Riot seeds

Jogro said:

Excellent question.

The quick answer is that its a real market, even if mostly a black market. There is room for top shelf stuff from the best breeders, intermediate stuff, low end stuff, and scam artists.

Many of the scam artists DO go out of business. . .look what happened to "Doggie's Nuts". . .they charged $200/pack for bunk ceeds and the company is now defunct.

With a constant stream of new growers entering the market, courtesy of rapidly expanding legal MMJ, there are always potential new buyers, and the vast majority of them simply aren't .experienced enough to know what's really outstanding genetics and what isn't. They don't know which breeders have been around for 20 years and made names for themselves. All they know is the names of the "hot" strains at their local dispensary, on the street, or in magazines, and they're attracted to whomever says they can provide them as ceeds.

As a side thing, if Riot can net 3x the price of the competition for his beans (and in some cases he does), he only needs to sell 1/3 as many of them to stay afloat. Cutting out the middlemen (ceed banks) does, at least, offer that one advantage. Riot also has one other advantage in that he's (apparently) shipping from within the USA. That's a risk that most breeders won't take.

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would you like to compile a list, of elite breeders / pollen chuckers and scammers ?

i think some focus should be on these so called elite breeders, lets ask them why their strains are not always so great ?
when some of them charge £10+ a seed
why concentrate all the criticism on the smaller fish , all of these guys are in this to make money, or they would be giving away all the seeds for free
while some may have more integrity than others, who solely is to decide ?
who is the adjudicator of seeds ?

im gonna appologize to you ^
even if i see it as fair game & all.

cause the topic is valid & genuine.

& since i have accounts everywhere , went to check around a few places.

yep.
riot is back in a "seed place" with support from dudes who want to sell beans.

it is about money. only money.
& server fees. & protection of your brand. & pushing product.

you diss riot , all of a sudden you dissing j-b & his crew.
i say bullshit described any other way.

@ 50/50 split on the price you see in the bin (which is the bank norm) + inflated shipping prices = math can add up quick.

you get some people talking shit & profits diminish. sales get sluggish.

even a "community" of bean collectors cant support a site that want to do bigger biz. you have to be palatable to everybody buying & collecting. i'd love to ask gypsy nirvana about one particular fuckwad.

think i just might. cause im curious. & hungry for data.

& lets be very very real ...the other site got dudes in this thread , registering on the weekly , to defend what exactly ?

profits.
unbeknownst or not.
they defending their turf all the way over here (lol) & by proxy their newly added addition (riot).

only a matter of time before hes done...his edge seems to be putting out strains before the next guy. soon people will learn to wait.

bro.
fact... e$ko & bodhi sell many many many beans.

more than the rest combined.
i know for sure. for sure!

you ever notice how the front page of "that site" has sweet seeds all of a sudden as a best seller. most popular. or whatever.

liars!

bman is the #1 seller over there. e$ko close close close behind.

deserved. cause he's (b-man) working always. & dude aint biz inept.
im not a huge fanboy of "the enlightened one" but i run stuff to satisfy myself ...with said gear & even with the riot gear.

anybody who knows me KNOWS i run shit 3x before it hits the trash if im inclined.
drank threw himself under a bus imo. took one for the team. played a weak card.

^ do you know where i got the crack a few of these, one of those, and 2 of them idea.... drank ! you see he does it like this.
he rolls with small samples from various "breeders" only to come to the canna podium, to blab shit, & make opinions.

kinda like me.
or, you for that matter.

^^ i ditched this total F@G (sorry doc) stupidity for cracking 10 to 20 of one strain cause it suits me better after finding a few (from my last run of over 100+ beans) for a decent stable... so far 8 months into my own seeker project.

im finishing tests on sub rosa's sirius lemon haze (slh x aliendawg) ...which im totally not liking on the 2nd run.
3x just hit the lab last week. & when done ...its not staying.

as with subby , i was inclined with "swing kid" in this 3x way.

3x. my rule. an un-fade-able rule.

no way. swing kid. as an S1 IMFO waste of electricity.

& if you go with jogro logic @ $23 a ceed (i think u said) holy shit to get a winner you'll need packs & packs of that shit.

s1 = swing shit , where's the fucking dank drank ?

& those riot grows drank mentioned... i saw them too.
yes the images (tsd fuckwads) cause i still have an active account.

...cause i stay hungry.

