RIU, You chose it, I'm growing it. Fucking Incredible!

HookedOnChronic said:

hey laser loving all the info, curious when ur doin the soil vs hydro side by side

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Well Xmas broke the bank a little bit and I need to get some equipment so I need to start squirrel away some cash. Shouldn't be long, I'm going to get started on cleaning and I'll try to pick up at least one light next week. I have what I need to get them started vegging, but setting up this whole second room will probably cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $2,000 so I need to start accumulating things so it doesn't seem like such a hit.

I'd say it will be starting in January though, I won't let it drag on too long, I need this cold weather to pull it off.

ohhhh well man u gotta have them in the same room to make the comparison fair....in my opinion atleast
u should just throw one in soil and add it to your tent if u have space? or make space if possible? easier then spending 2 grand lol but i do agree with saving money lol always a good idea

honestly though im just thankful your posting a grow for this strain by this company. so thanks and ill smoke one for ya

HookedOnChronic said:

ohhhh well man u gotta have them in the same room to make the comparison fair....in my opinion atleast
u should just throw one in soil and add it to your tent if u have space? or make space if possible? easier then spending 2 grand lol but i do agree with saving money lol always a good idea

honestly though im just thankful your posting a grow for this strain by this company. so thanks and ill smoke one for ya

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The side by side comparison will be in the same room. An 8'x3' room with 2 -600w lights. One 600w light over the hydro tray and one 600w over the soil pots. I couldn't make it any more equal.

I'm really baffled here by the daily drooping...Nobody has any experience with this? It's driving me freakin' crazy, I've played with the watering schedules, everything from 1x/hour to 2x per day and everywhere inbetween. I don't think it's related to watering anymore at all. It happens at the same time everyday and it's consistent as shit. They seem to droop starting about 3/4 of the way through the light cycle and perk up almost immediately at lights on. Very strange, it's like they know the day is coming to an end and start to rest.

Hope you find out what it is. I had no problems like that. I'm in coco and pro mix. Just to keep you going here are some pics of FI at 65 days.

Enjoy

That is somegood looking meds you got going there...

Sorry to hear bout ur girl lettin Kirby in! I have the same rules.

nice tent setup man i just built one myself for 12 bucks.

Thanks on the tent. $12.00 is a pretty sweet deal.

The Kirby vacuum cleaner guy thing is still under my skin man. I'm going to go smoke a bowl and shoot some pool and try to relax, stupidity really makes me question everything.

Anyway, I got some new photo's, still in veg, not to exciting, but they are coming along. The drooping has me concerned still and you can see the one on the far right here is a little droopy a few hours of lights on. I'll try to get a picture of them while droopy, I'm wondering if it's because my reservoir is 59 degrees which is a bit on the cold side. I've always used rockwool which would is a little more forgiving than bare roots in the hydroton. I'm also not adding oxygen to this reservoir so I'm going to get a heating element and good size air pump/air stone combo tomorrow and throw that in there, see if it improves the situation. Neither of these should really be causing this little droopy cycle, but they stand to be addresses and corrected regardless.

wow.. im liking this journal alot soo far.. im jumping on board!! i just checked out kindseed.com too.. not a bad site.. just a bit oricy.. idk.. i cant see payin a $200+ for some seeds.. i forget what other website i was on.. it mighta been bcseed or something like that.. but they had fucking seeds that were $1,000-$3,000!!!!!! thats fucking INSANE!!! i dont care if your rich and got alotta money... $3,000 for 5 female seeds.. thats fucking BULLSHIT!! and i read a forum about some dumbass who actually spent 5 grand there ordering 10 seeds.. and when they came.. they were all crushed.. well i think 1 or 2 seeds were still ok.. but still!!! and they wouldnt give him his money back....... lol. ok.. kjust thought id share that with you guys.. lmao. kk. well plants are lookin great. im goin to go check out ur white widow thread now.

laser, maybe it is strain related
another thought i had is your growing in hydro, so what would cause them to perk up late? underfeeding?
to much water in resovoir?? imma hydro noob so that might sound like a dumb thing to say, soil plants droop when overwatered though i do know that

