cause female to produce pollen sacks. Then pollen is used to pollenate another female is Fem seeds.
 
Hermied seeds aren't considered feminized. The use of a solution like colloidal silver or other agent to cause female to produce pollen sacks. Then pollen is used to pollenate another female is Fem seeds.

That is 100% factually true. I don't know of another agent other than CS that can do this though. There's another method called "rodelization", but from my research and talking to other growers and breeders I know, it is far more unreliable.

-spek
 
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