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gudkarma said:

im gonna appologize to you ^
even if i see it as fair game & all.

cause the topic is valid & genuine.

& since i have accounts everywhere , went to check around a few places.

yep.
riot is back in a "seed place" with support from dudes who want to sell beans.

it is about money. only money.
& server fees. & protection of your brand. & pushing product.

you diss riot , all of a sudden you dissing j-b & his crew.
i say bullshit described any other way.

@ 50/50 split on the price you see in the bin (which is the bank norm) + inflated shipping prices = math can add up quick.

you get some people talking shit & profits diminish. sales get sluggish.

even a "community" of bean collectors cant support a site that want to do bigger biz. you have to be palatable to everybody buying & collecting. i'd love to ask gypsy nirvana about one particular fuckwad.

think i just might. cause im curious. & hungry for data.

& lets be very very real ...the other site got dudes in this thread , registering on the weekly , to defend what exactly ?

profits.
unbeknownst or not.
they defending their turf all the way over here (lol) & by proxy their newly added addition (riot).

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What are you getting out of all this its like a personal vendetta?

yeah this is getting to be a bit ridiculous we get it you dont like riot seeds stop beating the dead horse HES DEAD.lol

gudkarma said:

well , well.

looks like im gonna do a few days in jail... the result of a lying piece of shit you all know.

im thinking about out-ing an asshole.

its only fair.
love & war.

taaldow you're a fuckwad !

im done with you & you & you & you.

only testing & posting & coordinating for e$kob@r.

no more posts in this thread ever.
dont want your fucking seeds
dont want your fucking clones
dont want fake friendship from internet fuckwads
^ for what im about to catch on your lies , aught to k*ll you lying bitch

swear it.

done & done.

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folk on this thread are calling you a snitch dude, that's rather worrying, it seems your obsession has been going on for sometime
and that temper of yours

sounds like folk been playing you, why do you think that is ?

i really do hope they are liars and trying to tarnish your character, it doesn't get much worse than a snitch

when you was sulking earlier and said you wished you could slap me, did you by any chance visit my thread
and exhaust the free bandwidth from my free Photobucket account, ?

normally folk go there and call me a cunt or something, i like your style lol
i only ask as it seems a little coincidental and its a very easy thing to do

if i am wrong i do apologise

I liked the riot seeds I Bought.
I think you got a few, give em a try GK?


like expensive wine they are high dollar.
Its nice to try the high end stuff.
but I don't drink 200$ bottles of wine ever.
so ill try riot or DrGt fems .

They are good guys who deliver fire IMHO......

nice copy & paste. LOL !

you forget the part where i got ganked $1100 ?

======> of course you did.
======> what happened to that herb taaldow stole from me anyway ? no money , no herb , and a pack of lies.

like selective memory you chose something quite odd to copy & paste from another thread.

looks like you did some TSD research. & nice work doc.
& like your ebonics copy & paste from wiki , it lacks total substance , knowledge of the situation, and entirety.

talk about odd ?

why not post the whole thing !

snitch?

coming from the likes of you & the time-ly-ness of riots new subsection (july) & your introduction to this argument... along with all the other pussys from TSD ...there no need for a faux apology.

hahahahahhahahha.

love to love it.

love to see you posting the half truth.

love to see TSD looking like a bunch of FAGS.

love it !

& love to see you guys supporting a thief on multiple levels... from riot to taaldow it makes me smile.

if you buy riot beans you support a thief.
its not like jb will not get half that $gap plus his bullshit ship costs.
who would order beans from that fag ? are they still in spain ? or back to the UK ?

ow wait 22 year old kid with my credit card & a grown up "man looking" avatar is moving like a shadow through countries ?

if you play at the seed creepo you support thievery.

fact.

the seed depot is good for nothing. jb did whatever he did to protect himself & his $.

fact.

but we'll still email gypsy nirvana to find out about him too.
i mean dont you wanna know what gypsy thinks of JB?
i do !

^ cause we collecting data all day every day the people should know to whom their hard earned $ goes.