HookedOnChronic said:

laser, maybe it is strain related
another thought i had is your growing in hydro, so what would cause them to perk up late? underfeeding?
to much water in resovoir?? imma hydro noob so that might sound like a dumb thing to say, soil plants droop when overwatered though i do know that

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It might be strain related, the only other time I've seen this is when someone was growing in soil and they had the pots on the cold concrete floor and it was keeping the roots cold and when the temps would drop a little the plants would droop, but that doesn't seem to be the issue here. I got the res temp up a little bit and they are still doing it. I think these plants just know when their "day cycle" is coming to an end and they droop down prematurely.

I've tried everything with the watering as it was the obvious first place to check, but it didn't help either, so I'm going to oxygenate the water and increase my waterings.

The plants couldn't look healthier when the lights come back on and the day is just starting so I'm not going to freak out over it anymore.

Hey not trying to threadjack.
I am looking at those atmospheric controllers. My portable AC has an electric start and must be reset every time it shuts off, is there anyway to hook that up for cooling?

When you planning on flipping the switch?

dude, when the lights are on the leaves naturally perk up it's called positive topism...then when the plants are getting closer to the night cycle they relax, or rest.....it's completely normal...it's when your plants are always drooping then there is a problem.p.s nice grow btw!

haaaah honestly laser, the genetics are TOO stable for your likings maybe gets an early start on resin production lol

glassblower3000 said:

dude, when the lights are on the leaves naturally perk up it's called positive topism...then when the plants are getting closer to the night cycle they relax, or rest.....it's completely normal...it's when your plants are always drooping then there is a problem.p.s nice grow btw!

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Thanks for the words of encouragement, I've definitely seen that before. This is EXTREME and was just causing me some worry, but I feel confident everything is in order and this plant goes through it very dramatically (probably just due to it's really broad leaves). I'll take a picture right now, and then I'll take another one tomorrow and show you what I mean. One looks like thriving healthy plants and the other looks like plants on the verge of death.

Pretty dramatic, but like I said all seems well. I'll probably take a clone from each plant tonight to put under 12/12 and get these all sexed. Hopefully they root pretty quickly, otherwise I'll just have to go with it. I have no idea how many males I have here, kind of an annoying way to go about this.

laserbrn said:

Thanks for the words of encouragement, I've definitely seen that before. This is EXTREME and was just causing me some worry, but I feel confident everything is in order and this plant goes through it very dramatically (probably just due to it's really broad leaves). I'll take a picture right now, and then I'll take another one tomorrow and show you what I mean. One looks like thriving healthy plants and the other looks like plants on the verge of death.

Pretty dramatic, but like I said all seems well. I'll probably take a clone from each plant tonight to put under 12/12 and get these all sexed. Hopefully they root pretty quickly, otherwise I'll just have to go with it. I have no idea how many males I have here, kind of an annoying way to go about this.

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I forgot to take non-droopy pics, but I just put some up the other day so you should get the idea...here's some pictures about 2 hours before lights out. So the lights are still on, but the day is coming to an end for them.

On another note I believe I'm starting to see some preflowers on a few of the plants...I think I've already spotted a male, but I'm not ready to kill it off just yet. I'm debating if I should clone them to determine sex or just flower them and remove the males and leave 2 clones of each behind. That would be my normal method as I would really only keep the genetics from the best flowering female.

I don't want to not fill my space, but if I get only say 2 females these plants will be too small and if I have 6 females they would be about right. I don't like this growin' with non-fem seeds or clones. It really can gum up the works pretty good. I'll cut clones regardless, but I'm inclined to wait until they perk up tonight.

how often do they droop like that?

laserbrn said:

On another note I believe I'm starting to see some preflowers on a few of the plants...I think I've already spotted a male, but I'm not ready to kill it off just yet.

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Do you have a camera that can take a close picture of the preflower for us? I have not thought to look for preflowers on mine. They are all fem seeds, and one dude would really screw up my whole scenario. This late in the process, thats scary!