& the real snitch, the real fake ass , the biggest fraud on earth is your homegirl taaldow.

did you get the part where she ganked me at xmas time ?
did you get the part where she acts like the herb (which has never been see again) disappears cause this cunt fronts my front ?
did you get the part where jb take private messages i sent to taaldow after she sends me all kinds of shit & posts them ?

fact.

dude violates his own forum rules.
& got your credit card data.

you know what happened to my $1100 ? cause im still not clear on the location of my gap.

though im entirely sure i sent your thieving cunt friend a QP for which i was never paid.

so tell us about my snitchery ! i want to hear all about it.

not half details like your faux ebonics shit ...acting like you know something you dont.

OMG you guys look pathetic.
way.

was too easy to elicit that from you clowns. too ! easy !!
its like im on the cusp of whatever you're thinking. mind reading.

playing checkers when you should be playing chess.

did you know that idiot taaldow was messaging me about "how much i do for her" when i cut that bitch off the first time?

dont you want to post the whole thing?
cause i want you too.

dont be selective => post everything.

riot = thief
taaldow = thief
the seed depot = shit place to buy gear when you got the 'tude ! , hemp depot , & other great sources of gear.

do yourself a favor & tell drank... bang ...gottcha !
slew. 2x already.

whew , im tired of banging you pussies around.

riot , slew.

KAB , next ! cause i copied & selectively saved every fucking lie he's ever told for enumeration later !

waiting.
waiting.
waiting on it.

see you at the seed depot. promise. cause im there already. truer than true. long time ago.

registered several accounts just like you cum swallowers do here !!!!!!

& get this , TSD even changed registration tactics just to thwart gudkarma LOLOLOLOOLLOOLOLLOLLLOOOLLOLLOOLOOLLOLLOLLOL !

& & double get this , the last vestage of hop is on your copy & paste shoulders.
after you busted this weak nut , what's left.

counter punch to the dome piece forthcoming swear it !

spitting chocolate milk all over the place.

takes a NATION of Seed Depot faggots to even get at me ! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWAAAAAH !

cause you can only gank my $ one time !

& now , the rest is up to me ... when i choose !!

all is fair in love & war.
& my bombs go boom !
trust it.

Gud ain't no snitch I can vouch for that.

Gud, your logic is incredibly stupid, and you clearly have mental issues that you should seek therapy for.

You got screwed over, by an individual. Not TSD, not JB, not anyone but the individual you chose to do business with. Open your eyes and realize your vendetta merely makes you look like a fool.

TSD doesn't get involved with personal transactions amongst members, you take those at your own risk. Did you expect their shipping guarantee to apply to personal trades as well in your mental state? You were mistaken.

i dont think gud ask for any guarantee . . . i thought he was asking for moral and mental support as everyone started taking sides . . over his loss

we all have out moments that directly or indirectly are caused by our own decisions . . but i dont know anyone who says ok cool when people turn their backs on ya for being upset at your life not working out

or after the top blows after unregulated pressure builds up go .. oh not for me any more

sucks how it all turned out . . but the starting point was a grift

if i got taken advantage of, id expect some sympathy and empathy from those who say they call me friend . . no shills for me

and gud you know that you attract more bees with honey then vinegar . . not saying you want anything but you cant convince anyone of anything unless they are willing to here it or at least listen . . .

and these rants tend to do more damage to you then to those you talk about . . . . .(aka getting worked up over others opinoin/actions or possible intentions is not a rewarding exercise)

Nobody took sides as it was nobodies business but guds and taadlow's or whatever her name is.

Sure some individual members may have had opinions, but TSD never so much as made a comment, other than to inform them that insults/threats were against the rules. Backing/siding with neither. I can link you to the thread if you'd like.

There were plenty members supporting gud, and members that stated that they had transactions with the taadlow person without a hitch, and that she was very generous. There are two sides to every story and obviously taadlow is a stand up person and unfortunate things DO happen. She has repeatedly stated that she did NOT screw over Gud.

Gud is spouting lies and bullshit. The original thread is there for all to read, unedited, uncensored. Even guds threats/insults.

where i come from we support those we call friends or treat as friends . .it is just the way i am

plain and simple . . . . . support is a vague term it doesn't mean i do whatever my friend wants it means i support him, and that means in my mind being behind the man when he gets taken advantage of, i have heard the whole story, i dont agree with how gud acted but i not gonna sit here and expect him to be perfect human being in the situation at hand . . . .i expect people to be people and when one fucks over another i dont wash my hands and go your issue, i go hey how can i help and if can i do

support is as easy as "hey bud that sucks let me know if i can do anything for ya"

real simple and friendly like